Brexit - Do we stay or do we go

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deleted insulting remarks of POTUS
We're not allowed to insult the worst President in American history? A man who is an enemy of freedom, liberty, common decency, and might I add, Christians world wide? Nice to know.
 

prove-all

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The leadership in the Falkland Islands and in Gibraltar warned that
if Britain leaves it could lose control of both territories.
Brexit could lead to less protection for Falklands and Gibraltar, MPs told - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

The leadership in the Falklands and in Gibraltar fear that if Britain pulled out,
then Argentina (which claims to be the rightful owner of the Falklands)
and Spain (which claims to be the rightful owner of Gibraltar) would both
take advantage of what might be a militarily weaker and more isolated Britain.


They fear that Argentina and Spain would ramp up their aggression against Britain
and try to pry the Falklands and Gibraltar out of London’s control.


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The Falklands and Gibraltar are important Sea Gates the UK can ill afford to lose

Britain has lost control of the Suez Canal, Singapore, its South African ports, Hong Kong,
Malta, Sri Lanka, the Gulf of Guinea, much of its influence in Cyprus and more.
 
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hornetguy

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Yep..... and the US just gave away the Panama Canal a while back.


Oh, and Miri.... I'm not exactly white, either. I'm more a dark beige... browner in summer time. I change colors.... :D
 
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Miri

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Yep..... and the US just gave away the Panama Canal a while back.


Oh, and Miri.... I'm not exactly white, either. I'm more a dark beige... browner in summer time. I change colors.... :D
Ha ha ha, really funny maybe we should start a what colour are you thread. :D
 
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British people will want to get out of the EU as it is just a leach on their country and dictatorial in nature....but the vote will be rigged (as most voting is electronic these days) to keep the UK in the EU. They will be pressured by America to stay in the EU because the corporate banksters in both America and europe need Britain to stay in the EU to provide loans to non-functioning countries such as Greece to help the banksters charge massive interest and make more wealth for themselves while the common people will not see any of that or benefit from it.....
 
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Miri

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British people will want to get out of the EU as it is just a leach on their country and dictatorial in nature....but the vote will be rigged (as most voting is electronic these days) to keep the UK in the EU. They will be pressured by America to stay in the EU because the corporate banksters in both America and europe need Britain to stay in the EU to provide loans to non-functioning countries such as Greece to help the banksters charge massive interest and make more wealth for themselves while the common people will not see any of that or benefit from it.....


Aw but this is different, it's not the politicians making the decision.
Everyone in the UK gets to vote on it later in June.

I do think though the remain camp will win though.

The whole issue of leaving or remaining in the EU is so far removed from
the lives of many ordinary people that I think a high percentage won't bother to vote.

Many elderly, young students, those struggling with life, many unemployed etc, others who
are just going about their own business with little interest in politics, probably won't vote
or have the will to find out what it is all about.

That leaves those who follow the news or believe they have a vested interest in the matter.
Who will cast their vote. Plus there is always a percentage of people who vote but don't have a
clue what they are voting for and will probably just vote the same way as their husband , wife,
parents etc.

That plus the fact that David Cameron posted a leaflet out to every household stressing his
opinion of the need to stay in the EU, while denying the leave camp the same opportunity.
Probably means many will just read that one leaflet and nothing else and will vote to remain.

Politicians aren't daft are they. They might not be wise but their not daft when it comes to
using propaganda for their own purposes.
 
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Its ruining America's.
Yes all those Mexicans who mow your lawns, wash your dishes, tend your gardens, clean your toilets and fellatiate your businessmen are ruining the economic powerhouse whose financial foundations were built upon genocide and land-theft first, slavery second and the extortion of warring nations third.

My heart bleeds for you. Poor middle class white dude.

America have been ruining Mexico's economy (along with most of the rest of South America) for decades!
 
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We're not allowed to insult the worst President in American history? A man who is an enemy of freedom, liberty, common decency, and might I add, Christians world wide? Nice to know.
Worst President ever? Really??

Let's see.

Withdraw troops from Iraq (what a majority of Americans wanted).
Began the rejuvenation of a stale and unhealthy relationship with Cuba (bringing an economic relationship of untold future value).
Laid the foundation's for universal health care in the only first world, highly developed nation that still doesnt have it (but was blocked by the GOP by going the full way).
Attempted many times to instate simple compulsory background checks and fair psychological evaluations for firearms use (more than fair, and right, and entirely within the tenets of a contitution that allows for firearm ownership provided only that it's purpose is continuation of a WELL REGULATED public militia as per the EXACT phrasing of the 2nd Amendment).
Created the largest boost in the US employment record in my lifetime.
Championed legislation making it illegal to pay a woman a different wage for the same job as a man, in the same firm.
Created an internationalized basis for common core curriculum in essential subjects like maths and the hard sciences.
Reduced the national debt and improved America's credit status after Bush's disastrous presidency.
Re-iterated that secular rights are constitutional and that they extend to every party (via the refusal to allow taxation on religious houses, and also by the allowance of homosexual couples to marry in ceremonies of the state, while alloeig churches of the Christian faith to retain their rights to refuse such a service as per their mission and purpose).

I'd say Obama has done pretty well, compared to Bush, who led the country into the worst economic recession since the Wall Street crash; declared two wars the US couldnt afford; and left a trail of unemployment, outsourced industry and detrimental foreign relations which put average Americans back decades.

You know it wasn't so long ago Americans could walk the streets of much of the world without having to worry about having their heads severed. You have the Bush family mostly to thank for the gigantic leap backwards.

Obama had his work cut out.

But hey, you're a Republican? Well congratulations. The fact that you've failed to see the light means the only stubborn decision you have left is Donald "I-Would-Sleep-With-My-Daughter" Trump.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Ingerland, why are you here? You are not a Christian so the purpose of your visit is?

Are you simply here to troll or just disagree with everything anyone is saying? I will never understand why a non-Christian would feel the need to frequent a Christian forum unless it's to argue or have a little fun at the expense of the genuine.

I would say it's fairly obvious that Obama is not a Christian - his policies tell a different story and this is why they do not appeal to your average Chrsitian - American or otherwise. His policies go against God's word AND he has made female restrooms available to men - pedophiles, rapists all and sundry. Gay marriage etc etc. Oh and he is trying to tell the British how to vote in the EU elections. The man is a total moron! You are right about one thing though...Hilary and Trump are no better!
 

hornetguy

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Worst President ever? Really??

Let's see.

Withdraw troops from Iraq (what a majority of Americans wanted).
Began the rejuvenation of a stale and unhealthy relationship with Cuba (bringing an economic relationship of untold future value).
Laid the foundation's for universal health care in the only first world, highly developed nation that still doesnt have it (but was blocked by the GOP by going the full way).
Attempted many times to instate simple compulsory background checks and fair psychological evaluations for firearms use (more than fair, and right, and entirely within the tenets of a contitution that allows for firearm ownership provided only that it's purpose is continuation of a WELL REGULATED public militia as per the EXACT phrasing of the 2nd Amendment).
Created the largest boost in the US employment record in my lifetime.
Championed legislation making it illegal to pay a woman a different wage for the same job as a man, in the same firm.
Created an internationalized basis for common core curriculum in essential subjects like maths and the hard sciences.
Reduced the national debt and improved America's credit status after Bush's disastrous presidency.
Re-iterated that secular rights are constitutional and that they extend to every party (via the refusal to allow taxation on religious houses, and also by the allowance of homosexual couples to marry in ceremonies of the state, while alloeig churches of the Christian faith to retain their rights to refuse such a service as per their mission and purpose).

I'd say Obama has done pretty well, compared to Bush, who led the country into the worst economic recession since the Wall Street crash; declared two wars the US couldnt afford; and left a trail of unemployment, outsourced industry and detrimental foreign relations which put average Americans back decades.

You know it wasn't so long ago Americans could walk the streets of much of the world without having to worry about having their heads severed. You have the Bush family mostly to thank for the gigantic leap backwards.

Obama had his work cut out.

But hey, you're a Republican? Well congratulations. The fact that you've failed to see the light means the only stubborn decision you have left is Donald "I-Would-Sleep-With-My-Daughter" Trump.
You've been indoctrinated well, grasshopper.

Too bad you're about 98% wrong, but that's what comes from allowing the press and the textbook writers to re-write history.

The people that have actually lived it, and paid for it, have a much different view of your "truth", that you got from abstract study and indoctrination.
 

hornetguy

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Yes all those Mexicans who mow your lawns, wash your dishes, tend your gardens, clean your toilets and fellatiate your businessmen are ruining the economic powerhouse whose financial foundations were built upon genocide and land-theft first, slavery second and the extortion of warring nations third.

My heart bleeds for you. Poor middle class white dude.

America have been ruining Mexico's economy (along with most of the rest of South America) for decades!
Actually, the proper term would be "fellate".....

And since calling you an idiot would violate the "be nice" clause here, I won't do that. But.... there is no clause against my THINKING you're an idiot...... so.... I'm thinking you're an idiot.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Big day for us Brits today, I think we need prayer and also the rest of Europe. I do not have a good feeling about how it will go but ultimately God is in control and nothing will come as a surprise to Him.

I believe that whatever the result this referendum will mark the beginning of the end of the US "superstate". Lots of discord coming from other members wanting their own referendums.

Please pray for the situation? Many thanks. MPW
 
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I wonder if there are any Christians who would take part in the political affairs of mankind and vote for any human government to rule over them? if there are any the question I would ask is WHY?


Personally, I have no faith or belief in any human rulership or government, all human governments ultimately fail the people they rule over. What a mess.
 

Agricola

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Time to gain control of our own country again. People are stupid for making decisions based on just a couple of policies, like the young man on the train who was proudly showing off in front of his lefty liberal female companion, saying how anyone who votes for Leave is racist.

This is not like an election that you just pick a party based on your favourite political passion. This is about allowing our country to be raped of money and resources without anything in return and to give up sovereignty. Each year that goes by more powers and laws will be taken from us and made by the EU, which we have little or no influence over.

We ran an Empire without having to answer to Europe. We are the 5th strongest economy in the world, not some little tiny island that would go under if it left the EU. We have a Commenwealth and can do a lot better with real trade agreements with them, something we can not do while in the EU.

I could rant on, but those who have not yet voted, get your backsides down to the polling station and vote LEAVE.
 

Agricola

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The leadership in the Falkland Islands and in Gibraltar warned that
if Britain leaves it could lose control of both territories.
Brexit could lead to less protection for Falklands and Gibraltar, MPs told - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

The leadership in the Falklands and in Gibraltar fear that if Britain pulled out,
then Argentina (which claims to be the rightful owner of the Falklands)
and Spain (which claims to be the rightful owner of Gibraltar) would both
take advantage of what might be a militarily weaker and more isolated Britain.


They fear that Argentina and Spain would ramp up their aggression against Britain
and try to pry the Falklands and Gibraltar out of London’s control.


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The Falklands and Gibraltar are important Sea Gates the UK can ill afford to lose

Britain has lost control of the Suez Canal, Singapore, its South African ports, Hong Kong,
Malta, Sri Lanka, the Gulf of Guinea, much of its influence in Cyprus and more.
PROJECT FEAR at work, lets scare people with wild stories about what will happen if we leave the EU.
Seriously all that is bull and lies.

We fought the Argies without EU help, we can do it again, we still have a good military fighting force, especially compared to Argentina.

Gibraltar can not be taken from us without force, I can not see the EU invading Gibraltar simply to spite the UK.

As I said its all scaremongering and work of Project Fear, trying to scare people into staying, when its all lies and no one can tell if it will happen.



Suex Canal, we did not want that built in the first place and of course we gave control up of that as Egypt. Most other colonies wanted self rule, we allowed that, we allow our Commenwealth countries independence, we are not like the EU.
Hong Kong was a different situation, we simply had a 100 year lease on the island which ran out and Chinese did not renew it.
 

Agricola

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I wonder if there are any Christians who would take part in the political affairs of mankind and vote for any human government to rule over them? if there are any the question I would ask is WHY?


Personally, I have no faith or belief in any human rulership or government, all human governments ultimately fail the people they rule over. What a mess.
They only fail if they reject God. If you want to abstain fine, but do not complain about the way of life and the laws of the country you live in as you did not want a say in it. You can be a Christian and be involved with politics with no problems at all.
With your thinking it would mean no Christian nation would have a government and no one in charge and the country would then collapse, we need leaders, we have a right to vote so use it.
 
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Today is the big day ...England becomes a free nation again ...May God keep them and give them new leaders that will have the wisdom to never again join the forces of darkness and evil (EU) ...Amen
 

Demi777

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Today is the big day ...England becomes a free nation again ...May God keep them and give them new leaders that will have the wisdom to never again join the forces of darkness and evil (EU) ...Amen
​Do you really believe that? I dont. They have way to many Muslim Mayors that want the borders open
 
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Mitspa

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​Do you really believe that? I dont. They have way to many Muslim Mayors that want the borders open
If the people vote today to turn back the EU insanity...I think that's a good start to getting England back to some common sense. All the liberals are desperate to keep them in the EU..if the folks vote against the liberals ..it sends a strong message to all those insane mayors
 

Demi777

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If the people vote today to turn back the EU insanity...I think that's a good start to getting England back to some common sense. All the liberals are desperate to keep them in the EU..if the folks vote against the liberals ..it sends a strong message to all those insane mayors

I will bet on a bag of cheetos and oreos that it aint gonna happen