The Intersection of Theoogy and Science

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The Koran also says that Jesus was not crucified.

Not in the Arabic.

But...you have already amply demonstrated that you don't know ANY Arabic whatsoever......so, how are you going to prove your assertion?

Can we say google...?
 
And yet we are being told Jesus was Mohammed. Stop interfering. You are not helping even if you think are, even if it is your hope to do so. Either agree or disagree: was Jesus Christ Mohammed? And if you think He was, side with Bowman and defend it. If you believe He was not, then join us in asking for proof from Scripture where Bowman says he bases his beliefs.

I have not explored this topic of 'was Jesus Christ Mohammed'.
At face-value, I would say--No! Jesus Christ and Mohammed were/are not the same person!

Bowman has drawn a line in the sand between the Islamic and Koranic Muhammads.
I see this line.
 
Not in the Arabic.
But...you have already amply demonstrated that you don't know ANY Arabic whatsoever......so, how are you going to prove your assertion?
Can we say google...?
"And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain". S. 4:157 Pickthall

What's wrong with using internet resources, Muhammadan?
If you are against them, get off your computer and go for a walk.
Or use your computer for games. You seem good at them.
 
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I wanted to provide an example of how misquoting someone can lead to [a twisted] meaning of what they intended to communicate.
WOW YOU ARE A STINKING LIAR? B1DAVANDA NEVER POSTED THAT WHERE YOU SAID? YOU JUST TOOK THE NAME OF B1DAVANDA, PUT YOUR OWN WORDS IN, AN PUT IT IN A QUOTE BOX AS IF HE SAID IT! THIS IS DECEPTION OF THE HIGHEST ORDER AND A DIRECT VIOLATION AND YOU ARE A FILTHY LITTLE LIAR!
 
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WOW YOU ARE A STINKING LIAR? B1DAVANDA NEVER POSTED THAT WHERE YOU SAID? YOU JUST TOOK THE NAME OF B1DAVANDA, PUT YOUR OWN WORDS IN, AN PUT IT IN A QUOTE BOX AS IF HE SAID IT! THIS IS DECEPTION OF THE HIGHEST ORDER AND A DIRECT VIOLATION AND YOU ARE A FILTHY LITTLE LIAR!
Yeah, I agree, you said no such thing, so that was no twist, that was outright deception and fabrication.
 
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B1Davanda did not say this. This was a lie by brotherjustin who inserted words into a quotebox that were not written by B1Davanda.
Brotherjustin is a deceiver and a liar.
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Apologize for this deception, BJ,
And retract it,
Or you remain a stinking liar!
 
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B1Davanda did not say this. This was a lie by brotherjustin who inserted words into a quotebox that were not written by B1Davanda.
Brotherjustin is a deceiver and a liar.
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Apologize for this deception, BJ,
And retract it,
Or you remain a stinking liar!

Wake up and smell the coffee, B1Davanda--roaringkitten posted that quote by Bowman...

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I am glad you understood what I did there. That was the point--to show you that quoting a quote does not prove anything; we must go to the source. Bowman explained his point--but you people aren't satisfied with that so you set up this strawman argument of 'hey, show us in the Bible where it says that Jesus and Muhammad are the same'.

... If I had a nickel for every time someone called me a name on this website...
 
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Wake up and smell the coffee, B1Davanda--roaringkitten posted that quote by Bowman...

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I am glad you understood what I did there. That was the point--to show you that quoting a quote does not prove anything; we must go to the source. Bowman explained his point--but you people aren't satisfied with that so you set up this strawman argument of 'hey, show us in the Bible where it says that Jesus and Muhammad are the same'.

... If I had a nickel for every time someone called me a name on this website...
What you did is in no way similar or comparable. You outright changed what B1Davanda said, and nobody has changed what the Mohammedan BM said. You are deliberately interfering and being deceptive, and one must wonder why. I certainly would not have expected it of you.

The Mohammedan says they base their beliefs on Scripture. Jesus Christ is revealed in Scripture. Claiming Jesus Christ is Mohammed should then be able to be proven by this Mohammedan by using Scripture, which he bases his beliefs on. If not he is shown to be a liar one way or another.
 
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Wake up and smell the coffee, B1Davanda--roaringkitten posted that quote by Bowman...

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I am glad you understood what I did there. That was the point--to show you that quoting a quote does not prove anything; we must go to the source. Bowman explained his point--but you people aren't satisfied with that so you set up this strawman argument of 'hey, show us in the Bible where it says that Jesus and Muhammad are the same'.

... If I had a nickel for every time someone called me a name on this website...
Im not calling you names. Im saying you're a liar because you lied.
Roaring kitten re-quoted exactly what your bowfriend said.
You didnt requote or misquote me. You fabricated it wholesale,
inserting words into a quotebox and attributing it to me.
That makes you a deceiver and a liar and after I had just supported you on another thread for reconciling with another member you pull a stunt like this, and you do it in support of a closet muslum troll. You disgust me, but Jesus is watching this whole thing, and He's still King of kings and Lord if lords, you can't defeat Him because He's already won the victory over sin, death, and your false gods like allah and muhammed.
 
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Im not calling you names. Im saying you're a liar because you lied.
Roaring kitten re-quoted exactly what your bowfriend said.
You didnt requote or misquote me. You fabricated it wholesale,
inserting words into a quotebox and attributing it to me.
That makes you a deceiver and a liar and after I had just supported you on another thread for reconciling with another member you pull a stunt like this, and you do it in support of a closet muslum troll. You disgust me, but Jesus is watching this whole thing, and He's still King of kings and Lord if lords, you can't defeat Him because He's already won the victory over sin, death, and your false gods like allah and muhammed.

I don't know Bowman personally--but I can read the two simple posts from that thread and understand what he meant.

I see lots of insults on this thread, and it's not Christlike--this disgusts me.

I did not lie.
 
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What you did is in no way similar or comparable. You outright changed what B1Davanda said, and nobody has changed what the Mohammedan BM said. You are deliberately interfering and being deceptive, and one must wonder why. I certainly would not have expected it of you.

The Mohammedan says they base their beliefs on Scripture. Jesus Christ is revealed in Scripture. Claiming Jesus Christ is Mohammed should then be able to be proven by this Mohammedan by using Scripture, which he bases his beliefs on. If not he is shown to be a liar one way or another.

I was simply making the point that the screenshot provided did not prove anything.

I wasn't trying to imply that B1Davanda made a Santa Claus post -- this is evidenced by my text which reads:" I wanted to provide an example of how misquoting someone can lead to [a twisted] meaning of what they intended to communicate."
 
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I don't know Bowman personally--but I can read the two simple posts from that thread and understand what he meant.
I see lots of insults on this thread, and it's not Christlike--this disgusts me.
I did not lie.
You deliberately misrepresented something someone said and compared it to a direct quote! Your tactics are beyond questionable, and I agree: not Christ-like at all.
 
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I don't know Bowman personally--but I can read the two simple posts from that thread and understand what he meant.

I see lots of insults on this thread, and it's not Christlike--this disgusts me.

I did not lie.
You don't seem to know the meaning of the word.

And you stand against at least 7 others that saw it differently, on two different threads. Pretty good odds you're mistaken at best.
And putting your own words into anothers quotebox and attributing it
to them is equivalent to a lie.
Claiming it's the same thing as misunderstanding another one's post is a lie. It's not the same thing at all, and you've been around long enough to know better. This was deliberate deception on your part.
You lied, bj. Admit it.
 
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You deliberately misrepresented something someone said and compared it to a direct quote! Your tactics are beyond questionable, and I agree: not Christ-like at all.

A screenshot is not sufficient evidence, as I demonstrated by misrepresenting someone else's quote--that's all.
 
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You don't seem to know the meaning of the word.

And you stand against at least 7 others that saw it differently, on two different threads. Pretty good odds you're mistaken at best.
And putting your own words into anothers quotebox and attributing it
to them is equivalent to a lie.
Claiming it's the same thing as misunderstanding another one's post is a lie. It's not the same thing at all, and you've been around long enough to know better. This was deliberate deception on your part.
You lied, bj. Admit it.

A screenshot is not sufficient evidence, as I demonstrated by misrepresenting your quote--that's all.
 
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A screenshot is not sufficient evidence, as I demonstrated by misrepresenting someone else's quote--that's all.
Hardly comparable at all. Why do you keep interfering and deliberately muddying the waters? Do you agree with the Mohammedan that Jesus Christ was an admitted sinner?
 
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Hardly comparable at all. Why do you keep interfering and deliberately muddying the waters? Do you agree with the Mohammedan that Jesus Christ was an admitted sinner?

Come again?
 
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A screenshot is not sufficient evidence, as I demonstrated by misrepresenting your quote--that's all.
But you didn't simply misrepresent 'my quote', as if one existed.
You fabricated a completely new one, and put it in my quote box.
Why do you keep lying to cover your first deception.
Just admit you were wrong, it won't be the first time, and probably not the last.
But you can at least come clean on this one.
It's funny that you felt like you were the one that had to go to a moderator, when you were the one in violation of falsifying a text and attributing it to another.
You were wrong on this one, just as much as you were wrong about the muslums equivocating on his claims about Jesus as well.
 
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But you didn't simply misrepresent 'my quote', as if one existed.
You fabricated a completely new one, and put it in my quote box.
Why do you keep lying to cover your first deception.
Just admit you were wrong, it won't be the first time, and probably not the last.
But you can at least come clean on this one.
It's funny that you felt like you were the one that had to go to a moderator, when you were the one in violation of falsifying a text and attributing it to another.
You were wrong on this one, just as much as you were wrong about the muslums equivocating on his claims about Jesus as well.

Funny?

Is Bowman a Muslim? No--didn't think so.

B1, Had I simply left that fake quote with no explanation and said that it was yours, then I would understand your issue with me--I would understand you calling me a liar and a deceiver. But I'm not claiming that you said Santa Claus is real--that was never my intention. So what is my offense?