Can a So-Called Cafeteria Christian be a True Believer?

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If you choose to believe Christ's divine revelation in in totality, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
I can't believe you just said that....again and again and again and again..etc

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posthuman

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I believe the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man
nope. if you believed it, you would act on it.

it's obvious you don't believe Christ when He said to tell people what He reveals to you, or that you haven't actually had anything revealed.

something else is more important to you. that's what is known in "Christanese" as having an idol.
or being blind.
 
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nope. if you believed it, you would act on it.

it's obvious you don't believe Christ when He said to tell people what He reveals to you, or that you haven't actually had anything revealed.

something else is more important to you. that's what is known in "Christanese" as having an idol.
or being blind.
I believe :cool: the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man, do you :(?
 

posthuman

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I believe :cool: the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man, do you :(?
no, you don't.

i just revealed to you Christ's own command, and you denied it several times and continue to deny it.

you say one thing with your mouth, but what you've actually done is quite different.

why are you being so evasive?
 
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no, you don't.

i just revealed to you Christ's own command, and you denied it several times and continue to deny it.

you say one thing with your mouth, but what you've actually done is quite different.

why are you being so evasive?
I do not deny any of Christ's revealed truth to man. There is nothing evasive about choosing to believe the totality of Christ's revealed truth to man.
 
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no, you don't.

i just revealed to you Christ's own command, and you denied it several times and continue to deny it.

you say one thing with your mouth, but what you've actually done is quite different.

why are you being so evasive?
What do you believe the definition of "Divine Revelation" is, and, do you have to believe the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man in order to get to heaven?
 
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What do you believe the definition of "Divine Revelation" is, and, do you have to believe the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man in order to get to heaven?
Why do you not answer my question about whether we should walk to work or take our lunch?...you know we need specifics..
 

posthuman

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I do not deny any of Christ's revealed truth to man.

prove it.



What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight;
what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.

(Matthew 10:27)​



tell us all what has been divinely revealed to you.
if you can't do that, you're denying the revelation of His written word.
 
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prove it.


What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight;
what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.

(Matthew 10:27)​



tell us all what has been divinely revealed to you.
if you can't do that, you're denying the revelation of His written word.
What do you believe the definition of "Divine Revelation" is, and, do you have to believe the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man in order to get to heaven?
 

posthuman

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What do you believe the definition of "Divine Revelation" is, and, do you have to believe the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man in order to get to heaven?

it's been divinely revealed to me that you're just upset because dinosaurs actually existed and the earth is an oblate spheroid, just like every other planet and star, and the economy didn't crash nor did the world end as you previously falsely prophesied.

and it's pretty boring engaging with your trolling at this point, and offensive watching you reject the words of Jesus.

TTYL
 
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it's been divinely revealed to me that you're just upset because dinosaurs actually existed and the earth is an oblate spheroid, just like every other planet and star, and the economy didn't crash nor did the world end as you previously falsely prophesied.

and it's pretty boring engaging with your trolling at this point, and offensive watching you reject the words of Jesus.

TTYL
What do you believe the definition of "Divine Revelation" is, and, do you have to believe the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man in order to get to heaven?
 
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Dusttobe

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A person can't knowingly deny any of Christ's divine revelations and be a believer.
But there is only one real Christ, no matter how many people pretend to speak for him.
 
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But there is only one real Christ, no matter how many people pretend to speak for him.
and if you deny any of the one real Christ's divine revelation, you will go straight to hell.
 

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and if you deny any of the one real Christ's divine revelation, you will go straight to hell.
In John 3:18, Jesus said - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 
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In John 3:18, Jesus said - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Denial of Christ's divine revelations to man is denial of Christ. This person does not believe and is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
 
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JustWhoIAm

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Can a so-called cafeteria Christian even get to heaven?

A so-called cafeteria Christian is only a partial believer since this person picks and chooses belief based on personal preference and not the totality of Christ's divine revelation to man.

Are you on the road to heaven, or, are you a so-called Cafeteria Christian, a partial believer, choosing to deny Christ's divine revelation to man in its totality?
Denying any part of Christ's mission is folly, obviously. We need to take the whole word into account HOWEVER...

Here's where i see it getting tricky. We are each called to a different set of standards, we have different roles to fulfill.

So enforcing individual doctrines might not be the best idea, not only for that reason, but also for the sake of the larger picture.

"But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."
 
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Denying any part of Christ's mission is folly, obviously. We need to take the whole word into account HOWEVER...

Here's where i see it getting tricky. We are each called to a different set of standards, we have different roles to fulfill.

So enforcing individual doctrines might not be the best idea, not only for that reason, but also for the sake of the larger picture.

"But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."
You are choosing to deny Christ's divine revelation to man in its totality. The punishment, for denying Christ's divine revelation to man in its totality, is absolutely dreadful.
 
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Ephesians 2:8,9
[SUP]8[/SUP]For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; [SUP]9 [/SUP]not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Tell me where in these verses is Salvation based on believing every Divine Revelation from God?

All we see is Grace and Faith being required to receive Salvation and be with the Lord. So why Spherical are you adding your works to receiving Salvation?

You do know its by the Grace from God who has given us the Faith we need to receive Jesus as our Lord and Savior! Not believing every Divine Revelation from God.

By insisting we have to believe in every Divine Revelation from God to receive Salvation, you are teaching a Salvation by Works.

I have read everything you have said and its clear to me you are parroting something someone has told you and not what God has reveled to us in the Scriptures.

Now Spherical show is where God has said in the Scriptures that Salvation is based on believing what is in the Scriptures. Salvation is based only on believing Jesus is God and this belief was given to us from God. God has given us the Faith needed to believe in Him. Our Faith does not come from us, our Faith was given to us by God.