Dude,you are still oblivious to rev 14's gathering DURING THE GT.
That ELIMINATES ALL POSSIBILITY of a resurrection of 1 thes 4 AFTER THE GT.
Are you being obtuse,or do you really not comprehend the dead in Christ have to rise before the living?
I understand that the dead rise first and have repeated it over and over.
The resurrection is on the LAST DAY. Last, means last!!! There is no one rising when Christ comes. Christ gathers His ELECT. They are gathered to Him in Jerusalem. The return of Christ (one and only) which is AKA,
the Second Coming comes after the Tribulation. The Great Tribulation again is the Islamic Northern Army attack on Israel led by the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition, King of the North.
If you study Mat 13 you will see full agreement. You have a gathering (not a rapture) of the wheat and tares. There is no resurrection mentioned in Mat 13 or Mat 24, correct? THIS SHOULD BE A BIG CLUE TO YOU.
Let's study Rev 14 together, shall we?
The chapter begins with the Lamb standing on Mt. Zion with the 144K. This is the 2nd coming. This cannot be your pre-trib rapture because according to you, Christ doesn't touch down for the rapture. According to my view this is the second coming, the angels were sent out to gather the ELECT from the 4 winds. Since this is the Second Coming, the Tribulation (Attack of Israel) is over!! Israel has been defeated and is populated with mostly Muslim (tares). Christ is now in Jerusalem with His 144K and they make quick work of the invaders.
Thus we are here in time and these verses go together:
Mat 24: [SUP]31 [/SUP]And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Rev 14: Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads.
Christ has returned, the 144K have been gathered to Him. The Millennium Reign begins. Keep in mind, Christ must reign until He defeats all enemies.
1 Cor 15: [SUP]25 [/SUP]For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. [SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
During His 1,000 year reign, Christ wages war with all those who oppose Him. He defeats them, He is here for the destruction of Babylon/Islam. He warns the people not to support or worship Islam and to not take the mark of the northern army.
Rev 14:[SUP] 6 [/SUP]Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— [SUP]7 [/SUP]saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
See that? Christ is here and the gospel is being preached. This is part of His reigning. As He defeats, He preaches and teaches just as before winning souls.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”
Babylon ISLAM has fallen!! See that Brother? This agrees with the first verse of Rev 18. Christ announces the fall of Babylon. Babylon falls in one day. God's people are first warned to get out of the way then we see this.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
Now that the religion, Islam, has been utterly destroyed, we see it announced.
After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen...
There is only one "angel" who can illuminate the earth with His glory and that is Christ. He reigns for 1,000 years. We know little about this period other than what is in Eze 40-48 and a little at the end of Isaiah. We know that at the end of His reign, Satan is let loose, the nations are deceived again and God burns them on the spot. Then we have the rest of Rev 14. We have the harvest. First the good, then the bad as Rev 14 gives the order.
Now pay close attention. In Rev 14, the good is harvested first, right? But in Mat 13, the tares are first gathered. So, the order is reversed for after the millennium. Therefore the resurrection is just before the harvest of the good Rev 14:14-16. God comes down just as Paul teaches in 1 Thes 4 bringing all the souls in heaven to receive their resurrected bodies.
Death is the last thing Christ defeats. The resurrection comes after all who will die have died.