Paster Women?

[KJV1611]

That's an interpretation to make it match with the opposite texts, that everyone could prophesy and Philip had 4 prophesying daughters.

Btw it says:
*Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.

Not: Let a woman prophecy in silence.
Of course you have to shut up when someone is preaching.

Does the bible say a woman can prophesy in the church?

 

[KJV1611]

1 Timothy 3:2 KJV
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

I have had two wives, so can I be a bishop or not?

 

[Demi777]

PROPHESYING WOMEN.

Acts 21:7-9.​

"Philip, the evangelist, who was one of the seven…had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy." All the seven were "men of good report, full of the Spirit and of wisdom" (Act 6:3), and yet Philip did not restrain his four daughters from prophesying! The wisdom of those days, when the language of the Holy Ghost was so fully understood, had not led men to quench the Spirit, or to despise prophesying
then here in 1 Cor 11:5
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

 

[coby]

Does the bible say a woman can prophesy in the church?

Yes I think a woman is also one of the all of you, don't you think?

*How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.*27*If anyone speaks in a tongue,*let there betwo or at the most three,*each*in turn, and let one interpret.*28*But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God.29*Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.*30*But if*anything*is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent.*31*For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged.


Then all of a sudden you get that text that she has to shut up which is in the law. But it isn't in the law, so he must be quoting the men that say that, to show that women may also prophesy. It was only in the Jewish man made law that the pharisees had. That's why he says: did it only reach you (men)?

 

[KJV1611]

PROPHESYING WOMEN.

Acts 21:7-9.​

"Philip, the evangelist, who was one of the seven…had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy." All the seven were "men of good report, full of the Spirit and of wisdom" (Act 6:3), and yet Philip did not restrain his four daughters from prophesying! The wisdom of those days, when the language of the Holy Ghost was so fully understood, had not led men to quench the Spirit, or to despise prophesying
then here in 1 Cor 11:5
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

Women have never been restricted from prophesying, they're only restricted from doing it in the church. It's just te way God wants it done.

 

[Demi777]

ok KJV Paul talks about women in church which he says they should cover their hair. God bless

 

[KJV1611]

Yes I think a woman is also one of the all of you, don't you think?

*How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.*27*If anyone speaks in a tongue,*let there betwo or at the most three,*each*in turn, and let one interpret.*28*But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God.29*Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.*30*But if*anything*is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent.*31*For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged.


Then all of a sudden you get that text that she has to shut up which is in the law. But it isn't in the law, so he must be quoting the men that say that, to show that women may also prophesy. It was only in the Jewish man made law that the pharisees had. That's why he says: did it only reach you (men)?

I agree women can prophesy but where does the bible say they can prophesy in front of the church?

 

[coby]

Women have never been restricted from prophesying, they're only restricted from doing it in the church. It's just te way God wants it done.

If they do it in private at home, how can all learn and be encouraged? What's the use of prophesy if noone may hear it?

 

[KJV1611]

If they do it in private at home, how can all learn and be encouraged? What's the use of prophesy if noone may hear it?

They're not rstricted to just prophesying in the home, just in the church. They prophesy everywhere else.

 

[Demi777]

i just gave you the verse that he wrote TO A CHURCH.

 

[Demi777]

If they do it in private at home, how can all learn and be encouraged? What's the use of prophesy if noone may hear it?

I guess thats the thing that we women cannot understand. I guess our prophesies get beemed to the mind of a man in church then so he may speak it because our voice doesnt bring it across the same way.

 

[KJV1611]

i just gave you the verse that he wrote TO A CHURCH.

That wasn't a church that was Philip the evangelist's house.

 

[Miri]

Acts 2:17-18 NKJV
[17] 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My
Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men
shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. [18] And on My menservants
and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.



Joel 2:28-29 NKJV
[28] "And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams,
Your young men shall see visions. [29] And also on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days.

 

[Demi777]

whatever it was a church in Corinth and hes talking to a congregation/church. im done debating. god bless you

 

[Miri]

That wasn't a church that was Philip the evangelist's house.

The church is the people of God, not a building. "The early church" met in whatever building
was available to them, in the temple in homes etc. They also met daily.

 

[KJV1611]

Acts 2:17-18 NKJV
[17] 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My
Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men
shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. [18] And on My menservants
and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.



Joel 2:28-29 NKJV
[28] "And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams,
Your young men shall see visions. [29] And also on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days.

Women have the Holy Spirit and can prophesy no doubt, but they can't prophesy in front of the church.

 

[Chuckt]

PROPHESYING WOMEN.

Acts 21:7-9.​

"Philip, the evangelist, who was one of the seven…had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy." All the seven were "men of good report, full of the Spirit and of wisdom" (Act 6:3), and yet Philip did not restrain his four daughters from prophesying! The wisdom of those days, when the language of the Holy Ghost was so fully understood, had not led men to quench the Spirit, or to despise prophesying
then here in 1 Cor 11:5
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

That is the first lesson that I take out of this story. Although it has not much to do with Philip himself, still it is worth saying in these days when a particular organisation of the Church is supposed to be essential to Christian fellowship, and we Nonconformists, who have not the 'orders' that some of our brethren seem to think indispensable, are by a considerable school unchurched, because we are without them. But the primitive Church also was without them.

Still further and more important for us, in these brief years of brilliant service I note the spontaneous impulse which sets a Christian man to do Christian work. It was his brethren that picked out Philip, and said, 'Now go and distribute alms,' but his brethren had nothing to do with his next step. He was driven by circumstances out of Jerusalem, and he found himself in Samaria, and perhaps he remembered how Jesus Christ had said, on the day when He went up into Heaven, 'Ye shall be witnesses unto Me, both in Jerusalem and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost parts of the earth.' But whether he remembered that or not, he was here in Samaria, amongst the ancestral enemies of his nation. Nobody told him to preach when he went to Samaria. He had no commission from the Apostles to do so. He did not hold any office in the Church, except that which, according to the Apostles' intention in establishing it, ought to have stopped his mouth from preaching. For they said, when they appointed these seven, 'Let them serve tables, and we will give ourselves to the ministry of the word.' But Jesus Christ has a way of upsetting men's restrictions as to the functions of His servants. And so Philip, without a commission, and with many prejudices to stop his mouth, was the first to break through the limitations which confined the message of salvation to the Jews. Because he found himself in Samaria, and they needed Christ there, he did not wait for Peter and James and John to lay their hands upon his head, and say, 'Now you are entitled to speak about Him'; he did not wait for any appointment, but yielded to his own heart, a heart that was full of Jesus Christ, and must speak about Him; find he proclaimed the Gospel in that city.

Philip the Evangelist

My take on this background history is they were non-conformists and not part of an official church.

 

[Demi777]

The church is the people of God, not a building. "The early church" met in whatever building
was available to them, in the temple in homes etc. They also met daily.

Give up. he will not step back from his legalistic/fanatic view. He will only end up frustrating you like others here sister. God bless you

 

[KJV1611]

The church is the people of God, not a building. "The early church" met in whatever building
was available to them, in the temple in homes etc. They also met daily.

How so? Where does the bible say a group of friends meeting at a house is a church meeting.

 

[Demi777]

Philip the Evangelist

My take on this background history is they were non-conformists and not part of an official church.

A church is people together the body of christ it doesnt have to be a official church. church is church