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Born_Again

Born_Again

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MsSuzanna said:
Lets stick with the Bible.
Not one scripture in all that thetoric. Here you go:

John 3:36,Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him."

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Okay, lets turn this into a genuine discussion before it gets out of control... Has anyone defined God's wrath? Lets define His wrath and take it from there.
 
MsSuzanna

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You only need control your own actions from what I have seen. I was discussing. I shared scripture.
 
hornetguy

hornetguy

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What does that song say..."til on that cross where Jesus died, the wrath of God was satisfied.."
 
Willie-T

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Born_Again said:
Okay, lets turn this into a genuine discussion before it gets out of control... Has anyone defined God's wrath? Lets define His wrath and take it from there.
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THAT, alone would blow many people's minds if they actually knew the different things "God's Wrath" was in both the OT and the NT. We truly have some people here who, I am sure, only understand it to mean God clobbering people.
 
MsSuzanna

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I wasnt aware a song trumped Gods word! LOL

Being eternally separated from God is WRATH. The lake of fire is WRATH.
 
Willie-T

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hornetguy said:
What does that song say..."til on that cross where Jesus died, the wrath of God was satisfied.."
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I honestly can't sing those words, they are so far from the truth of God that I understand.

They are about as bad as the words: "When He shall come with trumpet sound, Oh may I then in Him be found."
 
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Gr8grace

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Willie-T said:
THAT, alone would blow many people's minds if they actually knew the different things "God's Wrath" was in both the OT and the NT. We truly have some people here who, I am sure, only understand it to mean God clobbering people.
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Bingo. Gods "wrath" in many cases in scripture is His GRACE. Really Willie, I think you know as I do.......The Whole bible reveal's His grace........Even in the most "Disturbing" Places it reveal's His Grace. It just takes a spiritual understanding and not a carnal understanding.
 
hornetguy

hornetguy

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MsSuzanna said:
I wasnt aware a song trumped Gods word! LOL

Being eternally separated from God is WRATH. The lake of fire is WRATH.
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I don't think it "trumps" it...it explains it. We all DESERVE God's wrath, but Jesus' death satisfied God's wrath toward us sinners, if we just accept it.
 
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Gr8grace

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MsSuzanna said:
I wasnt aware a song trumped Gods word! LOL

Being eternally separated from God is WRATH. The lake of fire is WRATH.
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Ok, once again, What was your username when you were banned from this site?
 
hornetguy

hornetguy

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Romans 5:6-11

Good explanation..
 
JesusLives

JesusLives

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Willie-T said:
I guess I'm still not following you. Even if you do not accept Jesus, He STILL loves you, and is hurt that you have chosen whatever punishment might come to us at the end of our lives, instead of wanting to live with Him. "...... He loved us.... while we were yet sinners." We do not have the power to change His love into hate just because we are rebellious.
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Amen preach Brother.
 
JesusLives

JesusLives

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p_rehbein said:
Willie............have you "linked" this thread to the one on the BDF about the Great Commission? :)

Just wondering............(stirring the pot)
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Honestly I think, (once in a while it happens Blond thinking)..... that willie wanted a more Good News thread to speak in as the other one was trashed big time with fighting etc..... Blond was happy to make the trade of threads and exit stag left the other one....
 
Willie-T

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JesusLives said:
Honestly I think, (once in a while it happens Blond thinking)..... that willie wanted a more Good News thread to speak in as the other one was trashed big time with fighting etc..... Blond was happy to make the trade of threads and exit stag left the other one....
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You know me well, Dar. That was exactly my desire.
 
JesusLives

JesusLives

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JesusLives said:
Honestly I think, (once in a while it happens Blond thinking)..... that willie wanted a more Good News thread to speak in as the other one was trashed big time with fighting etc..... Blond was happy to make the trade of threads and exit stag left the other one....
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Exit stage left... not stag....lol
 
Sirk

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JesusLives said:
Honestly I think, (once in a while it happens Blond thinking)..... that willie wanted a more Good News thread to speak in as the other one was trashed big time with fighting etc..... Blond was happy to make the trade of threads and exit stag left the other one....
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Me too......
 
JesusLives

JesusLives

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Willie-T said:
I figured you just staggered off to the left somewhere.
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I blame it on the computer it just doesn't spell words right that are swimming around in this Blond head....It leaves letters off here and there....I think it is a Pagan computer..... But for all it's little faults (operator included) I haven't wanted to throw it across the room like I threatened to throw the Note Book.....now that was a nasty little computer....I just unplugged it instead....giving it a time out also....lol
 
JesusLives

JesusLives

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Just wanted to add more good news and for those wanting Bible Verses here you go.... Oh...S.....na don't you cry for me I come from Indiana with a kitty cat on my knee.....lol

~John 3:16For God so loved the world, that he agave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 John 4:7Beloved, let us love one another, because love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoeverdoes not lovedoes not knowGod,becauseGodislove. 9This is how God’s love was revealed among us: God sent His one and only Son into the world, so that we might live through Him.…

1 John 4:18There isnofearinlove,butperfectlovedrivesoutfear,becausefearinvolvespunishment.The one whofearshas not been perfectedinlove. 19We love because He first loved us.…
 
JesusLives

JesusLives

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See the Pagan computer did it again only this time ran all the words together.....lol
 
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