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[Nikki84]

I guess its the hierarchy that he might be jealous of. I believe he wants to be a pastor, yet (lol) not qualified to pastor a church. My guess is he's heard this a few times and is now bitter. But really, who knows

 

[coby]

I guess its the hierarchy that he might be jealous of. I believe he wants to be a pastor, yet (lol) not qualified to pastor a church. My guess is he's heard this a few times and is now bitter. But really, who knows

He sounds like a guy in Holland. He wasn't allowed to minister in church, so now he gives lessons and takes people to the street to evangelize and others who had bad experiences in church left church and join him. Although this whole new reformation thing is good, what you see there is that the sheep have no shepherd and they follow weird false teachers, nobody protects them for wolves. Lot of people in Holland hate any form of authority.

 

[Yet]

I guess its the hierarchy that he might be jealous of. I believe he wants to be a pastor, yet (lol) not qualified to pastor a church. My guess is he's heard this a few times and is now bitter. But really, who knows

You judge me falsely. Not suppose to do that. Jesus hated the deeds of the Nicolaitans. The cleric system. Now go read Matt.20:25-28 and then you comment on it. After that check out Matt. 23:8-12 and comment on that.

Im already a poimen: shepherd: elder: pastor. I feed the flock of God His word. Where I get into trouble is when I don't promote the traditions of men that nullify God's word. Mark 7:13 but I ' rather expose it'. Ephesians 5:11

And how dare you call me bitter? That's judging. You won't face the word of God so you accuse me if this and that. Typical diversionary tactic.

A warning. Correction is grievous unto him that forsakes the WAY, and he that despises reproof shall die(spiritually). Proverbs 15:10

A scorner loves not one who reproves him, neither will he listen to the wise. Proverbs 15:12

A scoffer seeks wisdom and finds it not, but knowledge is easy for him who understands. Proverbs 14:6

Poverty and shame will be to him that REFUSES INSTRUCTION, .....Proberbs 13:18

Whoever despises the WORD shall be destroyed.....Proverbs 13:13

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes but he that listens to council is wise. Proverbs 12:15

 

[Crustyone]

Yet, you remind me of the keepers of the law. It has to be done this way or else. It may be technically wrong, but God's love will cover the wrongs of those who are worshiping incorrectly, as long as the love of others, is practiced. The main tenants are still upheld, so lets not nit-pic, and cause dissension.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I guess its the hierarchy that he might be jealous of. I believe he wants to be a pastor, yet (lol) not qualified to pastor a church. My guess is he's heard this a few times and is now bitter. But really, who knows

Anybody can pastor a church. Buy a pastor license for $5 online and tell people what they want to hear.

 

[Persuaded]

Anybody can pastor a church. Buy a pastor license for $5 online and tell people what they want to hear.

Buy a license? Tell people what they want to here?
I have filled the office of pastor for almost 30 years and I have never had a license.
I just preach the Word of God. They can take it or leave it, like it or hate it, accept it or reject it.
That is between them and God.

 

[Yet]

Do y'all mind if I take a break. Please study the scriptures on this. Jesus is coming back for a remnant without spot or blemish. Right now His body is unrecognizable. Again, I'm more than willing to come to your assembly, bring my guitar, give my CDs away for free, and our movie for free, and teach on the very subject of His ecclesia absolutely free of charge. Do not take up an offering for me. I'll refuse it. And no I am not going to hold my breath waiting for an invitation.
My wife and I know that the plan of God in His word for the assembly is very unpopular. That's the apostasy.

 

[Persuaded]

Do y'all mind if I take a break. Please study the scriptures on this. Jesus is coming back for a remnant without spot or blemish. Right now His body is unrecognizable. Again, I'm more than willing to come to your assembly, bring my guitar, give my CDs away for free, and our movie for free, and teach on the very subject of His ecclesia absolutely free of charge. Do not take up an offering for me. I'll refuse it. And no I am not going to hold my breath waiting for an invitation.
My wife and I know that the plan of God in His word for the assembly is very unpopular. That's the apostasy.

You are kidding, right. You really think you would be invited to speak at a church that you have demonized by a pastor that you have demonized.
Now you are welcome to come to the church I am honored to pastor as long as you will behave yourself and not interrupt with your false teaching.

 

[Yet]

You are kidding, right. You really think you would be invited to speak at a church that you have demonized by a pastor that you have demonized.
Now you are welcome to come to the church I am honored to pastor as long as you will behave yourself and not interrupt with your false teaching.

I knew it. You are a self exalted, titled 'pastor'! No wonder you are kicking and screaming at me, resisting His word.

Ok. What am I teaching that is false?

Of course I know I'll never be invited by the apostate 'church'.

Did you not read my thread 'which pastor?' I was believing everything you do at that time and was still kicked out. Here's why. The Holy Spirit descended on the meetings with great power. The pastors got jealous and cast me out.

So there you go. So much for going along to get along. It still didn't work. Then you tell me 'you need to go to church and submit to a pastor. Quit rebelling'. Can you explain that a little?

 

[Gr8grace]

I knew it. You are a self exalted, titled 'pastor'! No wonder you are kicking and screaming at me, resisting His word.

Ok. What am I teaching that is false?

Of course I know I'll never be invited by the apostate 'church'.

Did you not read my thread 'which pastor?' I was believing everything you do at that time and was still kicked out. Here's why. The Holy Spirit descended on the meetings with great power. The pastors got jealous and cast me out.

So there you go. So much for going along to get along. It still didn't work. Then you tell me 'you need to go to church and submit to a pastor. Quit rebelling'. Can you explain that a little?

You seem to teach loss of salvation. That is a blasphemous teaching.

I would rather go to a church and be deceived about the tithing scam and a salaried pastor and receive the consequence of that offence , rather than the consequence of teaching loss of salvation.

If I am deceived about the way our local assembly does things................I am still without spot or blemish in my new creation in Christ, a part of His body,in union with Him............And He WILL gather me and all believers up.

How the local assembly does things is pretty low on the list in my opinion.................our own personal motivations in the day to day life is what is key.

 

[Yet]

I'm talking about the revivals I held on the previous post. Pastors were scared witless. You see they've got to be the big cheese. Anyone else come walking in with the power of God in their life and it drives pastors bananas. It's their pride on display.

Thats why Jesus said 'no exalting yourself above the folks'. Matt. 23, Matt. 20, and 3John. Of course scriptures are irrelevant to you. If you obeyed His word, you'd have to much to give up. Not gonna happen, is it Persuaded? Not in a million years.

You see Persuaded. You want to be the big cheese in your den. You want all eyes on you and get a salary for it. You want to call the shots as God's special agent. You want to minister while others just sit and applaude.
Pastors want their awesome ministries and then deny others their ministries.

I want to give our movie away for free to the brothers and sisters and the pastors won't allow it. They are afraid I'll steal away their people and start another dumb church. NOT. NADA! That's not my plan. I just want to bless the folks and the Pharisees will 'not enter in and they keep those that are trying to enter in from doing so'. Luke 11:52.

You and your ilk have taken the place that rightfully belongs to Christ. You are an antichrist among thousands of antichrists. Taking the place of Jesus like the pope does.

SO TELL ME WHAT FALSE TEACHING AM I TEACHING. We all want to know. Be specific. Just don't throw a slam without backing it up with His holy word. I back my writings with His word.

 

[Yet]

You seem to teach loss of salvation. That is a blasphemous teaching.

I would rather go to a church and be deceived about the tithing scam and a salaried pastor and receive the consequence of that offence , rather than the consequence of teaching loss of salvation.

If I am deceived about the way our local assembly does things................I am still without spot or blemish in my new creation in Christ, a part of His body,in union with Him............And He WILL gather me and all believers up.

How the local assembly does things is pretty low on the list in my opinion.................our own personal motivations in the day to day life is what is key.

Well then you explain to me Revelation 21:8, where it clearly says that ALL LIARS will have their part in Gehenna which is the second death.

If you are correct about OSAS, then pastors that lie to maintain their positions and financial extortion, were never saved in the first place. Either way, it's not a pretty picture is it?

 

[Gr8grace]

I'm talking about the revivals I held on the previous post. Pastors were scared witless. You see they've got to be the big cheese. Anyone else come walking in with the power of God in their life and it drives pastors bananas. It's their pride on display.

Thats why Jesus said 'no exalting yourself above the folks'. Matt. 23, Matt. 20, and 3John. Of course scriptures are irrelevant to you. If you obeyed His word, you'd have to much to give up. Not gonna happen, is it Persuaded? Not in a million years.

You see Persuaded. You want to be the big cheese in your den. You want all eyes on you and get a salary for it. You want to call the shots as God's special agent. You want to minister while others just sit and applaude.
Pastors want their awesome ministries and then deny others their ministries.

I want to give our movie away for free to the brothers and sisters and the pastors won't allow it. They are afraid I'll steal away their people and start another dumb church. NOT. NADA! That's not my plan. I just want to bless the folks and the Pharisees will 'not enter in and they keep those that are trying to enter in from doing so'. Luke 11:52.

You and your ilk have taken the place that rightfully belongs to Christ. You are an antichrist among thousands of antichrists. Taking the place of Jesus like the pope does.

SO TELL ME WHAT FALSE TEACHING AM I TEACHING. We all want to know. Be specific. Just don't throw a slam without backing it up with His holy word. I back my writings with His word.

Do you believe that a believer can lose their salvation?

Yet, you make statements like "Christ is coming for a church that is without spot or blemish."

And then make it seem that these folks that believe they can take an offering for their teaching are WITH spot and blemish and will miss out on salvation.

Is this what you believe? If it is, I would go back to start and start over.

Your beef with pastors is the least of your problems if you think salvation can be lost.......for any reason.

 

[Yet]

I responded to you. Check your threads.
You are the one with unwarranted accurations when you condem pastors and churches you do not know as being evil.
Every thread and post with your name on it is the same.
You have been so mistreated. Every church and pastor are evil. You are the only person who knows the truth.
All who disagree with you are foolish and dumb, don't understand, are not following the Holy Spirit, are false teachers.
As I have said before, I know there are evil pastors and churches, but when you say all or most are evil, that is a lie.
You are just as evil as those you condem when you lie about pastors and churches you do not know.

I checked this thread for your response to my teaching on the scriptures in question. I cannot find your post.

Ive always maintained that if men are exalting themselves with titles and tithes, they are gong against the word of God. That does NOT make me evil.
And you have not answered these scriptures. I'll keep searching for your input. Do you really believe I personally inserted these chapters in some covert way just to drive you berserk? Please answer.

You said something about Proverbs 14, but that was it.

 

[Gr8grace]

Well then you explain to me Revelation 21:8, where it clearly says that ALL LIARS will have their part in Gehenna which is the second death.

If you are correct about OSAS, then pastors that lie to maintain their positions and financial extortion, were never saved in the first place. Either way, it's not a pretty picture is it?

I am a liar......in my flesh. My flesh does not go to the eternal state. My identity is IN Christ now that I am born again.

I am a liar in my flesh, but my true identity is in Christ.

Anyone who has not been born again is identified as a sinner. We have identities in Christ. Even though our overt appearance is still fleshly and still sins.

I still overtly lie, so do you. But we are identified as in Christ.

 

[Yet]

I am a liar......in my flesh. My flesh does not go to the eternal state. My identity is IN Christ now that I am born again.

I am a liar in my flesh, but my true identity is in Christ.

Anyone who has not been born again is identified as a sinner. We have identities in Christ. Even though our overt appearance is still fleshly and still sins.

I still overtly lie, so do you. But we are identified as in Christ.

So you are a practicing liar, and you know it? I heard that Hitler made a confession of faith when he was young.

He did a few overt things as well. Brother Adolf. Thank God he got saved first.

So wolves and hirelings will make it as long as they got saved first.

 

[Nikki84]

I knew it. You are a self exalted, titled 'pastor'! No wonder you are kicking and screaming at me, resisting His word.

Ok. What am I teaching that is false?

Of course I know I'll never be invited by the apostate 'church'.

Did you not read my thread 'which pastor?' I was believing everything you do at that time and was still kicked out. Here's why. The Holy Spirit descended on the meetings with great power. The pastors got jealous and cast me out.

So there you go. So much for going along to get along. It still didn't work. Then you tell me 'you need to go to church and submit to a pastor. Quit rebelling'. Can you explain that a little?

There is no excuse for this attack on the clergy, especially one who is paying you the attention you so crave! Disgusting

 

[Nikki84]

I checked this thread for your response to my teaching on the scriptures in question. I cannot find your post.

Ive always maintained that if men are exalting themselves with titles and tithes, they are gong against the word of God. That does NOT make me evil.
And you have not answered these scriptures. I'll keep searching for your input. Do you really believe I personally inserted these chapters in some covert way just to drive you berserk? Please answer.

You said something about Proverbs 14, but that was it.

Just how on God's green earth do you know they are exalting themselves?????

 

[Yet]

There is no excuse for this attack on the clergy, especially one who is paying you the attention you so crave! Disgusting

You judge me falsely. Not suppose to do that. I do not crave the attention of anyone. But I do desire to rescue sheep out of the mouths of wolves, Ezekiel 34:10...don't you? And if not, why not? Did you read my discourse on the said chapters?

 

[Nikki84]

I checked this thread for your response to my teaching on the scriptures in question. I cannot find your post.

Ive always maintained that if men are exalting themselves with titles and tithes, they are gong against the word of God. That does NOT make me evil.
And you have not answered these scriptures. I'll keep searching for your input. Do you really believe I personally inserted these chapters in some covert way just to drive you berserk? Please answer.

You said something about Proverbs 14, but that was it.

I think I might get it now. The obsession with titles is the issue and you want one. Pastor doesn't fit, movie director doesn't fit, your just lookin for a title