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Fundamentalist Thread
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Belgian_Pilot
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Cool. Now why do you assume that? Do you have a certain clue? I always thouth the Bible was quite clear about that...
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wwjd_kilden
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I'm not sure why. Maybe it is just stubbornness? I love the universe and paleontology etc, and it sees so... disappointing if everything isn't older than 6-7 thousand years 8which would logically follow if the bible uses literal time that is running throughout it without leaps)
I can't see how stars can be that young
I can't see how stars can be that young
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Belgian_Pilot
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That's easy. God can also create something that seems to us like it exsists already thousands years 
Knowing you, I think it's the stubbornness...
Knowing you, I think it's the stubbornness...
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wwjd_kilden
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yeah, that's true. but why make it so complicated? it only makes it harder for others to believe in Him
always been, always will be
always been, always will beI'm here too... One thing I've been questioning myself about is... ok here goes: As a woman I am not called to pastor or to instruct a man in biblical matters. Am I out of line to rebuke those who border on heresy with regards to the very foundation of our faith. I' m thinking perhaps because they are men that this is incorrect for me to be the one responding. Just something i've been throwing around. And if I am not called to speak against it why would I have such a strong reaction to it? (please dont say hormones lol). honestly would love some input on this.
I think we all have a responsibility to rebuke heresy, whether male or female. And to stand in the light of truth.
Phil
Well as for stars, and light and everything, notice that God made light on the first day, and didn't make the stars and sun until the fourth day. That may not make sense to some, that there was light before there were light sources. But consider this. If he just made the light sources on Day 1, then people would say "hey it takes thousands of years for the light from all those stars to reach the earth" (in other words for the stars to even be seen). So it actually makes more sense that he put all the light rays in place (stretched from the planned sources to the earth), and then made the light sources.
Anyway, it's no problem for God!
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machew
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Well as for stars, and light and everything, notice that God made light on the first day, and didn't make the stars and sun until the fourth day. That may not make sense to some, that there was light before there were light sources. But consider this. If he just made the light sources on Day 1, then people would say "hey it takes thousands of years for the light from all those stars to reach the earth" (in other words for the stars to even be seen). So it actually makes more sense that he put all the light rays in place (stretched from the planned sources to the earth), and then made the light sources.
Anyway, it's no problem for God!
You know what I find interesting is that according to science, time doesn't elapse without light. So perhaps what God was doing was creating the temporal aspect of creation(time).
i envision you stroking an imaginary beard as you say hmmmm...
This stuff is too deep 4 me. I just go by what the Lord says in faith & I suppose the timing of creation really doesnt matter to me but I believe it is as God said it is. If God's perspective of time is different than mine thats none of my business. I'm not science minded though.
This stuff is too deep 4 me. I just go by what the Lord says in faith & I suppose the timing of creation really doesnt matter to me but I believe it is as God said it is. If God's perspective of time is different than mine thats none of my business. I'm not science minded though.
Yes, imoss, that's what I mean. A true fundamentalist simply believes whatever is clearly written in the scripture.
And I consider the scripture account of creation a whole lot more trustworthy than the so-called science of the bandwagon of extremely biased atheist "scientists" who naturally want to suppress the truth of creation because it implies a Creator which implies that they are accountable and will be judged for their sin.
Romans 1:18-20:
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
And I consider the scripture account of creation a whole lot more trustworthy than the so-called science of the bandwagon of extremely biased atheist "scientists" who naturally want to suppress the truth of creation because it implies a Creator which implies that they are accountable and will be judged for their sin.
Romans 1:18-20:
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Actually, that's not entirely accurate. There's actually a HUGE portion of scientists who are bible-believing Christians that also support and defend evolution, as well as a lot of atheist scientists who accept evolution and that it can work in harmony with the Scriptural account of creation.
Not only that, but there are also a lot of atheist scientists who DON'T believe in evolution.
Well, it's a scientifically accurate bandwagon, so I'd throw my chips in with the ones with evidence
In all seriousness, though, why can't the two ideas co-exist? Why can't G-d have used evolution as His means of creation?
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miktre
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miktre
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Well, it's a scientifically accurate bandwagon, so I'd throw my chips in with the ones with evidence
In all seriousness, though, why can't the two ideas co-exist? Why can't G-d have used evolution as His means of creation?
No, there's not real evidence of evolution. It's a big bandwagon.
I believe in creation because I'm a fundamentalist on the scriptures.
But even if I weren't a fundamentalist, I still wouldn't be convinced by the "evidence" because there is no real "evidence".