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K
You are taking a liberal propaganda story and trying to sell it as facts...bad move young lady 
I have honestly tried looking for exact figures but I just get generic estimates showing how it's cheaper to house them than it is to do nothing. I've even tried googling "housing first debunked" but haven't seen anything showing that their figures are lies.
In fact, Utah is a solid RED state. If anyone would debunk the claims I would think it would be conservatives.
K
If a liberal said grass was green.. I would know they was a lie in it somewhere.. I don't think anyone nows whats behind this deal or how it will work out..to claim it as evidence ..is just not acceptable to me
Can you find me anything showing that Housing First is lying when they claim it's cheaper to house them than it is to not?
K
Well the idea that it saves money and is good for our society is just propaganda at this point in my humble opinion ..and I'm very humble... I tell everyone how humble I am ..just like the Pope does
K
In Massachusetts, the Home & Healthy for Good program reported some significant outcomes that were favorable especially in the area of cost savings.[SUP][12][/SUP]
The Denver Housing First Collaborative, operated by the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless,[SUP][13][/SUP] provides housing through a Housing First approach to more than 200 chronically homeless individuals. A 2006 cost study documented a significant reduction in the use and cost of emergency services by program participants as well as increased health status.[SUP][14][/SUP] Emergency room visits and costs were reduced by an average of 34.3 percent. Hospital inpatient costs were reduced by 66 percent. Detox visits were reduced by 82 percent. Incarceration days and costs were reduced by 76 percent. 77 percent of those entering the program continued to be housed in the program after two years.
Researchers in Seattle, Washington, partnering with the Downtown Emergency Service Center, found that providing housing and support services for homeless alcoholics costs taxpayers less than leaving them on the street, where taxpayer money goes towards police and emergency health care.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP][SUP][16][/SUP] Results of the study funded by the Substance Abuse Policy Research Program (SAPRP) of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation[SUP][17][/SUP] appeared in the Journal of the American Medical Association April, 2009.[SUP][2][/SUP] This first US controlled assessment of the effectiveness of Housing First specifically targeting chronically homeless alcoholics showed that the program saved taxpayers more than $4 million over the first year of operation. During the first six months, even after considering the cost of administering the housing, 95 residents in a Housing First program in downtown Seattle, the study reported an average cost-savings of 53 percent—nearly US $2,500 per month per person in health and social services, compared to the per month costs of a wait-list control group of 39 homeless people. Further, stable housing also results in reduced drinking among homeless alcoholics.
In Utah, there has been "a 72 percent decrease overall since enacting the plan in 2005" according to the Utah Division of Housing and Community Development.[SUP][18][/SUP]
In August 2007, the US Department of Housing and Urban Development reported that the number of chronically homeless individuals living on the streets or in shelters dropped by an unprecedented 30 percent, from 175,914 people in 2005 to 123,833 in 2007. This was credited in part to the "housing first" approach; Congress in 1999 directed that HUD spend 30% of its funding on the method.[SUP][19][/SUP]
In September 2010, it was reported that the Housing First Initiative had significantly reduced the chronic homeless single person population in Boston, Massachusetts, although homeless families were still increasing in number. Some shelters were reducing the number of beds due to lowered numbers of homeless, and some emergency shelter facilities were closing, especially the emergency Boston Night Center.[SUP][20][/SUP] By 2015, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh had announced a 3-year plan to end chronic homelessness, focusing on coordinating efforts among public agencies and nonprofit organizations providing services to homeless men and women.[SUP][21][/SUP][SUP][22][/SUP]
In 2013, the estimated national public cost of chronic homelessness was between $3.7 and $4.7 billion according to the United States Interagency Council on Homelessness (USICH). Through Housing First programs, chronically homeless individuals are using fewer hospital resources, spending less time in costly incarceration and requiring fewer emergency room visits. Studies in New York City and in Utah have shown that every homeless person housed in programs such as Housing First saves taxpayers $10,000 and $8,000 a year, respectively. A research study at Univeristy of Northern Carolina also reported that a housing project for the chronically homeless called Moore Place had saved the county $2.4 million.
The Denver Housing First Collaborative, operated by the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless,[SUP][13][/SUP] provides housing through a Housing First approach to more than 200 chronically homeless individuals. A 2006 cost study documented a significant reduction in the use and cost of emergency services by program participants as well as increased health status.[SUP][14][/SUP] Emergency room visits and costs were reduced by an average of 34.3 percent. Hospital inpatient costs were reduced by 66 percent. Detox visits were reduced by 82 percent. Incarceration days and costs were reduced by 76 percent. 77 percent of those entering the program continued to be housed in the program after two years.
Researchers in Seattle, Washington, partnering with the Downtown Emergency Service Center, found that providing housing and support services for homeless alcoholics costs taxpayers less than leaving them on the street, where taxpayer money goes towards police and emergency health care.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP][SUP][16][/SUP] Results of the study funded by the Substance Abuse Policy Research Program (SAPRP) of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation[SUP][17][/SUP] appeared in the Journal of the American Medical Association April, 2009.[SUP][2][/SUP] This first US controlled assessment of the effectiveness of Housing First specifically targeting chronically homeless alcoholics showed that the program saved taxpayers more than $4 million over the first year of operation. During the first six months, even after considering the cost of administering the housing, 95 residents in a Housing First program in downtown Seattle, the study reported an average cost-savings of 53 percent—nearly US $2,500 per month per person in health and social services, compared to the per month costs of a wait-list control group of 39 homeless people. Further, stable housing also results in reduced drinking among homeless alcoholics.
In Utah, there has been "a 72 percent decrease overall since enacting the plan in 2005" according to the Utah Division of Housing and Community Development.[SUP][18][/SUP]
In August 2007, the US Department of Housing and Urban Development reported that the number of chronically homeless individuals living on the streets or in shelters dropped by an unprecedented 30 percent, from 175,914 people in 2005 to 123,833 in 2007. This was credited in part to the "housing first" approach; Congress in 1999 directed that HUD spend 30% of its funding on the method.[SUP][19][/SUP]
In September 2010, it was reported that the Housing First Initiative had significantly reduced the chronic homeless single person population in Boston, Massachusetts, although homeless families were still increasing in number. Some shelters were reducing the number of beds due to lowered numbers of homeless, and some emergency shelter facilities were closing, especially the emergency Boston Night Center.[SUP][20][/SUP] By 2015, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh had announced a 3-year plan to end chronic homelessness, focusing on coordinating efforts among public agencies and nonprofit organizations providing services to homeless men and women.[SUP][21][/SUP][SUP][22][/SUP]
In 2013, the estimated national public cost of chronic homelessness was between $3.7 and $4.7 billion according to the United States Interagency Council on Homelessness (USICH). Through Housing First programs, chronically homeless individuals are using fewer hospital resources, spending less time in costly incarceration and requiring fewer emergency room visits. Studies in New York City and in Utah have shown that every homeless person housed in programs such as Housing First saves taxpayers $10,000 and $8,000 a year, respectively. A research study at Univeristy of Northern Carolina also reported that a housing project for the chronically homeless called Moore Place had saved the county $2.4 million.
Medicine Hat Alberta had been doing this for a while, with very positive results. It even turned a local who was against it into s believer!
Medicine Hat becomes the first city in Canada to eliminate homelessness - Home | As It Happens | CBC Radio
It seems obvious that a lot of people here have no clue what homelessness is all about! It is about the poor, the mentally ill, and even children. I can't imagine anyone who would chose to live on the streets because the are lazy! But that is what seemed to jump into a lot people's minds on this thread.
One me has to wonder what Jesus will say to those people.
"But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth." 1 John 3:17-18
We won't even get into the fact that caring for the poor was a major theme in the Old Testament, which the Jews all understood in Jesus' day!
Medicine Hat becomes the first city in Canada to eliminate homelessness - Home | As It Happens | CBC Radio
It seems obvious that a lot of people here have no clue what homelessness is all about! It is about the poor, the mentally ill, and even children. I can't imagine anyone who would chose to live on the streets because the are lazy! But that is what seemed to jump into a lot people's minds on this thread.
One me has to wonder what Jesus will say to those people.
"But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth." 1 John 3:17-18
We won't even get into the fact that caring for the poor was a major theme in the Old Testament, which the Jews all understood in Jesus' day!
