Why the king james?

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eternally-gratefull

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Oh sure I've found something wrong. People saying all versions say the same thing is wrong. because they don't. People who worship the original copies are wrong, it's a waste of time and nobody this day and age has ever benefitted from the Greek and Hebrew. If you disagree, please show me the earth shattering revelations you have found. If you cannot produce that then don't bother arguing over the Greek being superior.
lol.. keep believing this.

ANYONE who is versed in the study of languages KNOWS the greek language is far superior to the english language. They are not even comparable.
 

John146

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And you know man is both. Man is both made and created.

see this is the problem.

Even when you are shown differences, You ignore them.

If they disagree or go against you, it is just a minor difference, But if it agrees wiht you, it is a major difference. In other words, your not being honest.

as for this post, There is a huge difference between the words.

You create something that has never been made before.

You make things which were already created by someone else.
 
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What does word for word have to with anything? I can convey any message in the Greek in English. Baptize means to be immersed in English, does it mean something different in Greek?
Yeah actually it does, it has a few different meaning in the greek. Immerse is just one of them.

WHy did they not just translate baptize immerse then? If that is all it meant. Because it was not all it meant. It can also mean to dye (a baptizer was a dyer in the greek culture) it can mean to place into union with another person (Israel was baptized into moses, who was the head) they were not immersed into moses.

In fact, if the KJV interpretaors would have actually INTERPRETED the word, instead of transliterate, we would not have the confusion about baptism we have today.


You still have refused to answer all the greek verb tense differences, which some can not be translated accurately in a word for word interpretation.
 
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Well let's see what you've learned from the versions you use. In James 2 was Abraham considered righteous by his works or was Abraham's faith justified by his works?

Both!


..."dikaiosune" is the Greek word translated "righteous" and "justified" many times in the in the New Testament and it means "acquitted" ( justified ) to "vindicate," or "to be made righteous." We are justified (acquitted from the punishment of sin) and declared righteous because of God who is in us.

It would behoove you to learn some greek. or at least start studying it,, You would see how much you are missing, and how enslaved you are by this cultish worship of one version over another.
 
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And you know man is both. Man is both made and created.
Man was created,

Adam from the ground, Eve from adam.

Everyone else is born.


You make a sandwhich, or a bike by putting parts together in a way the creator told you to make it.

You create the heavens and the earth, and the human race,
 

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One of the doctrines that did it for me is in the difference of one word in Galatians 2:16, "of" and "in." You can find it in other places as well.

KJV "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

ESV "yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified."

There is a HUGE difference in the two. Being justified by the faith of Christ lets me know that being justified is not about my puny faith which waivers day by day, but in Christ's faith that never waivers.
 

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Adam's body was formed from the dust of the earth, his soul was created.

Man was created,

Adam from the ground, Eve from adam.

Everyone else is born.


You make a sandwhich, or a bike by putting parts together in a way the creator told you to make it.

You create the heavens and the earth, and the human race,
 

John146

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Also, modern versions don't say the same thing because there are many verses missing. To say they are all Bibles is false. Didn't God warn us not to add to or take away from His words?
 

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Also, modern versions don't say the same thing because there are many verses missing. To say they are all Bibles is false. Didn't God warn us not to add to or take away from His words?
correct. but He was not referring to the KJV. there is 60+ pages mostly of you and kjv1611 defending your idol. think about that. don't worship books, worship God.
 

John146

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If you believed you had the word of God without error, I hope you would defend it till the end. That's not idol worship. That's honoring the word of God. The thing is, nobody believes any of the modern version is the word of God.

correct. but He was not referring to the KJV. there is 60+ pages mostly of you and kjv1611 defending your idol. think about that. don't worship books, worship God.
 

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I will defend the Bible to the end. I will not take 1 version, say the rest are trash, throw them out. this is man-made theology. God's word is far far bigger than 1 version. nothing wrong with the KJV, but I and many others just prefer to read modern language.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Adam's body was formed from the dust of the earth, his soul was created.
His body was still created, It did not just come up in a clump of mass,, Have you ever studied the human body? It is not just stuff thrown together.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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One of the doctrines that did it for me is in the difference of one word in Galatians 2:16, "of" and "in." You can find it in other places as well.

KJV "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

ESV "yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified."

There is a HUGE difference in the two. Being justified by the faith of Christ lets me know that being justified is not about my puny faith which waivers day by day, but in Christ's faith that never waivers.
lol..

You will never have the faith of Jesus, Until you get to heaven. your faiht will always waver, Jesus never did

You better trust Jesus, He is the one who is offering you the gift.. You will not be saved, unless you trust him.

Picky Picky,, No a mistake at all.. and doe snot change the meaning.
 
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Also, modern versions don't say the same thing because there are many verses missing. To say they are all Bibles is false. Didn't God warn us not to add to or take away from His words?
Or maybe the KJV added many verses?

Since you were not there and did not see the origionals, You only assume verses were removed, you can prove any were removed, or any were addedd. Thus you have a moot point which can not be proven.
 

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Right, so you must go with either the KJV only, or all the rest. Choose wisely...

Or maybe the KJV added many verses?

Since you were not there and did not see the origionals, You only assume verses were removed, you can prove any were removed, or any were addedd. Thus you have a moot point which can not be proven.
 

John146

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So your going to defend something that you yourself don't believe is 100% true?

I will defend the Bible to the end. I will not take 1 version, say the rest are trash, throw them out. this is man-made theology. God's word is far far bigger than 1 version. nothing wrong with the KJV, but I and many others just prefer to read modern language.
 
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Right, so you must go with either the KJV only, or all the rest. Choose wisely...
Thanks, You just proved you are not one we should base any information on which to place our faith in.

To get that out of what I wrote??


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John146

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Absolutely it does. Are you justified by your faith or the faith of Christ? That's HUGE! You can't have it both ways.

lol..

You will never have the faith of Jesus, Until you get to heaven. your faiht will always waver, Jesus never did

You better trust Jesus, He is the one who is offering you the gift.. You will not be saved, unless you trust him.

Picky Picky,, No a mistake at all.. and doe snot change the meaning.
 
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So your going to defend something that you yourself don't believe is 100% true?

I do not agree with everything in our constitution.

But I defended it for 15 years with my life in the military.


we do it every day.. Wow man.. just wow