Eternal Security and free choice for the Christian?

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How do eternal security and free will relate together for the Christian

  • I believe that the Christian no longer has free choice in the area of salvation

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  • I believe that when a person becomes a Christian his free choice (will) unites with God's will, thus

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Chester

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How do those of you that believe in eternal security explain the issue of free choice for the Christian? I give several options that I am aware of, but choose option E and explain your answer if your idea is not listed.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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It is one thing to turn on a father who lets you down all the time

It is a far other thing to turn on a God who made the ultimate sacrifice (the cross) to bring you to a relationshipp wiht him, then never lets you down once he saves you..
 
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I believe it's a combination of these 2 choices below.

I believe that when a person becomes a Christian his free choice (will) unites with God's will, thus he cannont choose to deny Christ


I believe that a Christian has free choice, but because of understanding God's love and goodness, the Christian will not choose to deny Christ
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I believe it's a combination of these 2 choices below.

I believe that when a person becomes a Christian his free choice (will) unites with God's will, thus he cannont choose to deny Christ


I believe that a Christian has free choice, but because of understanding God's love and goodness, the Christian will not choose to deny Christ
Sort of like, Because of the understanding of Gods love and goodness, A person can not chose to deny Christ.
makes sense
 

Chester

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I believe it's a combination of these 2 choices below.

I believe that when a person becomes a Christian his free choice (will) unites with God's will, thus he cannont choose to deny Christ


I believe that a Christian has free choice, but because of understanding God's love and goodness, the Christian will not choose to deny Christ

Interesting! I think I have the poll set up so you can choose more than one option if you like. Or, did you vote for just one of the two choices?
 
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The son does remain in the house forever.

John 8:35-36 (NASB)
[SUP]35 [/SUP] "The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever.

[SUP]36 [/SUP] "So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.


We are sons of God now.

Romans 8:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

Galatians 3:26 (KJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. ( not because we never sin )

1 John 3:1 (NASB)
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See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.
 
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valiant

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How do those of you that believe in eternal security explain the issue of free choice for the Christian? I give several options that I am aware of, but choose option E and explain your answer if your idea is not listed.

I can choose to sin of my own will, but I cannot choose never to sin. Thus I am wholly dependent on His mercy.

Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus (Rom 3,24)
 
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I can choose to sin of my own will, but I cannot choose never to sin.
Just take it day by day.

Matthew 6:34
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
 

crossnote

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If you're asking 'Can a Christian reach a point where he ultimately denies Christ, will he lose his salvation?'..then my answer will be hmmm, that's a big CAN.

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Interesting! I think I have the poll set up so you can choose more than one option if you like. Or, did you vote for just one of the two choices?
Oh..sorry..I don't know we could do multiple ones. I'm so used to a poll where you just pick one...like in was in school with "multiple guess" questions.
 

John146

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I believe it's a combination of these 2 choices below.

I believe that when a person becomes a Christian his free choice (will) unites with God's will, thus he cannont choose to deny Christ


I believe that a Christian has free choice, but because of understanding God's love and goodness, the Christian will not choose to deny Christ
All choices are still the choice of the believer with the word of God instructing as the Holy Spirit leads. If a believer is not in the word of God, does not understand the word of God, that believer may get so caught up in the circumstances of this world where they just might deny the Lord Jesus out of anger or fright. Do you actually think all believers are strong enough to face beheading by a hunting knife if they don't deny Christ? I think there are many who would deny the Lord Jesus Christ in a second to save their lives and their family.

The believer's choices will be judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
 
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Scriptureplz

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Peter denied Jesus 3 times, after Jesus told him he would. Yes, a Christian can deny Christ. Though he does not lose salvation for it.
 
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Peter denied Jesus 3 times, after Jesus told him he would. Yes, a Christian can deny Christ. Though he does not lose salvation for it.
Peter had not been born again of the Holy Spirit yet, Jesus said as much. :)
 

notuptome

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How do those of you that believe in eternal security explain the issue of free choice for the Christian? I give several options that I am aware of, but choose option E and explain your answer if your idea is not listed.
Well let's see, you say you are a pastor of some sort or another so where do you personally stand on the issue? Do you believe that you are able to deny Christ to the effect of losing your salvation? You did tell me you are saved so where is the Holy Spirit leading you?

What is you goal in this matter? Prove your own doctrine or compare it to everyone else's doctrine?


John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Scriptureplz

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Peter was sealed later too, but just not at the time he denied Jesus 3 times.
I don't think you get it. You're so proud to be proving me wrong you don't see the point that WE have it better and are completely eternally secure and CANNOT lose our salvation whether we deny Christ or not.
 
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I don't think you get it. You're so proud to be proving me wrong you don't see the point that WE have it better and are completely eternally secure and CANNOT lose our salvation whether we deny Christ or not.
Yikes! Let me know how that turns out for ya. :)