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wwjd_kilden

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#41
Oh. I thought you hit the car in front of you first,

Anyway, better be honest. I know it doesn't always pay off in this world, but we know our Father knows.
 
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#42
Maranatha,

For your safety do not leave your phone home!! You may need it for emergencies. Just turn the ringer off.
My car died a few years ago right smack in the middle of one of the busiest streets in Philadelphia during a blizzard on a Friday night during rush hour and during the Christmas season. (It couldn't have been more inconvenient if it tried for it. And it was totally dead, so couldn't even put on the blinkers.) Lots of people stopped to ask me if I wanted them to call 911. I did. They did, because within 5 minutes (at rush hour traffic in the heart of... well you got the rest, so pretty much most cars couldn't get near me) two cop cars came specifically to get my car off that street.

Last November and December my husband had two heart surgeries -- one emergency and one huge one -- and I don't have the ability to sit around a hospital for more than four hours.

About the same time my Dad, who has late Stage 2 dementia, was doing some really whacky and frightening things (he had already set the wood pile outside on fire earlier that year, but by this time he was falling down stairs bleeding all over and never noticing, or threatening to kill someone -- vague enough that we'll never know if he meant himself or my brother -- with a loaded gun we didn't know where he hid in the house. The main thing we were all trying to accomplish at that time was to keep him safe until he could be committed legally. Since he is so out of it, four out of six of his kids, including me, got 3-20 calls from him per day and we just kept talking to him as long as possible, fully aware that as long as he was talking he wasn't falling down steps, wasn't setting the house on fire, and wasn't shooting anyone or anything.

All that, and I never used my cell phone. Exactly what type of huge emergency are people expecting that they need the comfort of a $100 a month cellphone?

The emergency? Facebook/pinterest/Twitter/Vine is dying for yet another selfie of someone driving their car!

Enough people have cellphones and landlines that if you need to make a call or have someone come to you... it's covered. If it's not? You're foolish to be that far out in the sticks by yourself to begin with.
 
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#43
I didn't say I slammed on the brakes because I was distracted because of the cell phone. I don't know if you read my post wrong or not. I said the guy in front of me slammed on his brakes and then I had to slam on mine. I was however glancing back and forth but like I said I felt totally in control and didn't feel like an accident was going to happen at all. Just then I got hit from behind which caused me to hit the person in front of me.
I was looking at my phone every now and then
Which later on became scrolling down FB.
but I felt like I was in control of my driving. When the person in front of me slammed on his brakes I slammed on mine and I remember thinking ok I'm stopping a little harder then usual and then bam I was hit from behind.
If you're fully in control you don't slam on your brakes. Feeling "in control" really doesn't compare to what happened. And no one ever feels like they're going to be in a car accident until that unmistakable sound of metal scrapping metal and, possibly, glass breaking. That's why it's called "an accident." Not too many people do that on purpose.
 
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#44
I hear what your saying its crazy for sure, people just don't drive by the law or rules of the road or even have any respect for others on the road as motorists it can be extremely frustrating to witness. People cutting off people jumping in front of cars forcing people to slam on breaks pretty sad. about being stopped at red lights the rule is a person should see the rear tires of the car in front touching the pavement that's what DMV says.. and as far as moving down the road if a person keeps the 3 second rule between your car and the person in front of you doesn't matter how fast your moving with that rule in mind a person will have enough time to stop even if the person slams on the breaks it's been proven that the 3 second rule works that's why almost all the time it's the person in the rear who gets the ticket. Now yes people cut us off and shorten that which yes they are at fault but it sucs no doubt in today's world of fast pace driving as people do...better off having a go pro and again it sucs we as drivers have to carry a go pro or some kind of video to prove someone cut us off but that is life no days. And I know that's money for a video recorder but that is the only way unless you have a witness to prove it was their fault and cut someone off. again I know it's terrible people go bonkers on the road but we can't drive like they do.
I could read his licence plate without my glasses. lol

I didn't know about wheels on ground though. I know I could see pavement between us when we were moving, I just wasn't expecting someone to take his foot off the brake pedal to move a car length away. I do admit, I was at fault for that. Anticipating other drivers is part of what we have to do as drivers, and I was more annoyed knowing half the people passing us were doing that to cut into our line. Should have gone with crank up the radio and sing along with John Cougar Mellencamp at the top of my voice. (It calms me when driving, and makes me chuckle knowing everyone else is seeing this old lady singing ancient songs. lol)

And as for how far behind a driver? I heard one car length (or one stripe in the road) per every ten MPH driving.
 
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#45
Yeah but I think regardless of whether or not I was on my phone the guy in front of me was still going to slam on his brakes. He did it a couple minutes before that too.
LOL You just admitted you knew he was a bad driver but FB called, so you stopped worrying about it. Like I just said, anticipating other drivers is part of what we have to do. Scrolling FB doesn't give you time to anticipate enough, as you just found out.

If someone isn't paying attention while they're walking and on their cellphones the worse that happens to me is I get a scrape on my arm from the building he/she pushes me into because I didn't anticipate him/her changing directions.

If I'm in a car, the worse that happens is hubby finds out he's a widower. There are old ladies driving nearby belting out Jack and Diane along with Mellencamp. That person is more real than a selfie or a pithy quote on FB.

I still think you should own up to what happened, but I don't think you're a horrible person for it. I also don't think the driver of that other car who ran into my friend's car in college and killed him along with two others was a bad person either. Still. That friend only lived 19 years because of the person.

And I really feel sorry for that driver. He lived! It's 41 years later. I bet he can remember it just as clearly today as he did then. All I want from you is to rethink your position. No, you're not a bad person. You are a bad driver. Be on the good side of the stats for young drivers. If many young drivers are bad drivers, that means others are good drivers. You are a bad driver. Become a good driver. Drive like you're retired and in no hurry to get anywhere. You'll be surprised at the scenery you're missing (and that whacky old lady in her car singing her lungs out but she's so bad you can't even recognize the song. lol)
 
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#47
I think you need to have a little more grace in your life because you don't know the whole situation so you can just be unloading on me because of what other people have done to you. Who's to say the other people in the accident weren't in their phone too. They didn't come forward though and that's what I'm trying to do. Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure there are areas of your life that you fall short in. Don't be so quick to judge.
If the others are on their phones too? That means three drivers are bad drivers. It doesn't let you off the hook. Use a little grace yourself. Defense works better in a car than after the fact. Become a defense driver, instead of defending a bad choice.

It was a bad choice. You're not the first to make a bad choice nor the last, but if you don't learn from the bad choice, you're likely to have to learn from an even badder situation in the future.
 
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#48
Well, either he's a new driver, or someone in their old age who shouldn't be driving, or maybe he was HOPING to cause an accident so he could sue somebody.
Pssst, you do realize you're responding to someone who thinks you already are in your old age, right?


Age doesn't make you a good or bad driver. My great-aunt took her driving test every six months, not because she had to, but because she kept worrying that someone in her 90's might slip without noticing. Nope. Perfect every time, and she didn't die in a car accident.
 
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No I didn't tell anyone he slammed on his brakes at the time because I was hurt and my blood pressure was really high so I didn't think about it.
Three cars in an accident. Somewhere along the line is someone from an insurance company calling to find out what happened. If your blood pressure was really high then, you need to go to the ER now.
 
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#50
I have a really bad habit when I drive; it's called paying attention.

Causes my blood pressure to sky rocket every time I get behind the wheel.
Jersey.

What were you expecting?



Unless you're driving through the Pine Barrens it's expected.
 
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#51
You cannot blame the car in front of you for slamming his breaks
Unless the US is very different from Europe, Law states YOU are to keep enough distance at ALL TIMES to avoid an accident IF the car in front of you does that
We are very different, but you can't tell by our traffic laws. They're normal.

(We even drive on the right side of the street. lol)
 

blue_ladybug

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Pssst, you do realize you're responding to someone who thinks you already are in your old age, right?


Age doesn't make you a good or bad driver. My great-aunt took her driving test every six months, not because she had to, but because she kept worrying that someone in her 90's might slip without noticing. Nope. Perfect every time, and she didn't die in a car accident.
Old age is 80's and 90's year old people. That's the age I was referring to. :) And honestly, is checking fake book while driving, that important to die (or kill) for?
 
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Well, I would think the phone would be an important detail if it was an important detail, did it delay you making a stop longer than you had warning to make the stop regardless. Not talking like .00000000001 seconds of delay, but enough to make a difference in the events? if so, remember before saying it in a court room doing something illegal could make it your fault (which it wasn't, really, if you could go after people for actual fault, both of you should be looking at the guy who stopped abruptly in front of you). But if being on your phone made you not react and you otherwise would have not been hit, you were coincidentally on it and it played no role, if you could have not been hit if you were not on your phone, it is a cause and if you can afford to, you should say something. Only you and any passengers can recall what was happening at the time, so you would have to go through your memory and investigate if the phone was a factor.

Either way going forward you can save yourself this feeling by not using your phone while you drive, since it is causing you to feel this way, regardless of if it even mattered or not.