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[Mitspa]

Kuddos Mitspa you are talking about love, compassion and kindness....applause.... But truly we shouldn't be mean to anybody.

God gives grace to the humble but resist the proud ... I don't see pride here as much as I see a elderly man who wants to be heard.

 

[Mitspa]

Must've been the Sushi.

Am I wrong?

 

[coby2]

God gives grace to the humble but resist the proud ... I don't see pride here as much as I see a elderly man who wants to be heard.

Can very well be but it's clearly time to make a whip now.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qqaf8cOXoqI

 

[Mitspa]

Can very well be but it's clearly time to make a whip now.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qqaf8cOXoqI

Well when he starts trying to pervert the Lords church and teach folks to commit sins against the temple...I make a whip..until then I see an older guy who is looking for folks to hear what he believes he is seeing and not resisted biblical correction to this point in my judgment.

 

[Ariel82]

the church i went to was preaching that one should get as perfect as one could, say 95 percent perfect and then God would pour out his spirit upon that person. this is against the gospel, because we are made perfect in Jesus Christ, in the finished work Jesus did on calvary. Even though they believe in the finished work that Jesus did on calvary, their preaching contradicts that and draws one out of the protection of the new covenant. But that's not why I left, I left because that preaching was driving me nuts, and because while praising god in the dance, I had a vision of Jesus motioning me to come out of the church with his extended hand and index finger. I figured out the danger of their preaching later while listening to Jimmy Swaggert. I like some of the preaching of the Jimmy Swaggart team, but not all of it, I like some of the music, but most of it is rock and roll so I don't listen to that. I just watch him with the volume off and play anointed music to praise God in the dance to. it's been a tough adjustment having no church to go to (no church would let me in the door because I have a dancing angel and have to praise God in the dance. But I do have the wife and we sort of have a church between the two of us watching Jimmy swaggart. At least we are getting fed better than I was in the church I was going to. I can't be stoic in church, I have 31 years experience in praising God in the dance with abandonment for an hour or more a service. So I'm in a hard place right now, but Im adjusting, and I believe God will show me the way.\

That makes sense. Got to go but will read rest later. Know that you continue to be in my prayers and hope God leads you to a Spirit filled church where you can grow in Him.

 

[Mitspa]

I'm sure if he was promoting the gay agenda in his visions, certain folks on this forum would be taking notes as if it was strait from god.

 

[coby2]

Well when he starts trying to pervert the Lords church and teach folks to commit sins against the temple...I make a whip..until then I see an older guy who is looking for folks to hear what he believes he is seeing and not resisted biblical correction to this point in my judgment.

I see another guy posting nonsense posts too. First we have a catholic priest who talks like a mocking atheist troll, next day a bunch of angels, of which one is called Sonja. It must not be getting any crazier. Wonder what we have tomorrow.
Ah whatever. Go talk to him if you want to. I'll just listen to some music instead.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=krIus0i9xn8

 

[Mitspa]

I see another guy posting nonsense posts too. First we have a catholic priest who talks like a mocking atheist troll, next day a bunch of angels, of which one is called Sonja. It must not be getting any crazier. Wonder what we have tomorrow.
Ah whatever. Go talk to him if you want to. I'll just listen to some music instead.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=krIus0i9xn8

All I have seen is what he has posted here...and maybe he does have some mental issues? Does only gay folks deserve some understanding?

 

[coby2]

All I have seen is what he has posted here...and maybe he does have some mental issues? Does only gay folks deserve some understanding?

No but I don't believe this is real.

 

[angel2u2]

I THINK Ellen g White claims she had encounters with angels and they gave her direction.

so did Abraham and sara.

 

[angel2u2]

angel2u2 being honest I am sceptical about the Angels having conversations
with you. Is it possible that you are being deceived or that you are
attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Angels.

I think you need to consider the possibility of the above.

Yes there is genuine tongues, visions and dreams and I have seen and
heard some things directly and indirectly that would either have people
calling me a heretic or have them stood in complete awe and amazement at
God - depending on which side of the debate they are on. So I would be
the last person to automatically dismiss another person's experiences outright.

But there are also counterfeit tongue, visions and dreams. Or a person might genuinely
get a vision from God but get confused about it and acknowledge it in a wrong way.

Personally I would seek to converse with Jesus who is far above the Angels, although he
became a little lower than them here on earth. But Jesus is the way the truth and the
life.


The dancing/rejoicing with Angels by the way.

Some may not understand it but the Angels do rejoice over us, but more so when
they see the work of Christ in us.

Two years ago I went to a Christian conference and during the break time, there
was a toddler their maybe 3-4 who was spinning around and jiggling about laughing.
Someone came up and said they had just got a picture of the toddler dancing with
Angels.

A few years ago a worship team from another church was rehearsing with drums,
guitar, keyboard etc and recording the rehearsal. They were the only ones in the
church. When they played the recording back you could hear their rehearsal but in the
background was the sound of a massive choir singing with the sweetest voices ever,
over the top of the music, kind of like a choir of school boys or of adults with
higher pitched voices. Every note was perfectly in tune and in harmony.
Ive heard that recording myself. It's unexplainable in human terms but the
worship band were convinced it was a choir of Angels.

I think it is impossible for anyone to believe me because they do not have the experiences that I have had. I have praised God in the dance with abandonment t for over 30 years., while my fellow church members praised God in the dance stoically. I have been soaring in the spirit in praise to God for decades, while most all other christians have never even done it once. I seriously doubt that God would have opened up the angelic realm to me if I hadn't done these things. And it's not because I am better than any one else, it's because i read the word of God, and what the 7 or 8 different words in the OT mean. they all are translated as dance, but they each have different meanings. such as round dance (social dancing), twisting, turning, bending, leaping, stamping like a ram whirling. And i did these things cause the bible says, everyone else ignores it. that's not my fault. it's not my fault that no one believes me either, no one believed Jeremiah either. I'm taking my stand on the unadulterated word of 'god that says these things.
Most people interpret ps 149,, and 150 that says 'let them praise the lord in the dance" to mean "stop anyone from praising the lord in the dance." that's not my fault, it's not my fault that I believe what god said in ps. 149,150. (actually the hebrew word means round dance , and not dance but that's another story). i'm going to continue to believe God even if no one else does.

 

[Angela_grace]

Angels do not turn into Jesus. I know you're my elder. But that doesn't biblical.

 

[Mitspa]

so did Abraham and sara.

Yes but Ellen g white is clearly lying..that's the point

 

[Mitspa]

No but I don't believe this is real.

So u think this fellow is not a real person ?

 

[angel2u2]

Angels do not turn into Jesus. I know you're my elder. But that doesn't biblical.

2 Corinthians 3:18 - And, we all, with unveiled face, receiving and reflecting, the glory of the Lord, into the same image, are being transformed, from glory into glory, - even as from a Spirit that is Lord.

angels, just like humans, when receiving and reflecting the glory of the Lord are transformed into the same image as Jesus.

abandon yourself in praising God in the dance and you will experience it.

note that it says, "even as from a spirit'. Well there is no indefinite article in NT Greek so it really says 'even as from spirit". Angels are spirit.
so the bible does say that angels turn into Jesus, and they do so when they reflect the glory of the Lord to me or whoever abandons themselves in praise to God.

 

[angel2u2]

i did a modicum of checking here, and it appears that the literal greek reading is "lord spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:18 - 18 But we all, looking on the glory of the Lord, with unveiled face, are transformed , translated ‘transfigured’ in Matthew 17:2 and Mark 9:2. according to the same image from glory to glory, even as by [the] Lord [the] Spirit.


so the literal reading is apparently, 'even as by Lord Spirit. since angels are the lord's spirits, that wording of the verse would include angels and exclude humans. but the first part, 'we with unveiled faces" would mean us humans.

 

[Mitspa]

i did a modicum of checking here, and it appears that the literal greek reading is "lord spirit."
2 Corinthians 3:18 - 18 But we all, looking on the glory of the Lord, with unveiled face, are transformed , translated ‘transfigured’ in Matthew 17:2 and Mark 9:2. according to the same image from glory to glory, even as by [the] Lord [the] Spirit.


so the literal reading is apparently, 'even as by Lord Spirit. since angels are the lord's spirits, that wording of the verse would include angels and exclude humans. but the first part, 'we with unveiled faces" would mean us humans.

Wrong...it clearly reads as by the Spirit of the Lord... I have defended you to a degree to this point ...but don't play games with the Word of God ...kind sir

 

[angel2u2]

Wrong...it clearly reads as by the Spirit of the Lord... I have defended you to a degree to this point ...but don't play games with the Word of God ...kind sir

Note that the is in brackets twice [the]. The brackets indicate that the is not in the text.

2 Corinthians 3:18 - ημεις δε παντες ανακεκαλυμμενω προσωπω την δοξαν κυριου κατοπτριζομενοι την αυτην εικονα μεταμορφουμεθα απο δοξης εις δοξαν καθαπες απο κυριου πνευματος .

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κυριου πνευματος means spirit lord just like Darby translates it. there is no definite or indefinite article in the greek text.

 

[angel2u2]

That makes sense. Got to go but will read rest later. Know that you continue to be in my prayers and hope God leads you to a Spirit filled church where you can grow in Him.

thank you for your prayers.

 

[angel2u2]

I think2 cor 3.18 is hitting some nerves. but let me say this, when one abandon's oneself in praise to God, one is denying oneself so that the Lord can reflect his glory off of that person. A person who praises God in the dance but is all concerned about what others will think of how he dances, will not be abandoning himself to the Lord, he will not be dying to self, and as a result the lord will not be able to reflect his glory off of that person. Get self out of your praise to God, abandon yourself to him and he will reflect his glory off of you.

HALLELUJAH