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There is a major part in this Christian life I am called to engage in when fighting the good fight of faith. That verse that says for believers to "reckon" ourselves dead unto sin and alive unto God.
We have to (reckon) it to be so.
To count; compute [reckon costs] 2. To regard as being ; consider as ..3.informal. To think or assume [I reckon I'll be there] 1.to make a calculation; figure 2. To rely (reckon on the kindness of others] ---reckon with. To come to terms or settle an account.
This sounds very much life faith to me. Believing it, relying it to be so and acting on that belief. I'm thinking of verses about the pulling down of strong holds. Forgive me if this was already said. Have been up for a long time tonight and read sooo many posts. Am reading 2 Cor.10:3-for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but [SUP][a][/SUP]divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. [SUP]5 [/SUP]We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,
The walk of faith is supernatural and so anything that tries to derail us from walking that way and going another way is according to the flesh right?
So our weapons are not of the flesh. Faith is not of the flesh. (faith) is divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses that have long kept many of us captive.
And (faith) destroys speculations that our flesh sees with the eyes only. Are we called to destroy speculations? YES. Those things we see only with our eyes without faith are lofty things raised up against the knowledge of God. And the only way to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ is to do it by faith.
And aren't we called to the obedience of faith?
We have to (reckon) it to be so.
To count; compute [reckon costs] 2. To regard as being ; consider as ..3.informal. To think or assume [I reckon I'll be there] 1.to make a calculation; figure 2. To rely (reckon on the kindness of others] ---reckon with. To come to terms or settle an account.
This sounds very much life faith to me. Believing it, relying it to be so and acting on that belief. I'm thinking of verses about the pulling down of strong holds. Forgive me if this was already said. Have been up for a long time tonight and read sooo many posts. Am reading 2 Cor.10:3-for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but [SUP][a][/SUP]divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. [SUP]5 [/SUP]We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,
The walk of faith is supernatural and so anything that tries to derail us from walking that way and going another way is according to the flesh right?
So our weapons are not of the flesh. Faith is not of the flesh. (faith) is divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses that have long kept many of us captive.
And (faith) destroys speculations that our flesh sees with the eyes only. Are we called to destroy speculations? YES. Those things we see only with our eyes without faith are lofty things raised up against the knowledge of God. And the only way to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ is to do it by faith.
And aren't we called to the obedience of faith?
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I must disagree. God does not have to forgive everyone to be perfect Grace, He is perfect grace because of what he did to mankind. Satan is the one who wants to humanize God. by saying he is not perfect love, he is not perfect Grace, he is not perfect Holiness.
Lets not buy into Satan's lie..
Gods perfect character must work in harmony, God is perfect love, But his love can not go against his justice, Justice demanded a payment for sin, And it must be carried out no matter how much or how perfect Gods love is.. God can not just say, I LOVE YOU so I will let you in even though you are guilty. (universalism teaches this) Justice must be carried out. But Love can find a way and perfect love did (the cross) that way Gods perfect Grace could redeem mankind to himself. But even then, Love is proven, by not forcing his grace on everyone, but allowing people to make a choice to recieve his gift, or reject it.
Gods character is so far and above our understanding, it may take a millennia of being in heaven seeing him as he is before we can comprehend it..
Lets not buy into Satan's lie..
Gods perfect character must work in harmony, God is perfect love, But his love can not go against his justice, Justice demanded a payment for sin, And it must be carried out no matter how much or how perfect Gods love is.. God can not just say, I LOVE YOU so I will let you in even though you are guilty. (universalism teaches this) Justice must be carried out. But Love can find a way and perfect love did (the cross) that way Gods perfect Grace could redeem mankind to himself. But even then, Love is proven, by not forcing his grace on everyone, but allowing people to make a choice to recieve his gift, or reject it.
Gods character is so far and above our understanding, it may take a millennia of being in heaven seeing him as he is before we can comprehend it..
Obviously the flesh with its longings isn't dead, otherwise there would be no imperative to put it to death. The flesh is dead in a judicial sense (dead in GOD's eyes), which is what allows the holy spirit to dwell within sinful beings through GOD's grace.
Mortify
G3499 νεκρόω nekroo (nek-roh'-o) v.
1. to deaden
This is another example of how hyper grace believers twist everything: i.e., put off the old man because he is dead. No, put off the old man so that he won't cause you to sin and thereby lead you to ruin. We have the power and ability to mortify the flesh now because the holy spirit is within and our advocate.
Mortify
G3499 νεκρόω nekroo (nek-roh'-o) v.
1. to deaden
This is another example of how hyper grace believers twist everything: i.e., put off the old man because he is dead. No, put off the old man so that he won't cause you to sin and thereby lead you to ruin. We have the power and ability to mortify the flesh now because the holy spirit is within and our advocate.
If I could "like" this a hundred times I would..well said. Preaching and teaching the grace that is in Jesus who is in us now in our new creation in Christ will facilitate the exchanged life that is in us now because we are in Him.
I love this quote below which illustrates this and that grace is not a concept and people can just have a "mental assent " to the reality of Christ in us.
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This matters a great deal because the grace of Christ will not bear fruit in your life if you think it is merely a concept or a doctrine. As Judah Smith said recently:
We shudder at the term grace because it has been so maligned, so abused, so misrepresented. We see grace as the get out of jail free card. “Oh yeah, I love me some grace man. I get my jiggy on in the weekend then I come back on Sunday and get me my grace on.” No, that’s not grace. You’ve met a concept, not a Person.”
I regularly encounter people who don’t know what grace is so they misuse it or they attack it. Just the other day someone wrote to tell me that too much preaching on grace leads to wrongdoing. That’s simply not possible when you have a proper understanding of grace. Grace no more leads to wrongdoing than love for your spouse will lead you to Ashley Madison.
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To say you post only what you agree with for Joseph Prince is like saying,
"I only posted the good parts of Mein Kampf."
"I only posted the good parts of Confucius."
"I only posted the good parts of Communist Manifesto."
"I only posted the good parts of Freud."
"I only posted the good parts of Buddha."
"I only posted the good parts of Margaret Sanger."
"I only buy Playboy for the articles!"
Rom. 12:1-2
1I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
"I only posted the good parts of Mein Kampf."
"I only posted the good parts of Confucius."
"I only posted the good parts of Communist Manifesto."
"I only posted the good parts of Freud."
"I only posted the good parts of Buddha."
"I only posted the good parts of Margaret Sanger."
"I only buy Playboy for the articles!"
Rom. 12:1-2
1I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
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Never said it could. Identity is who you are. Not what you want to become..
But it will change a life.. And has been doing so for centuries..
now, would you like to show me where I was wrong in my comments about how we struggle with the flesh and sin because we struggle with our identity? or is this all you have?
But it will change a life.. And has been doing so for centuries..
now, would you like to show me where I was wrong in my comments about how we struggle with the flesh and sin because we struggle with our identity? or is this all you have?
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honestly? i don't get the whole 'identity' biz. very confusing to my little mind.
i'd rather focus on the Lord.
i'd rather focus on the Lord.
When you focus on the lord. You are focusing on your identity, Because your focusing on being "in Christ" and everythign that scripture says God has given to you. It is called setting your minds on the things above "Spiritual things which are eternal) and not on the things of this world (temporal things which have no eternal value)
at least thats they way I see it..
just a thought on repentance.
metánoia... literally a change of mind, yes.
it's when we change our thinking and agree with God about anything and everything.
including agreeing with God about our cosmic high treason... our sin.
we agree we have sinned!
let's not sweep it under the rug as 'covered', although it surely is forgiven!
short accounts, right?
confession of sin is part of agreeing with God that we have committed it, isn't it?
metánoia... literally a change of mind, yes.
it's when we change our thinking and agree with God about anything and everything.
including agreeing with God about our cosmic high treason... our sin.
we agree we have sinned!
let's not sweep it under the rug as 'covered', although it surely is forgiven!
short accounts, right?
confession of sin is part of agreeing with God that we have committed it, isn't it?
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I already suggested "the cure" for that. Stop saying it. And yet, you keep saying it. I am not put off by you returning. I am put off that so many of your posts end with the conclusion that there is no purpose in answering you because you won't be back.
I'm beginning to pick that up as a game for you. "I'll charge you with something, but don't want a response, so I say I'm leaving again."
It reminds me of my relationship with one of my brothers when we were little. I'd call him a queer while locking myself in the bathroom, so he couldn't hurt me. I always got in the last word that way.
And then we grew up and got past that. No more locked doors between us. Bonus points: I found out queer didn't mean odd to him.
I'm beginning to pick that up as a game for you. "I'll charge you with something, but don't want a response, so I say I'm leaving again."
It reminds me of my relationship with one of my brothers when we were little. I'd call him a queer while locking myself in the bathroom, so he couldn't hurt me. I always got in the last word that way.
And then we grew up and got past that. No more locked doors between us. Bonus points: I found out queer didn't mean odd to him.
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