Go and sin no more

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Ya....Jesus told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more. I am sure that she lived a life of purity from that moment on. Kind of like I have done. I sort of have this sinless perfection thing down to a T. When I'm out in the world among the unwashed and sinful heathens, I find great joy in spreading the love of Jesus by telling them that hell awaits them, that in their current state, God hates them, that He considers them His enemy. That they all need to clean up their act and accept the love of God, who currently hates them.
 

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Before He told her go and sin no more, she got a revelation of the heart of God for her.

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Before He told her go and sin no more, she got a revelation of the heart of God for her.

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Exactly..Jesus gave her "acceptance grace " first even though the law said to stone her. Jesus would be today classified as being antinomian ....a lawless grace giver ...even though grace teaches one how to live godly in this present world...:)....I'm sure that lady sinned again after that encounter with the Lord had that she became a believer in Him and was born again after He rose from the dead.
 
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I'm sure Jesus would have wanted her to live a sinless life, but what I think he said to her was, 'Go and commit adultery no more'. In grace, which he showed her, that's not that hard to do.
 
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I'm sure Jesus would have wanted her to live a sinless life, but what I think he said to her was, 'Go and commit adultery no more'. In grace, which he showed her, that's not that hard to do.
Let me ask you, I was told the woman taken in adultery passage was not in the original manuscripts, have you heard, or do you have anything on that?
 
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Let me ask you, I was told the woman taken in adultery passage was not in the original manuscripts, have you heard, or do you have anything on that?
I have heard that, but not done research. IMO the story is so typical of Christ.
 

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most don't realize they brought her to Him to trap Him, You see they were testing Him to see whether or not he really knew the law... ( Lev 20:10
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.


you see these people didn't care about her life or the law, they wanted to trap our Savior... I believe what he wrote on the ground was "where is the man" then each from the eldest to the youngest dropped their stone and walked away convicted in there sin...

 
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most don't realize they brought her to Him to trap Him, You see they were testing Him to see whether or not he really knew the law... ( Lev 20:10
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, evenhe that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.


you see these people didn't care about her life or the law, they wanted to trap our Savior... I believe what he wrote on the ground was "where is the man" then each from the eldest to the youngest dropped their stone and walked away convicted in there sin...

Maybe he was a friend of theirs? This man?
 

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I was always curious what Jesus was drawing in the dirt and why he was drawing in it
 

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I was always curious what Jesus was drawing in the dirt and why he was drawing in it
One day we will know, but it could be anything, even the number of times they had paid for her services!
 
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The text of Jeremiah 17:13 is also applicable to the situation. "LORD, you are the hope of Israel; all who forsake you will be put to shame. Those who turn away from you will be written in the dust because they have forsaken the LORD, the spring of living water."
 

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By oldhermit

I. The Pharisees Attempt to Trap Jesus on a Point of Law, 1-11.

But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. “Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?” They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him.”

A. The setting


1. Jesus is in the Temple

2. He already has an audience of listeners.
3. He is seated to teach in good rabbinic fashion.

B. A woman caught in adultery is brought before Jesus by the Jewish rulers.


1. These rulers are the ones responsible for judging such matters so, why bring her to Jesus?

2. The scribes and the Pharisees hold no regard for Jesus as either a teacher of the Law nor a judge so, why bring her to Jesus?
3. Jesus in not a Levitical priest so he as no legal grounds for passing judgment in a criminal case, so, why bring him to Jesus?
Since all of this is true, there is no reason why these rulers would have brought this woman to Jesus to decide her fate. You sort of begin to sense a trap.

C. Adultery and the Law of Moses


1.
Leviticus 20:10, If there is a man who commits adultery with another man's wife, one who commits adultery with his friend's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.”

2. Deuteronomy 22:23-34, “If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.”
The accusation was that this woman had been caught in adultery, in the very act.” So, where was the man? Why was he not also charged? Why did they only bring the woman? It would seem that these men were not so interested in justice and protecting the Law as they appeared. This entire exercise was nothing more than a hypocritical charade. They have no intrest in the Law. They care only about creating an accusation about Jesus.

D. What were the facts of the case?

1. The woman was caught red handed as it were. There is no question of her guilt for she had been
caught in the very act of adultery.

2. The penalty under the Law was certain death. There was to be no appeal.
3. The Pharisees had an obligation under the law to stone both the man and the woman to death. That would have satisfied justice under the Law.

E.
The legal dilemma – “Now in the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?”It also commanded them to stone the man. They must have forgotten that part of the commandment. Now, there are only two possible options to this case. She must either be stoned or released. In their minds, no matter which answer Jesus gave they would be able to accuse him either before the Sanhedrin or before Pilate. If Jesus said not to stone her, he violates the commandment and they could bring charges against him before the Sanhedrin. If he says to stone her then they can bring charges against him before Rome because Rome had taken away the right of capitol punishment form the Jews. Only Rome could condemn a person to death. They felt they finally had him either way.

F. Jesus' response – “But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground.”

1.
Jesus has no intention of involving himself in this fiasco. This matter was their's to judge, not his. So he just stooped down and began to doodling in the sand ignoring their question.

2. What did the Law say about casting the first stone? Deuteronomy 17:7, “The hand of the witnesses shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.” It was the legal duty of the one witness who brought the accusation to cast the first stone against the accused. Jesus simply offers a challenge.
3. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” It may well be inferred from the text that Jesus is leveling an accusation of adultery against each of these men. “The one among you who is not guilty of the same cast the first stone.” This would over rule any hypocritical condemnation of this woman. How do you condemn someone of a crime for which you yourself are guilty. This must have really struck home because, “When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones....” By this one simple statement from Jesus, their scheme had completely fallen apart.

G. Jesus refuses to condemn the woman.

And He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” With no witnesses to accuse her, Jesus simply says, “I do not condemn you, either.” The text does not say that Jesus pardoned her, nor does it say that he forgave her. This would have been contrary to the Law. By the provisions of the law in matters involving the death penalty he cannot do otherwise. The Law says, “On the evidence of two witnesses or three witnesses, he who is to die shall be put to death; he shall not be put to death on the evidence of one witness,” Deuteronomy 17:6. Even though Jesus, by virtue of the fact that he could have known the facts of her guilt if he so chose, she still cannot be put to death on the testimony of only one witness and with no other witnesses to accuse her, the law cannot judge her. He has to let her go; but, Jesus sends her away with this warning, “Go. From now on sin no more.” In other words, “You are free to go so go and don't do it again!”
 
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I was trying to catch what was happpening there and Im not convinced I am, but as I was trying to reason it through other scriptural truths, for example they say to him

John 8:5 Now Moses in the law """commanded us""" that such should be stoned:
but what sayest thou?

John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted himself up, and said unto them,he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

John 8:8
And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them
after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them;


John 8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted of their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

Romans 2:15
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another)

Or like earlier here

Romans 2:1
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.


John 8:7 So when they continued asking him,
he lifted himself up, and said unto them, he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her


Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may
become guilty before God.

But so does this to a degree

John 8:9
And they which heard it, being convicted of their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

So I thought, maybe I need to nix out Romans 2:15 in that comparison to make it fit more perfectly because they were clearly under the law (saying Moses says, but what do you say) and always seeking to trap him, but in that particular picture
Romans 3:19 might be the better fit. It would seem to be somewhat comparable (or better yet contrasted with this picture given Jesus finger (shown writing) could be understood to be the finger of God (as shown in John 8:6 & Luke 11:20 ) as he is moved to write on the ground. I had thought, one could be written in the earth but also that the ground can also stand for hearts but there are hearts of stone (which would be removed) as well. But these two would also be contrasted in 2 Cr 3:3

Just these two

John 8:8
And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

John 8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted of their own conscience,

I just remember going, "wow, thats so cool". How "he lifts himself up" between Moses, and stoops back down to write again. I havent looked at this one for quite a while, I need to clean this one up and look at it again.


 
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most don't realize they brought her to Him to trap Him, You see they were testing Him to see whether or not he really knew the law... ( Lev 20:10
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, evenhe that committeth adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.


you see these people didn't care about her life or the law, they wanted to trap our Savior... I believe what he wrote on the ground was "where is the man" then each from the eldest to the youngest dropped their stone and walked away convicted in there sin...
That one makes the most sense out of any suggestion i have yet heard on the subject. It's SO Jesus to a T. Humor, wit, salt, straight to the point yet with a hint of subtlety thrown in for effect.
 
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Let me ask you, I was told the woman taken in adultery passage was not in the original manuscripts, have you heard, or do you have anything on that?
I've heard/read this a couple of times. Supposedly it was an oral tradition that got thrown in a little later.
 
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I was always curious what Jesus was drawing in the dirt and why he was drawing in it
A tic-tac-toe board.

The first time I heard that story as a young kid, I had just started playing tic-tac-toe, and we often played the game in the dirt. I have been stuck with that image in my head ever since.
 
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God's love sent Christ to die so we could be saved. He does not hate the sinner but the sin... I'd never want God if I heard your message OP.. You're very smug, and it's obvious you don't know God personally... Bible warns about bringing judgement on yourself. Jesus saves but is King and will not let those who caused harm to his go unpunished.. We all will stand before Him as judge. You'd be wise to care about that now.
 

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God's love sent Christ to die so we could be saved. He does not hate the sinner but the sin... I'd never want God if I heard your message OP.. You're very smug, and it's obvious you don't know God personally... Bible warns about bringing judgement on yourself. Jesus saves but is King and will not let those who caused harm to his go unpunished.. We all will stand before Him as judge. You'd be wise to care about that now.


Hello HisHolly - welcome to CC



I’ve been here since Sept. 2014 and found Sirk to be quite the opposite of smug and I’m also quite sure he knows God personally. These are my conclusions after perhaps a year and a half – I’ve not read all his missives but enough to know he is a fine God fearing man.


This OP I suspect has a bit of a backstory which u may perhaps not be aware of - but there is a bit of tongue in cheek here. Give him time - Sirk is an acquired taste!
 
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Just these two

John 8:8 [/COLOR]And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

John 8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted of their own conscience,

I just remember going, "wow, thats so cool". How "he lifts himself up" between Moses, and stoops back down to write again. I havent looked at this one for quite a while, I need to clean this one up and look at it again.


Interesting. Man is just dirt, so the parallel between writing the law in dirt and in our hearts.