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Actually, all sin is equal the one to the other. For, whatsiever is sin is Darkness.There is only one sin for which there is no Forgiveness for, and that sin is where you take the Word of God, twist it to your own understanding, and then TEACH it to someone else. This is called BLASPHEMY. As far as homosexuality is concerned, it is no doubt a BURDEN, and we all have them. Some worse than others. It appears your brother has become likened unto a leper whom the "righteous" have rejected. However, there is none righteous, no not one. I believe we were instructed to carry one another's burdens; and rather than to condemn and pass judgment upon the one whose burdens are greater than our own; we are commanded to love and pray for those whom no one else wants to comfort. It does not matter if your brother does not love the Lord. Maybe some day a soft word of the Lord's may lead him back to the LIGHT. For we all came from that LIGHT, but we all got lost along the way. And don't think for one minute that your righteousness exceeds that of your brother's. For we have all sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Rather, we are to forgive such a one who struggles with such a burden, reaffirming our love for them. Until one has learned how to crucify the deeds of their own flesh, that one is certainly not qualified to pass judgment. One does not wake up one morning and "choose" to be gay. It is a burden, and we ALL have them. But if you want to be perfect, then you must learn how to overcome the burdens we have all been dealt with. LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Jesus asked Peter, " Do you LOVE Me more than these?". And Peter told Jesus, "Yes Lord, you know that I love you" . So Jesus tells Peter, " Feed the Lambs of Me". Again Jesus asks Peter, " Do you LOVE Me?". And again Peter says, " Yes Lord, you know that I love you." And Jesus says to Peter, "Shepherd the Sheep of Me." Again Jesus asks Peter, "Do you LOVE Me?" Frustrated, Peter says, " Lord, you Perceive all things, You know that I love You." Finally Jesus says to Peter, " Feed the little Sheep of Me".
Now, many do not understand that Jesus was asking Peter if Peter Loved Jesus with a Godly, Unconditional Love (which is the greek word of Agape). However, Peter would not tell Jesus he loved Him in that way. But rather, Peter only loved Jesus as in a friendship type of love ( which is the greek word of Philia) . As having taken the name of Christ, we are required to Love everyone with Godly Love, that we would be willing to feed Christ ( the Word) to the Sheep and the Lambs. This includes the Sheep who are Lost, and who have Fallen into a PIT. For, did not Jesus pull the Sheep from the PIT even on the traditional Sabbath day of the Pharisees? Indeed, we are not judges, and let us not judge, but rather let us LOVE one another. For we all have burdens.
Now, many do not understand that Jesus was asking Peter if Peter Loved Jesus with a Godly, Unconditional Love (which is the greek word of Agape). However, Peter would not tell Jesus he loved Him in that way. But rather, Peter only loved Jesus as in a friendship type of love ( which is the greek word of Philia) . As having taken the name of Christ, we are required to Love everyone with Godly Love, that we would be willing to feed Christ ( the Word) to the Sheep and the Lambs. This includes the Sheep who are Lost, and who have Fallen into a PIT. For, did not Jesus pull the Sheep from the PIT even on the traditional Sabbath day of the Pharisees? Indeed, we are not judges, and let us not judge, but rather let us LOVE one another. For we all have burdens.
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My niece is gay, but I would never turn my back on her. The Bible says to love our brothers as we love thy self. You do not have to love their sin, but be a sister to him. Let God take control. Watch that movie War Room and start your War Room Prayer Room. Trust me it works. God Bless and I will pray for you and family.
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That is a demon
Homosexuality is demonic big time.
You CONTINUALLY REBUKE THE DEVIL OFF OF HIM.
not with your brother there. Just take authority in the spirit.
You pray for him,and you show your brother love ,but stay away from him if possible.
Your stand as a christian,is power,and LOVE.
Specifically pray for laborers to cross his path. POWERFUL men of God.But keep breaking satan off of him.
Make your case before the throne. Talk,speak,declare your brothers testimony.
His current testimony is the wrong one. So,you break all that mess off him,and call down his God given place in the kingdom.
You claim him for the kingdom.
YOU MAKE SATAN RELEASE HIM
Right now in Jesus' mighty name we break every work of the enemy off her brother. We say "no more will you mess with him"
Get out now. We evict you and dismantle every work and structure you have established in this young man and we call down heaven,and the blood of Jesus to come now and invade this mans entire being. We break every chain,every soul tie,every relationship from the enemy and call down right friends and relationships.
Homosexuality is demonic big time.
You CONTINUALLY REBUKE THE DEVIL OFF OF HIM.
not with your brother there. Just take authority in the spirit.
You pray for him,and you show your brother love ,but stay away from him if possible.
Your stand as a christian,is power,and LOVE.
Specifically pray for laborers to cross his path. POWERFUL men of God.But keep breaking satan off of him.
Make your case before the throne. Talk,speak,declare your brothers testimony.
His current testimony is the wrong one. So,you break all that mess off him,and call down his God given place in the kingdom.
You claim him for the kingdom.
YOU MAKE SATAN RELEASE HIM
Right now in Jesus' mighty name we break every work of the enemy off her brother. We say "no more will you mess with him"
Get out now. We evict you and dismantle every work and structure you have established in this young man and we call down heaven,and the blood of Jesus to come now and invade this mans entire being. We break every chain,every soul tie,every relationship from the enemy and call down right friends and relationships.
I am sick and tired of listening to Christians tell homosexuals they are going to go to hell. Not if they are saved. Please stop saying that. They are humans, sinful as I. I am no better than a homosexual. I am no better than an atheist. I am no better than any person on this earth. I believe in God, I believe that Jesus come to save us all and he died and rose again. Why must a homosexual think and be condemned so harshly. They sin, I sin. If homosexuality condemns them to hell, well I hope everyone is looking forward to hell because we have all sinned and fallen short of His glory. We should pray for them, and every other person on this earth. Look at yourselves before condemning others. Thank you and God Bless your souls.
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the very thing you should do is pray for him and continue to love him. This life style will not provide the peace he is seeking. but we as Christians need to continue to lift our family member up before the Lord. If you have a good relationship with him continue to build it. tell him that you are praying for him and if you need someone to talk to your there and so is Jesus .
the very thing you should do is pray for him and continue to love him. This life style will not provide the peace he is seeking. but we as Christians need to continue to lift our family member up before the Lord. If you have a good relationship with him continue to build it. tell him that you are praying for him and if you need someone to talk to your there and so is Jesus .
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First of all your advice is not biblical. Jesus12 is not being hung up on her sibling's sexual life, she is concerned and so is Jesus. It may be theirs and it has a lot to do with her since she is a Christian and she along with other Christians are being forced to accept the homosexual lifestyle as normal, not wrong and if we do not accept it, we are called bigots, morons, ignorant, haters, etc. We can also lose our jobs like Barronelle Stutzman, Jack Philips, the Klein family were they even took out the money in their bank account including what they would give to their church, the ones who own a NY farm, etc. What they do with their body also will affect him as well as the other person. Her brother is not gay, he just believes he is and might even be engaging in the homosexual lifestyle which is against God and goes against the institution of marriage as ordained by God in Genesis and as quoted by Jesus in Matthew and in another gospel which I just forgot. She should love her brother as a fellow but he is not gay in God's eyes, yes Jesus loves him but he does not approve of someone going against His design for them. This is not about want she wants them to be, it is what God wants them to be since he made them male and female and according to His plan, those unnatural desires go contrary for His will for their life.
Gooey, God loves and created you to know him personally. He has a plan for your life. The condition of man is sin (rebellion, passive indifference, etc) against God. Due to that we cannot know God personally or experience His love and plan for our lives. So we try works-based religion, having moral character, no religion, etc. Nothing works, they all fail. But God sent his Son Jesus to the world to live a pure and sinless life, to die on the cross for your sins, and to rise again on the third day. If you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and sovereign Lord, that he died on the cross for your sins, and rose on the third day you will be saved and will not go to hell but will go to heaven when you die. In order to accept Him, pray a prayer like this. Dear Father in heaven I accept Jesus as my personal Savior and sovereign Lord. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day. Help me to follow in your ways and not to follow what culture, the media, etc wants to feed me which I now believe. Help me to be conformed to your Son and not conformed to the power of this world. Help me to love those who will now hate me and to pray for those who persecute me and ultimately persecute you. In the name of Jesus, Son of God and Son of Man. Amen.
Gooey, God loves and created you to know him personally. He has a plan for your life. The condition of man is sin (rebellion, passive indifference, etc) against God. Due to that we cannot know God personally or experience His love and plan for our lives. So we try works-based religion, having moral character, no religion, etc. Nothing works, they all fail. But God sent his Son Jesus to the world to live a pure and sinless life, to die on the cross for your sins, and to rise again on the third day. If you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and sovereign Lord, that he died on the cross for your sins, and rose on the third day you will be saved and will not go to hell but will go to heaven when you die. In order to accept Him, pray a prayer like this. Dear Father in heaven I accept Jesus as my personal Savior and sovereign Lord. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day. Help me to follow in your ways and not to follow what culture, the media, etc wants to feed me which I now believe. Help me to be conformed to your Son and not conformed to the power of this world. Help me to love those who will now hate me and to pray for those who persecute me and ultimately persecute you. In the name of Jesus, Son of God and Son of Man. Amen.
First of all your advice is not biblical.
Huh. Funnily enough, I don’t remember claiming my advice was biblical. I gave general life advice that would help both the OP and their sibling.
Jesus12 is not being hung up on her sibling's sexual life, she is concerned and so is Jesus.
Jesus12 is clearly hung up on her sibling’s sexual life. She has no right to be concerned about what he does with his body. If he feels like talking to her about it, then perhaps she has ground to stand on, but otherwise she shouldn’t be involved. I would be fairly disgusted if my own siblings were to try to moralise to me on such matters.
It may be theirs and it has a lot to do with her since she is a Christian and she along with other Christians are being forced to accept the homosexual lifestyle as normal, not wrong and if we do not accept it, we are called bigots, morons, ignorant, haters, etc.
Even Christians are getting annoyed at the persecution complex some of you seem to have. That’s when you know it’s getting bad.
We can also lose our jobs like Barronelle Stutzman, Jack Philips, the Klein family were they even took out the money in their bank account including what they would give to their church, the ones who own a NY farm, etc.
I can’t speak for any individual cases. If the law was broken, they have to face consequences. If the ruling is unfair, they can appeal it or gather support for the law to be changed.
What they do with their body also will affect him as well as the other person.
If both parties wish to engage in consensual, safe sex, I don’t see a problem.
Her brother is not gay, he just believes he is and might even be engaging in the homosexual lifestyle which is against God and goes against the institution of marriage as ordained by God in Genesis and as quoted by Jesus in Matthew and in another gospel which I just forgot.
He ‘believes’ he is gay. Uh huh. Is that like how you believe you’re straight?
She should love her brother as a fellow but he is not gay in God's eyes, yes Jesus loves him but he does not approve of someone going against His design for them. This is not about want she wants them to be, it is what God wants them to be since he made them male and female and according to His plan, those unnatural desires go contrary for His will for their life.
It’s perfectly natural. In fact, rather embarrassingly, I caught my dog at it once. Regardless, something being natural does not make it good and something being unnatural doesn’t make it wrong. Plenty of good things are unnatural: medical care. Some natural things are not so good: poisons and rape. Also, freedom of religion is a thing. Said brother may not particularly care for what his sister thinks her God thinks of him. And unfortunately God seems to be an excuse for people to be bigoted towards their fellow man at times.
Gooey, God loves and created you to know him personally. He has a plan for your life. The condition of man is sin (rebellion, passive indifference, etc) against God.. Due to that we cannot know God personally or experience His love and plan for our lives. So we try works-based religion, having moral character, no religion, etc. Nothing works, they all fail. But God sent his Son Jesus to the world to live a pure and sinless life, to die on the cross for your sins, and to rise again on the third day. If you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and sovereign Lord, that he died on the cross for your sins, and rose on the third day you will be saved and will not go to hell but will go to heaven when you die. In order to accept Him, pray a prayer like this. Dear Father in heaven I accept Jesus as my personal Savior and sovereign Lord. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day. Help me to follow in your ways and not to follow what culture, the media, etc wants to feed me which I now believe. Help me to be conformed to your Son and not conformed to the power of this world. Help me to love those who will now hate me and to pray for those who persecute me and ultimately persecute you. In the name of Jesus, Son of God and Son of Man. Amen.
I’m happy with who I am, thanks.
Huh. Funnily enough, I don’t remember claiming my advice was biblical. I gave general life advice that would help both the OP and their sibling.
Jesus12 is not being hung up on her sibling's sexual life, she is concerned and so is Jesus.
Jesus12 is clearly hung up on her sibling’s sexual life. She has no right to be concerned about what he does with his body. If he feels like talking to her about it, then perhaps she has ground to stand on, but otherwise she shouldn’t be involved. I would be fairly disgusted if my own siblings were to try to moralise to me on such matters.
It may be theirs and it has a lot to do with her since she is a Christian and she along with other Christians are being forced to accept the homosexual lifestyle as normal, not wrong and if we do not accept it, we are called bigots, morons, ignorant, haters, etc.
Even Christians are getting annoyed at the persecution complex some of you seem to have. That’s when you know it’s getting bad.
We can also lose our jobs like Barronelle Stutzman, Jack Philips, the Klein family were they even took out the money in their bank account including what they would give to their church, the ones who own a NY farm, etc.
I can’t speak for any individual cases. If the law was broken, they have to face consequences. If the ruling is unfair, they can appeal it or gather support for the law to be changed.
What they do with their body also will affect him as well as the other person.
If both parties wish to engage in consensual, safe sex, I don’t see a problem.
Her brother is not gay, he just believes he is and might even be engaging in the homosexual lifestyle which is against God and goes against the institution of marriage as ordained by God in Genesis and as quoted by Jesus in Matthew and in another gospel which I just forgot.
He ‘believes’ he is gay. Uh huh. Is that like how you believe you’re straight?
She should love her brother as a fellow but he is not gay in God's eyes, yes Jesus loves him but he does not approve of someone going against His design for them. This is not about want she wants them to be, it is what God wants them to be since he made them male and female and according to His plan, those unnatural desires go contrary for His will for their life.
It’s perfectly natural. In fact, rather embarrassingly, I caught my dog at it once. Regardless, something being natural does not make it good and something being unnatural doesn’t make it wrong. Plenty of good things are unnatural: medical care. Some natural things are not so good: poisons and rape. Also, freedom of religion is a thing. Said brother may not particularly care for what his sister thinks her God thinks of him. And unfortunately God seems to be an excuse for people to be bigoted towards their fellow man at times.
Gooey, God loves and created you to know him personally. He has a plan for your life. The condition of man is sin (rebellion, passive indifference, etc) against God.. Due to that we cannot know God personally or experience His love and plan for our lives. So we try works-based religion, having moral character, no religion, etc. Nothing works, they all fail. But God sent his Son Jesus to the world to live a pure and sinless life, to die on the cross for your sins, and to rise again on the third day. If you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and sovereign Lord, that he died on the cross for your sins, and rose on the third day you will be saved and will not go to hell but will go to heaven when you die. In order to accept Him, pray a prayer like this. Dear Father in heaven I accept Jesus as my personal Savior and sovereign Lord. That he died on the cross for my sins and rose again on the third day. Help me to follow in your ways and not to follow what culture, the media, etc wants to feed me which I now believe. Help me to be conformed to your Son and not conformed to the power of this world. Help me to love those who will now hate me and to pray for those who persecute me and ultimately persecute you. In the name of Jesus, Son of God and Son of Man. Amen.
I’m happy with who I am, thanks.
Admittedly this is all a little more hypothetical that it was before. However, perhaps someone else with a sibling who identifies as LGBT will come here to read the thread for advice, and they will obviously see mine for the stellar wisdom that it is 
On a more serious note, it is good for people to see different opinions on issues like this. It means they can be challenged to look for themselves for the answer rather than just accepting the first they see.
On a more serious note, it is good for people to see different opinions on issues like this. It means they can be challenged to look for themselves for the answer rather than just accepting the first they see.
Is it true that kids are being taught in schools in America that it is ok to choose the gender that they want? They are given the choice as early as possible regardless of their default gender. Homosexuality is tolerated by educators themselves. Next thing we know it becomes a sin to persecute homosexuality.
1. You are confusing gender and sexuality
2. Yes, homosexuality is tolerated by educators. Todiscriminate against LGBT people is against the law, to promote acceptance isconsidered a healthy idea to teach kids (especially when it helps LGBT kids tofeel a greater sense of well-being). Parents can teach their kids whatever theylike at home, but in schools the message has to be secular. The ‘homosexualityis a sin’ message is purely religious, as sin is a religious concept.
3. It is a crime to persecute homosexuals for beinghomosexual…
[Persecute: to pursue with harassing or oppressive treatment, especiallybecause of religious or political beliefs, ethnic or racial origin, genderidentity, or sexual orientation (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/persecute)]
2. Yes, homosexuality is tolerated by educators. Todiscriminate against LGBT people is against the law, to promote acceptance isconsidered a healthy idea to teach kids (especially when it helps LGBT kids tofeel a greater sense of well-being). Parents can teach their kids whatever theylike at home, but in schools the message has to be secular. The ‘homosexualityis a sin’ message is purely religious, as sin is a religious concept.
3. It is a crime to persecute homosexuals for beinghomosexual…
[Persecute: to pursue with harassing or oppressive treatment, especiallybecause of religious or political beliefs, ethnic or racial origin, genderidentity, or sexual orientation (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/persecute)]
Discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is wrong, yes.
Children begin to explore their sexuality at around puberty. This is why you see Gay-Straight Alliances in high schools; the vast majority of teenagers are not asexual. They need to be well educated on sexual health, contraception and differing sexualities for this reason. Some teenagers will find they are attracted to their own sex/gender. You can't tell or promote to anyone what their orientation should be (and in fact this is a greater problem in Christian communities in which heterosexuality is forced upon non-heterosexual people). [Note: Only people above the age of consent should be having sex. 'Exploring one's sexuality' is simply having questions and discovering attractions and new feelings in this case.]
Children begin to explore their sexuality at around puberty. This is why you see Gay-Straight Alliances in high schools; the vast majority of teenagers are not asexual. They need to be well educated on sexual health, contraception and differing sexualities for this reason. Some teenagers will find they are attracted to their own sex/gender. You can't tell or promote to anyone what their orientation should be (and in fact this is a greater problem in Christian communities in which heterosexuality is forced upon non-heterosexual people). [Note: Only people above the age of consent should be having sex. 'Exploring one's sexuality' is simply having questions and discovering attractions and new feelings in this case.]