MISUNDERESTIMATING CLARIFICATIONS

[jennymae]

True.............you rise to that level by being void of Honesty, Integrity and Truth in Business Transactions.

He does have a successful Business plan. Desire to build something........Get other people/Banks to put up the financing for the construction. Get someone to design the thing being built. Hire the cheapest labor available. Partner with known Organized Crime owned Suppliers of construction materials. Upon completion of Project, stand in front of Project taking all the credit for what others accomplished.

AND, BEST OF ALL, should the Project go belly up? Well, get out quick, and let the OTHER GUYS lose their investment!

I wonder when the book about "Rising To Prosperity By Filing For Bankruptcy Protection" is released?

 

[Willie-T]

I wonder when the book about "Rising To Prosperity By Filing For Bankruptcy Protection" is released?

It comes out right after Hillary and Barry's books about their own honesty hit the newsstands. Are you seriously looking tor an honest politician.... or even and honest person? Diogenes is still out there, wandering around with his lamp.

 

[jennymae]

This is a very reactionary comment. You do not want someone who only plans to react one way to any given situation in the future.... At that time, the decisions made will not be the ones spoken about today UNLESS the entire world situation remains frozen exactly as it exists today. And that is totally unrealistic. Who will be our allies then... our enemies... who will be in power..... in which countries... how will they view us at that particular moment.... what will be the overall world political climate then... ? And a hundred and one other VERY important considerations will have to be taken into consideration...................................................... and you want to hear the answer that will make you feel comfortable right this minute.

Well, feeding you that momentarily satisfying pabulum is the very essence of political campaigning to the dull masses. It is the very reason we have had Obama in the White House for two terms. Most people really don't think much past what will make them feel good tonight. They probably DO think the pat answer they are listening to will always work in any situation.

That's just real life.

You are not getting what I'm saying. I'm not saying I want a person who plans to react one way to any give sitution in the future. I want a candidate that has been doing some thinking about being the POTUS. You think your candidate dealt with the non frozen surroundings in a fairly reasonable manner when he was being questioned about his take on punishing women the other day? His way of handling that situation told me he is not a person that is able to adjust himself when required. To my best knowledge he comes across as a person who clearly hasn't been giving politics much attention.

 

[jennymae]

It comes out right after Hillary and Barry's books about their own honesty hit the newsstands. Are you seriously looking tor an honest politician.... or even and honest person? Diogenes is still out there, wandering around with his lamp.

No, I didn't say that. I don't know why you are putting words into my mouth. I'm not looking for an honest politician, and I'm not going to run Diogenes out of business, but I don't want a politician that has made dishonesty his Trademark.

 

[Willie-T]

No, I didn't say that. I don't know why you are putting words into my mouth. I'm not looking for an honest politician, and I'm not going to run Diogenes out of business, but I don't want a politician that has made dishonesty his Trademark.

You don't seem to understand that the man who lies or pulls off shady deals and admits it, is actually more honest than the ones who do the same things (or worse) and lie about it while sweetly smiling at you, claiming they don't.

It's really not them. It is us, and how long we choose to keep our heads buried in the sand.

 

[crossnote]

Oh, so it is possible to simply say "yes" or "no"? I think that could be useful for students studying Political Science

Probably

 

[jennymae]

You don't seem to understand that the man who lies or pulls off shady deals and admits it, is actually more honest than the ones who do the same things (or worse) and lie about it while sweetly smiling at you, claiming they don't.

It's really not them. It is us, and how long we choose to keep our heads buried in the sand.

I do not for a second believe that he is admitting to more than he has to, and that fact isn't a very comfortable fact. Both you and me know that every politician is lying, pulling off shady deals, cheating on their spouses and whatnot. If your man is Trump, good, but he sure isn't my man in the race. And, for the record, Clinton is as bad as he is.

 

[Willie-T]

You are not getting what I'm saying. I'm not saying I want a person who plans to react one way to any give sitution in the future. I want a candidate that has been doing some thinking about being the POTUS. You think your candidate dealt with the non frozen surroundings in a fairly reasonable manner when he was being questioned about his take on punishing women the other day? His way of handling that situation told me he is not a person that is able to adjust himself when required. To my best knowledge he comes across as a person who clearly hasn't been giving politics much attention.

First of all, we all have to be fooling ourselves to think that any of the candidates don't think, think, think, and think all the time..... about all sorts of scenarios.

But, we are absolute idiots if we cannot see the tricks the media plays in their own seemingly "innocent" off-the-cuff questions. Those questions were each very carefully and diabolically planned out by master wordsmiths, people who use the influence and implications of words, professionally in every moment of their waking day, and likely dream about devising more snares in their sleep. There are no simple, plain questions ever asked by the media.

Their questions are carefully crafted, and if you will pay attention, are reserved for and asked at very crucial, strategic moments. It's the old question no man can answer safely: "Have you quit beating your wife?"

 

[Willie-T]

I do not for a second believe that he is admitting to more than he has to, and that fact isn't a very comfortable fact. Both you and me know that every politician is lying, pulling off shady deals, cheating on their spouses and whatnot. If your man is Trump, good, but he sure isn't my man in the race. And, for the record, Clinton is as bad as he is.

Trump is not my man. Far from my first choice. My man dropped out long ago when it was clear we did not really want a man who might try to be somewhat honest. But I will end up having to vote for Trump... just as you will have to vote for Clinton if you are a Democrat. We're both stuck with electing a snake to keep the other snake out of office.

 

[jennymae]

First of all, we all have to be fooling ourselves to think that any of the candidates don't think, think, think, and think all the time..... about all sorts of scenarios.

But, we are absolute idiots if we cannot see the tricks the media plays in their own seemingly "innocent" off-the-cuff questions. Those questions were each very carefully and diabolically planned out by master wordsmiths, people who use the influence and implications of words, professionally in every moment of their waking day, and likely dream about devising more snares in their sleep. There are no simple, plain questions ever asked by the media.

Their questions are carefully crafted, and if you will pay attention, are reserved for and asked at very crucial, strategic moments. It's the old question no man can answer safely: "Have you quit beating your wife?"

Well, the way I see it the media is something a candidate should know how to be dealing with. He should know that the media will be on him like white on rice 24/7. He oughta know that the media will be asking questions that are difficult, unreasonable and even ludicrous. This is how they can make people stumble, and we really don't need a person who hasn't been giving these scenarioes some thoughts. If the media isn't hauling him through these questions, be sure some hostile politician in a foreign country will, like they've done with one Hussein, currently residing in the WH.

 

[Kayiw1]

You don't seem to understand that the man who lies or pulls off shady deals and admits it, is actually more honest than the ones who do the same things (or worse) and lie about it while sweetly smiling at you, claiming they don't.


---- You are soooo Right. Just like how Trump denies using illegal immigrants and swares he has Never gone bankrupt!

 

[Willie-T]

You don't seem to understand that the man who lies or pulls off shady deals and admits it, is actually more honest than the ones who do the same things (or worse) and lie about it while sweetly smiling at you, claiming they don't.


---- You are soooo Right. Just like how Trump denies using illegal immigrants and swares he has Never gone bankrupt!

Like Bill swears he "never had sexual relations with that young lady", Monica. Technically, they are both right, and we have to be smart enough to hear what they are not saying.

 

[Willie-T]

Well, the way I see it the media is something a candidate should know how to be dealing with. He should know that the media will be on him like white on rice 24/7. He oughta know that the media will be asking questions that are difficult, unreasonable and even ludicrous. This is how they can make people stumble, and we really don't need a person who hasn't been giving these scenarioes some thoughts. If the media isn't hauling him through these questions, be sure some hostile politician in a foreign country will, like they've done with one Hussein, currently residing in the WH.

Not the same, at all. Trump knows how to turn conversations. And that is what heads of states have, conversations... not just one question formulated by a devious committee of fifty reporters and editors, fired out there with 10 seconds to come up with an answer. He will likely just calmly turn the path of the conversation till he can state what he chooses to say.

 

[hornetguy]

yet he probably couldn't SPELL experienced.

at least, not without his teleprompter....

remember the "Marine Corpse" comment? He ain't that bright... just good at foolin' the masses.

 

[hornetguy]

Well, the way I see it the media is something a candidate should know how to be dealing with. He should know that the media will be on him like white on rice 24/7.

Unless the candidate is a liberal...

 

[tanakh]

I said that I did not say what you heard me say when I said it. Just because you heard me say what I said as I said it, does not mean I said what you heard me say as I was saying it. What I said was not what you heard me say. You heard me say what I said as I was saying it, but that was not what I said. Your saying I said what you heard me say as I was saying it is unfair and misleading because what I said was different than what you heard me say as I was saying it. You need to stop saying I said what you heard me say what I said as I was saying it because that is not what I said.



(Somewhere "W" is like; "We misunderestimated this guy."


CLARIFICATION:

Watching Trump go through one clarification after another to try and fix the mistake he made concerning his views on abortion last week has surely become a spectator sport.

What really caught my attention, that (apparently) only I noticed, was his ending comment from his latest clarification yesterday when he said:

"Now I have it to where everyone will agree."

WOW!

That is CLARIFICATION!

Not exactly a "conviction," nor even a firm stance on an important issue such as Right to Life, but it IS clarifying.

Keep working at it Donald.............

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[KimPetras]

I mean anyone complaining about Trump.

How stupidly wish washy are we? "We" want someone who is not a polished and practiced politician, yet when we have one standing right in front of us, we complain because he does not give the kind of pat answers we have been complaining about for years and years.

There isn't anything wishy washy about wanting a candidate to give a competent answer. Someone can be original and polished. People don't have to make a fool of themselves with gaff after gaff to prove they are speaking their mind and not reciting something a writer wrote for them to say.

 

[Mitspa]

There isn't anything wishy washy about wanting a candidate to give a competent answer. Someone can be original and polished. People don't have to make a fool of themselves with gaff after gaff to prove they are speaking their mind and not reciting something a writer wrote for them to say.

Trump is not a polished politician ..but he clearly comes from a more honest place than the others.

 

[KimPetras]

It's actually a rather naïve and foolish person who believes ANYONE can give one, single honest answer to the kinds of questions asked of politicians. Yet, the polished ones give their carefully pre-calculated replies... and we stupidly applaud, actually thinking they, themselves believe the crap they are dishing up for us.

The funny thing is I'm sure Trump discussed what he ought to say with his speech writers/campaign managers and thought he could wing it. So even Trump's response was calculated... albeit, very poorly. lol

 

[KimPetras]

True.............you rise to that level by being void of Honesty, Integrity and Truth in Business Transactions.

He does have a successful Business plan. Desire to build something........Get other people/Banks to put up the financing for the construction. Get someone to design the thing being built. Hire the cheapest labor available. Partner with known Organized Crime owned Suppliers of construction materials. Upon completion of Project, stand in front of Project taking all the credit for what others accomplished.

AND, BEST OF ALL, should the Project go belly up? Well, get out quick, and let the OTHER GUYS lose their investment!

I'm pleased you've done your homework on Trump. I feel many of his supporters ignore the facts and just look at his beautiful wife and money and think "SUCCESS!!!"