Obedience & righteousness - extreme grace version
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well that didn't take long. i only have one Bernie Sanders button, and it's got a glossy finish. plus it hasn't really seen any use.
hey, i looked at this thread, and it sure looks like you agree with Ben. or at least, the scripture you replied with agrees with him. does that make you a "false grace teacher" ?
Ben's post (emphasis mine):
your reply (emphasis mine):
the scripture you quoted agrees with what Ben asked - isn't it that our heart convicts us, and the Spirit of Truth convinces us?
in your reply though, you seem to not be sure whether your heart is the Spirit or not. well, read the verse you quoted. it says: "if your heart condemns you, God is greater than your heart" -- so is God greater than God? of course not. John meant "heart" when he wrote "heart" -- no need fr you to try to re-write scripture to accommodate yourself. perhaps Ben has a point -- do you think? because you seem to agree, in this "evidence" you put.
why, it seems you are a "gnostic false grace teacher" yourself!
goodness, do you really think filing for bankruptcy so many times on the companies he inherited from his father really qualifies Trump to have such influence over the national economy as the sitting president can have?
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if you want to be ridiculous with the pretense that you are not, i'll at least be openly ridiculous.
for the record, i agree with you about Trump. i think he's a terrible choice for president.
for the record, i agree with you about Trump. i think he's a terrible choice for president.
If it seems we are crazy, it is to bring glory to God.
And if we are in our right minds, it is for your benefit.
(2 Corinthians 5:13)
And if we are in our right minds, it is for your benefit.
(2 Corinthians 5:13)
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For all of the game players and false accusers, here are a couple of examples where BenWTF and Grace777x70 say that they believe the holy spirit doesn't convict believers of sin. This is what all false grace teachers teach.
tales out of school
you little schoolyard bully you
try not to snap your big self righteous suspenders so loud...I have sensitive ears
if you want to respond to something, i think you should start with Galatians 2:20 -
- i no longer live, but Christ lives in me.
you denied that the Bible said either one of those things.
i corrected you.
you haven't acknowledged that.
i think we should get you on the same page as the scripture, before we can have any more meaningful bible discussion -- in the meanwhile, i'd be happy to go along with you encouraging the brothers and sisters not to vote for Trump. that's a worldly concern, and we don't have to have the same gospel to agree about that
- i no longer live, but Christ lives in me.
you denied that the Bible said either one of those things.
i corrected you.
you haven't acknowledged that.
i think we should get you on the same page as the scripture, before we can have any more meaningful bible discussion -- in the meanwhile, i'd be happy to go along with you encouraging the brothers and sisters not to vote for Trump. that's a worldly concern, and we don't have to have the same gospel to agree about that
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well it's not about feelings..well not how you feel anyway
it's actually about the constant lies, exaggerations and name calling
what he is currently doing to Angela right now shows his despicable ability to tromp any truth underfoot
his attacks are always without merit and always viscous...
he is either a very frustrated person or just bad tempered..either way, he is over the top with nastiness
in fact, I wonder if he has not had some sort of break from reality because he is certainly imagining most of what he posts
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peters message has truth in it. important truth. this whole thing is why brotherly Love is the commandment. if we are offended by the way something is presented, or offended by how someone receives what we know as truth, it divides, us and the good truthful message is despised and turns from profitable, to argument based on not Jesus ways, but mans feelings. remember we are called to not offend, but ALSO not easily be offended. if it is about the good message regardless of our negative feelings, there is profit and edification if the word is true. offer in Love, reject or accept in Love, Jesus deals with the rest.
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best call out one who twists what others say, call them names and slanders them and then hounds them around
But yes, certainly do follow Christ
as it is, any and all can read his posts and his accusations
his belittling manners are not an accident...no one that tells him to stop his nastiness thinks it is an accident
well, as usual, just a waste of time
just responding to how he is now attacking Angela who is consistently polite and provides ample scripture and yet he has mocked her and made fun of her
seriously? I don't admire that type of behavior in anyone . Most folks I know would consider that the voice of someone who is believing them self to be above everyone else
But yes, certainly do follow Christ
as it is, any and all can read his posts and his accusations
his belittling manners are not an accident...no one that tells him to stop his nastiness thinks it is an accident
well, as usual, just a waste of time
just responding to how he is now attacking Angela who is consistently polite and provides ample scripture and yet he has mocked her and made fun of her
seriously? I don't admire that type of behavior in anyone . Most folks I know would consider that the voice of someone who is believing them self to be above everyone else
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the presentation isn't in Love, or is the perception of it. Love one another is our focus. the message in the op is a good right message. were all growing in this thing. maybe our perception can change through Christ. sorry to butt in here just a thought offered in the hope of peace, God bless those who belong to Jesus Christ and hold Love up high
Here's a perfect example of the poisonous spirit that EG introduces to virtually every thread (IMO) he participates in. Here he has falsely accused me by saying: You do not care what anyone believes, nor do you know. You said it yourself.
In the post he's referring to I told one person this, yet his spirit of a false accuser turned it into a blanket accusation. This is not accidental. This is how he operates for some reason. There is no excuse for Christians doing this.
In the post he's referring to I told one person this, yet his spirit of a false accuser turned it into a blanket accusation. This is not accidental. This is how he operates for some reason. There is no excuse for Christians doing this.
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I think Peter is a great guy........you just need to understand that it SEEMS Peter believes being a great guy gets people to heaven.
One needs to read between the lines and critique a bit........And some of us are. Thus the "victim" thread.
Salvation may be in the balance here......so we should press it.
One needs to read between the lines and critique a bit........And some of us are. Thus the "victim" thread.
Salvation may be in the balance here......so we should press it.
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