The Affliction Of Conspiracy Theorists

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I think this thread should have been titled "The affliction of the easily manipulated into thinking that conspiracies are impossible".
 
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What amazes me about Christians who just believe the official narrative on everything without questioning and mock those who don't... also have to believe that a man lived for three days in a fish, another rose from the dead, 2 were created from mud, blind and lame people were healed, a virgin had a baby, a man killed 10000 with a donkey jawbone, another wrestled with God, another was brought to heaven, the earth was flooded and man survived by building a boat that took him a hundred years, the red sea was parted, manna fell from heaven, a staff turned into a snake, a river turned to blood and Jesus is going to return to earth in power and glory from space.... etc etc etc.
 
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The thermite...debunked....this was published in total hack publication that will publish any random article they rercieve
The explosive charges...debunked...close inspection of video clearly shows that the buildings were not in a state of free fall as the controlled explosion would suggest
The cut beams were proven to have been cut after the event and during clean up
The explosion on the ground floor was from ignited jet fuel that had spilled down into the elevator shaft, burns on the firemen were consistent with jet fuel burns
Pictures of plane wreckage are documented
Footage shows an object the size of a plane hitting the pentagon. A missile would not have taken out rows of light posts
Simply shredding evidence is a much easier way to dispose of evidence than destroying an entire building where passersby could dig thru the rubble to find it.....
Dude you actually believe jet fuel that is highly flammable could travel 100 floors down and cause an explosion on the ground? Doesn't that sound weird....just saying..., the immediate explosion would have burned off at last 60-70% of the jet fuel immediately on impact....

While you disagree....and that is fine....why would you believe in jet fuel travelling that far lol?
 
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The project for a new american century (PNAC) released in the summer of 2000 called for a new pearl harbor to transform america in the global order.... maybe instead of insulting others, take the time to at least read and decide for yourself....you may start asking questions or return to your state of living either way at least read up on this article...it's interesting...

A section from this article on PNAC wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century[h=3]Rebuilding America's Defenses[/h] Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq, a section of Rebuilding America's Defenses entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" became the subject of considerable controversy. The passage suggested that the transformation of American armed forces through "new technologies and operational concepts" was likely to be a long one, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."[SUP][45][/SUP] Journalist John Pilger pointed to this passage when he argued that Bush administration had used the events of September 11 as an opportunity to capitalize on long-desired plans.[SUP][48]

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Dude653

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Dude you actually believe jet fuel that is highly flammable could travel 100 floors down and cause an explosion on the ground? Doesn't that sound weird....just saying..., the immediate explosion would have burned off at last 60-70% of the jet fuel immediately on impact....

While you disagree....and that is fine....why would you believe in jet fuel travelling that far lol?
It had already ignited. ..the blast traveled down the elevator shaft.
 
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Yup. there have been a lot of criminal conspiracies. But if you take a look through this forum, you won't find anything other than the "other" type of conspiracy theories. Watch and see what happens when I ask un2Him to present all that evidence he thinks exists to prove the WTC was not the result of Arab terrorists, but was an inside job. Jump in and share your thoughts.
 
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I think this thread should have been titled "The affliction of the easily manipulated into thinking that conspiracies are impossible".
and yet nobody here has stated conspiracies are impossible. Nobody. What has been suggested is that when evidence proves a conspiracy false, some people refuse to accept that evidence, showing they are not the least bit interested in the facts, only a conspiracy that reinforces their own beliefs.

What are your views on 9/11?
 
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What amazes me about Christians who just believe the official narrative on everything without questioning and mock those who don't... also have to believe that a man lived for three days in a fish, another rose from the dead, 2 were created from mud, blind and lame people were healed, a virgin had a baby, a man killed 10000 with a donkey jawbone, another wrestled with God, another was brought to heaven, the earth was flooded and man survived by building a boat that took him a hundred years, the red sea was parted, manna fell from heaven, a staff turned into a snake, a river turned to blood and Jesus is going to return to earth in power and glory from space.... etc etc etc.
Whether you admit it or not, you are being disingenuous. You chose to write the following words; "... Christians who just believe the official narrative on everything without questioning". I've never just believed the official story without questioning. I studies a thousand pages of evidence regarding the JFK assassination and the 9/11 attacks. I can intelligently state and defend that evidence. I have done so. Read the replies from the conspiracy people. Totally void of intelligent thought or evidence. They need to be called out for stating they are the ones digging for the truth when in fact, they only go to conspiracy sites to reinforce their false beliefs and find ways to deflect from dealing with actual facts.

Remember, the attack on the pentagon happened in a large city during daylight. There was even a C-130 flying over the pentagon that day that reported via radio that it was watching flight 77 as it hit the pentagon. Conspiracy people have no proof of a missile attack. Furthermore, they can't tell you what happened to flight 77 and it's passengers. But they will swear to you they have done endless research to study all the facts. It's preposterous and can only be explained by a mental disorder.
 
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Why you bother being in here anyway? Are you a troll can't imagine any other reason for you to be in this topic. You have already made your choice.

There is far more information supporting this conspiracy. And if you were truly an American you would be outraged not debunking something you clearly don't know.
What did I say? Conspiracy kooks will not post evidence about what they believe. Then there will be a couple other kooks who post "likes", in order to defend a fellow conspiracy nut. And like clockwork, you and they do exactly what was predicted.

Here's your chance. Tell us what you believe happened on 9/11, both at the WTC and at the Pentagon. Post links to any evidence that supports your conspiracy. We'll wait, and wait.....and wait.
 
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The project for a new american century (PNAC) released in the summer of 2000 called for a new pearl harbor to transform america in the global order.... maybe instead of insulting others, take the time to at least read and decide for yourself....you may start asking questions or return to your state of living either way at least read up on this article...it's interesting...

A section from this article on PNAC wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_CenturyRebuilding America's Defenses

Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq, a section of Rebuilding America's Defenses entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" became the subject of considerable controversy. The passage suggested that the transformation of American armed forces through "new technologies and operational concepts" was likely to be a long one, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."[SUP][45][/SUP] Journalist John Pilger pointed to this passage when he argued that Bush administration had used the events of September 11 as an opportunity to capitalize on long-desired plans.[SUP][48]

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And there you go. Taking a statement made about rebuilding our armed forces and suggesting it is somehow tied to 9/11. I saw another conspiracy nut on this forum decided that an earthquake was a sign of the end times. A single earthquake. There are a thousand or more earthquakes each and every day and this person decided one of them was Biblical.

If you are suggesting President Bush ordered or orchestrated 9/11 attacks, post the proof. But you won't because there is no proof and the notion is insane.

What you should do is clearly and concisely post what you believe happened on 9/11. Then allow me to ask you some questions about what you say. Explain how you arrived at your conclusion. Did you look at all the facts and evidence? Go ahead. Tell us what you think happened at the WTC and the Pentagon.
 

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What did I say? Conspiracy kooks will not post evidence about what they believe. Then there will be a couple other kooks who post "likes", in order to defend a fellow conspiracy nut. And like clockwork, you and they do exactly what was predicted.

Here's your chance. Tell us what you believe happened on 9/11, both at the WTC and at the Pentagon. Post links to any evidence that supports your conspiracy. We'll wait, and wait.....and wait.
These conspiracy people are not interested in the truth. They are only interested in Fabrications in propaganda that fit their perverted version of the truth and their preconceived notions. If people are that convenience that 9/11 was an inside job then why is nobody protesting? Why is there not worldwide outrage over this? My question would be if you hate your government enough to think that they would murder thousands of their own citizens, then why are you still here?
 
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and yet nobody here has stated conspiracies are impossible. Nobody. What has been suggested is that when evidence proves a conspiracy false, some people refuse to accept that evidence, showing they are not the least bit interested in the facts, only a conspiracy that reinforces their own beliefs.

What are your views on 9/11?
To tell you the truth I really done know. But the one thing that is weird for me is the crash site in Pennsylvania.
 
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And there you go. Taking a statement made about rebuilding our armed forces and suggesting it is somehow tied to 9/11. I saw another conspiracy nut on this forum decided that an earthquake was a sign of the end times. A single earthquake. There are a thousand or more earthquakes each and every day and this person decided one of them was Biblical.

If you are suggesting President Bush ordered or orchestrated 9/11 attacks, post the proof. But you won't because there is no proof and the notion is insane.

What you should do is clearly and concisely post what you believe happened on 9/11. Then allow me to ask you some questions about what you say. Explain how you arrived at your conclusion. Did you look at all the facts and evidence? Go ahead. Tell us what you think happened at the WTC and the Pentagon.
This has been talked about several times on this site but I will ask you a question...why did Bush have to say "let's not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" my opinion is if he wasn't concerned about that then he would not have mentioned it ....not to mention do you really think passports from hijacker with so called box cutters survived the inferno...that is laughable the fact that a lot of innocent people died is really sad in fact I cry sometimes thinking how cruel others can be to do that to others but the "official" story is full of bull crap. Norad was told to stand down and scramble jets were told as well...is it any wonder that aircraft controllers were threatened and forced to sign a waiver about any info they know on that day....and now they are mysteriously dying...wtc 7 fell and no plane hit that and there were other buildings around the towers which weren't affected.... there is even video of the bbc reporting the collapse 20 MIN ahead of it even collapsing....also video of them saying to "pull" it which is a demolition term... please respond with your opinion on these inconsistencies...
 

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This has been talked about several times on this site but I will ask you a question...why did Bush have to say "let's not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" my opinion is if he wasn't concerned about that then he would not have mentioned it ....not to mention do you really think passports from hijacker with so called box cutters survived the inferno...that is laughable the fact that a lot of innocent people died is really sad in fact I cry sometimes thinking how cruel others can be to do that to others but the "official" story is full of bull crap. Norad was told to stand down and scramble jets were told as well...is it any wonder that aircraft controllers were threatened and forced to sign a waiver about any info they know on that day....and now they are mysteriously dying...wtc 7 fell and no plane hit that and there were other buildings around the towers which weren't affected.... there is even video of the bbc reporting the collapse 20 MIN ahead of it even collapsing....also video of them saying to "pull" it which is a demolition term... please respond with your opinion on these inconsistencies...
The pull commands was an order to evacuate the building
When he said pull it,. This meant to go ahead and begin the evacuation procedure
 

Dude653

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Tower 7 fell due to fire. Other buildings have been documented to collapse due to fire.. if you look at footage of the first Tower, you will see the building bow inward before it falls..., this was due structural beams breaking and pulling the walls inward. .. a controlled demolition does not act in this manner. I'm convinced that believing these ridiculous conspiracy theories is indicative of mental illness
 
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Tower 7 fell due to fire. Other buildings have been documented to collapse due to fire.. if you look at footage of the first Tower, you will see the building bow inward before it falls..., this was due structural beams breaking and pulling the walls inward. .. a controlled demolition does not act in this manner. I'm convinced that believing these ridiculous conspiracy theories is indicative of mental illness
Sad that you would go to that level like Sinnerman and call others who disagree "mentally ill". But then again after debating you on multiple topics you run out of statements and turn to personal attacks. Go ahead I won't call you any names though....

[video=youtube;uLqGRv7CQlc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqGRv7CQlc[/video]

This shows building 7 before collapse

This one shows building 7 before collapse with LIghts on??? If it was an electrical fire as was reported a few times they would have shut down the electric lights...also why is the atf there before it collapses hmm if i remember okc had the same scenario before a boom....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38xxnlf1mT0

How do you explain this card game and countless media foreshadowing ahead of it and they even raided this guy's office because of this card game....

Illuminati card game predicted 9/11 Japan earthquake and World War 3 | Latest News | Breaking UK News & World News Headlines | Daily Star
 

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Tower 7 fell due to fire. Other buildings have been documented to collapse due to fire.. if you look at footage of the first Tower, you will see the building bow inward before it falls..., this was due structural beams breaking and pulling the walls inward. .. a controlled demolition does not act in this manner. I'm convinced that believing these ridiculous conspiracy theories is indicative of mental illness

People would think that since your wife is black, and you are white, that you would be less racist. :/ And "pull it" means DEMOLISH in the language of experts who deal with that. It does NOT mean evacuate the building. WTC7 was ALREADY vacant all day, since the first plane hit the towers..