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thepsalmist

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eternally-gratefull said:
why would I need scripture? I made a statement of fact.

Am I using the words of some pastor, or some man who has been dead for years to prove my points?

I made a comment.

HEROSEFROMTHEDEAD is not my brother.. so your passage does not fit the conversation.
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I only point this out because I have seen you use this exhortation to use scripture quite a few times ... but have noticed that almost all of your posts are scripture free. Speck-plank ... seems to fit.
 
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FreeNChrist

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PeacefulWarrior said:
Is this the part where I'm supposed to "lovingly" call you a liar and a hypocrite?

You replied to one of my posts and asked a direct question. These are not the actions of someone who 'wants nothing to do' with an individual in a conversation.
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Listen, I've actually been cutting you slack because you're obviously clueless to that is going on between people in this thread. Coming into a thread without any knowledge whatsoever of the history of those in it, and telling them how they should and shouldn't be posting, judging them, and then offering up an amateur psychological critic of each person posting based in your limited knowledge......that is being obtuse. And that is the kindest thing I can say about it.
 
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valiant

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
This demonstrates how CC operates. I clearly showed a perfect correlation between Budman's OSAS (or possibly "grace" believer) beliefs and the gnostic's beliefs, and the only responses are denial and silence.
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and I said - recognise the big difference between the two The Gnostics are REJECTING their bodies. They hope to be wholly spiritual emanations. that is NOT what grace believers teach

so far from being perfect your co-relation just shows your ignorance
 
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thepsalmist

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Thanks Magenta, for putting my words into context - I should have done that ... I'd like to learn how to pluck out line quotes like that ... :)
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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FreeNChrist said:
Listen, I've actually been cutting you slack because you're obviously clueless to that is going on between people in this thread. Coming into a thread without any knowledge whatsoever of the history of those in it, and telling them how they should and shouldn't be posting, judging them, and then offering up an amateur psychological critic of each person posting based in your limited knowledge......that is being obtuse. And that is the kindest thing I can say about it.
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I thought I was being open rather than obtuse.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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thepsalmist said:
I only point this out because I have seen you use this exhortation to use scripture quite a few times ... but have noticed that almost all of your posts are scripture free. Speck-plank ... seems to fit.
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You missed my whole point.

so if my pastor tells me you believe something, and I should confront you, because you are a heretic.

Should I go to you and ask you what you believe,

Or take my pastor as gospel truth, and condemn you without even knowing what it is you believe.

Because that is exactly what HEROSEFROMTHEDEAD is doing to myself and others who believe like me..


please, try to verify next time, instead of just assuming.
 
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valiant

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
They don't seem to understand the difference between being perfect and being blameless. Perfection is not required. Faithfulness is.
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lol if I am blameless I am perfect, You just make these things suit yourself
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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eternally-gratefull said:
as usuall, you did not read what I posted did you? all his attacks, and accusatory language, and false allegations before I came into the room and said one word to him meant nothing?

again, NIKKI was making accusatory comments and judging people before I even came in the room.

Nikki did not ask for clarification, He attacked. When he played the herosefromthedead game and started calling us gnostic, He deserved to get confronted.. Especially the way he was acting.
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I don't know what you mean by "as usual, you did not read what I posted..."

Yes, I read.

I (obviously) see what I read though a different lens.

And I'm glad you haven't let this settle yet, eternally-gratefull, because I can now clearly see who is our instigator:

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...ce-saved-always-saved-read-9.html#post2523786

FreeNChrist instigated, your interruption may have added fuel to the fire.

FreeNChrist instigates and continues to do so!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Magenta said:
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1. He used the words of men to confront and condemn me and others
2. He did not use scripture.

and he will continue to be confronted about doing that as long as he continues to do that,

try to look at context. Is context a dirty word around here?
 
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I am sorry for any of the problems I have caused. I am sorry i disrupted the room. Please forgive me. I'm a child trying to learn
 
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eternally-gratefull

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thepsalmist said:
Thanks Magenta, for putting my words into context - I should have done that ... I'd like to learn how to pluck out line quotes like that ... :)
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It is better when one looks at context.. And does not take his words out of context.

Thats what gets people in trouble.
 
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FreeNChrist

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
They don't seem to understand the difference between being perfect and being blameless. Perfection is not required. Faithfulness is.
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"Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matthew 5:48


"If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself." 2 Timothy 2:13
 
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Budman said:
Stop with the "duh" junk. It's childish.

You said to remain saved, one must abstain from sin. Yet, you don't.
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GOD remains faithful when we stumble, or go astray, so perfection is not required. However, if we spurn his grace in continued rebellion, then we have a problem. Abstaining from sin means doing whatever we can to avoid the latter.
 
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valiant said:
and I said - recognise the big difference between the two The Gnostics are REJECTING their bodies. They hope to be wholly spiritual emanations. that is NOT what grace believers teach

so far from being perfect your co-relation just shows your ignorance
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You're just a poser pretending to know what the gnostics believed. Go back to Wikipedia and do some more reading.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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PeacefulWarrior said:
I don't know what you mean by "as usual, you did not read what I posted..."

Yes, I read.

I (obviously) see what I read though a different lens.

And I'm glad you haven't let this settle yet, eternally-gratefull, because I can now clearly see who is our instigator:

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...ce-saved-always-saved-read-9.html#post2523786

FreeNChrist instigated, your interruption may have added fuel to the fire.

FreeNChrist instigates and continues to do so!
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you still did not read what I posted.

I posted Nikki posts in the room, HE STARTED OUT INSTIGATING.

You want to yell at someone, for instigating, thats fine,

but you better be equal.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
1. He used the words of men to confront and condemn me and others
2. He did not use scripture.
and he will continue to be confronted about doing that as long as he continues to do that,
try to look at context. Is context a dirty word around here?
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HeRose uses Scripture often. I have been a witness to this
going on for months now, so I know the context.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Nikki84 said:
I am sorry for any of the problems I have caused. I am sorry i disrupted the room. Please forgive me. I'm a child trying to learn
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then please. Try to learn what people believe,

Ignatius is not going to tell you what I believe, or free believes, or budman believes.

Go to the source.. try not to be like others in here who just want to judge others based on facts which are not true..I was like you at one time, it can be a lonely place.


I praise God someone got in my face..
 
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Nikki84 said:
I am sorry for any of the problems I have caused. I am sorry i disrupted the room. Please forgive me. I'm a child trying to learn
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Brother, you didn't do anything wrong. They provoked your spirit. That's their M/O when they get exposed. Stick around long enough and you'll see.
 
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