The REAL Donald Trump?

[Desdichado]

Don't you people ever get tired of beating up on poor ole Trump?

No.

Bid them achieve me and sell my bones.

 

[KimPetras]

This race has left me puzzled. We don't have a decent candidate this time. We haven't really had a decent one for decades, but the downhill is even getting steeper now. The two candidates to the extreme left and to the extreme right are not good news for the country. The country needs consensus now, we're falling on hard times and a chief dragging one leg isn't going to be a political success. Unfortunately, there is no uniting candidate, and we're once again giving democracy a bad name.

Trump is uniting people together. I've never seen so many conservatives and liberals join forces to oppose a candidate to this degree.

 

[jennymae]

Trump is uniting people together. I've never seen so many conservatives and liberals join forces to oppose a candidate to this degree.

Lol, but hardly the kind of uniting we need

 

[Desdichado]

Trump is uniting people together. I've never seen so many conservatives and liberals join forces to oppose a candidate to this degree.

Or join with him for that matter.

It shows that the point of conflict in regards to him is not inherently ideological like most candidates.

 

[KimPetras]

Or join with him for that matter.

It shows that the point of conflict in regards to him is not inherently ideological like most candidates.

I think it's a mixture of both ideological and personal attributes people find in conflict. To be fair, he's been on every side of an issue. But you're correct in that many people dislike him for non ideological reasons as well.

 

[jennymae]

Or join with him for that matter.

It shows that the point of conflict in regards to him is not inherently ideological like most candidates.

That is also an excellent point. The hatred towards Trump is not necessarily reflecting a sound, logical foundation.

 

[Desdichado]

The real question of this primary season is quite literally who rules and directs the national conversation?

Is it the acolytes of Wall Street and K Street or the people of Main Street and Maple Street?

It's a question that breeds chaos, but that measure of chaos necessary to maintaining a Republican system of governance...depending on the results.

 

[jennymae]

Let's just face it. The GOP has for way to long been neglecting the people voting them into their positions. They've created Trump all by themselves. And now they're getting paid.

 

[Desdichado]

I think it's a mixture of both ideological and personal attributes people find in conflict. To be fair, he's been on every side of an issue. But you're correct in that many people dislike him for non ideological reasons as well.

I should have taken more care with my words. Love or hate for Trump does not generally fall along the lines of established ideological paradigms in the United States. It's still ideological; the questions being asked bleed into philosophies of governance.

Personal attributes have something to do with it as well. Bernie Sanders is that lovable, crazy uncle. Donald Trump is that gentleman you meet at the bar with simple yet almost plausible solutions to everything that end in the national interest. They are Jacksonian if you will, not Jeffersonian. "One of us."

 

[Desdichado]

Let's just face it. The GOP has for way to long been neglecting the people voting them into their positions. They've created Trump all by themselves. And now they're getting paid.

They should have seen this coming ten years off. Salam and Douthat are almost prophets.

 

[Desdichado]

I hasten to add that established ideological paradigms are still important for some voters.

I see one in the mirror every day.

 

[Desdichado]

Sorry folks.

End rant.

 

[Mitspa]

Let's just face it. The GOP has for way to long been neglecting the people voting them into their positions. They've created Trump all by themselves. And now they're getting paid.

Now you get it ..Trump is about blowing the whole dirty house up.

 

[jennymae]

I should have taken more care with my words. Love or hate for Trump does not generally fall along the lines of established ideological paradigms in the United States. It's still ideological; the questions being asked bleed into philosophies of governance.

Personal attributes have something to do with it as well. Bernie Sanders is that lovable, crazy uncle. Donald Trump is that gentleman you meet at the bar with simple yet almost plausible solutions to everything that end in the national interest. They are Jacksonian if you will, not Jeffersonian. "One of us."

There are times when you don't want "one of us" to be president...neither said crazy uncle or some loudmouth in a bar

 

[Desdichado]

There are times when you don't want "one of us" to be president...neither said crazy uncle or some loudmouth in a bar

I don't. Give me the elegant, aristocratic Virginia planter. First in peace. First in war. Not one of us, but a reflection of our greatest qualities to serve as an example for generations.

 

[jennymae]

I hasten to add that established ideological paradigms are still important for some voters.

I see one in the mirror every day.

Thanks for the clarification

 

[Desdichado]

Thanks for the clarification

Well you know, I do what I can.

 

[4enlightment]

I'm not a fan of Cruz, but he is my pick for who is left on the Republican party. I think he's more fit to be a Supreme Court Justice than he is a president in all honesty.

Plan A: Bernie for president
Plan B: Anybody but Hillary/Trump
Plan C: Anybody but Hillary

I don't want Cruz to drop out. That would almost certainly mean I'd have to vote for Trump when/if it's Trump vs Clinton. I may dislike Trump, but voting for Hillary will never happen for me.

As for the bold part of your post, I actually agree. The difference is, I know Bernie means what he says where as I have to hope Trump means what he says.

I know that you are a true patriotic person, that you will do anything for your country.



A German lawmaker has called for Donald Trump to be banned from entering the country, arguing that the Republican presidential candidate's comments on Muslims incite racial hatred. After UK, Germans call for Trump ban

 

[jennymae]

I know that you are a true patriotic person, that you will do anything for your country.



A German lawmaker has called for Donald Trump to be banned from entering the country, arguing that the Republican presidential candidate's comments on Muslims incite racial hatred. After UK, Germans call for Trump ban

Some politicians, on both sides of the pond, are being so PC and so bowing down to hostile religions that you could easily be using them for sidewalks. Banning a President would be a diplomatic scandal.

 

[posthuman]

A German lawmaker has called for Donald Trump to be banned from entering the country, arguing that the Republican presidential candidate's comments on Muslims incite racial hatred. After UK, Germans call for Trump ban

there's that "respect for America" he's out to engender again..

Trump says things about "corporate influence" and "anti-establishment" that he know people want to hear. he's smart about that. Trump's history is actually being that "big-money influence" though. being that interest that corrupts the establishment.

Sanders means the things that he says. his history shows it. Clinton and Cruz are just examples of the corrupted establishment. Trump's not an option for me. Clinton's not an option for me. Cruz's not an option for me. i'm pro-life & pro-marriage, but no president is going to change either of those things. Sanders is the only option i've got that i can live with saying "i support"

a loveable crazy uncle? i can live with that. actually, i like it. birds like him. maybe we'll stay out of WWIII another 8 years; that'll be nice.