THE CRY FOR THE POWER

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popeye

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#61
Are you delusional? Who ever said it comes from satan?
Under what spirit do you call me names (Satan,delusional)?

You said anyone desirous of the power of the HOLY SPIRIT is satanic.

Now ,when you are called on it,you up the anti with more labels.

Get off the put downs and answer the word of God.
 
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There is no such thing as "dying to yourself daily". Paul was talking about being in peril and danger from spreading the gospel when he said "I die daily". Religion has hi-jacked that phrase and turned it into something else then what Paul said.

The truth is that we have already died with Christ on the cross and that we are now raised to new life in Christ and alive to God because we are one with Him.

We need our minds renewed to the truth of the gospel and in doing so we will be transformed by the power of God in our lives.

If we would just preach the real gospel a lot of this religious nonsense could be put away so that we could follow the Holy Spirit in our lives.

Most times we are confusing taking up our cross daily with what Paul said when he said "I die daily".

Taking up our cross is identifying that we too died on the cross with Jesus and are now raised to new life in Him and our real life is in Him - so we follow the Holy Spirit in our lives now - knowing we are living onto Him now as we follow Christ in us.

Colossians 3:2-3 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth.

[SUP]3 [/SUP] For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Romans 6:6-8 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;

[SUP]7 [/SUP] for he who has died is freed from sin.

[SUP]8 [/SUP] Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
 

crossnote

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#63
Under what spirit do you call me names (Satan,delusional)?

You said anyone desirous of the power of the HOLY SPIRIT is satanic.

Now ,when you are called on it,you up the anti with more labels.

Get off the put downs and answer the word of God.
To show your delusion, point to the post where I said, "anyone desirous of the power of the Holy Spirit is satanic".
 
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popeye

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#64
You seem to be full of assumptions about others.
You fail to grasp the concept that when we are weak, He is made strong.
God is not in your one dimensional box.

Jesus is a lion,and a lamb.

It's like you say the two are not compatible.

WHILE YOU POINT YOUR FINGER,you in fact are ASSUMING the power is somehow opposed to God,when it was the POWER that Authenticated Jesus and ELIJAH.

I mean,it is as if you read a totally neutered bible.
 

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God is not in your one dimensional box.

Jesus is a lion,and a lamb.

It's like you say the two are not compatible.

WHILE YOU POINT YOUR FINGER,you in fact are ASSUMING the power is somehow opposed to God,when it was the POWER that Authenticated Jesus and ELIJAH.

I mean,it is as if you read a totally neutered bible.
2 Corinthians 12:7-10 KJVS
[7] And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. [8] For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. [9] And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. [10] Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
 
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popeye

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To show your delusion, point to the post where I said, "anyone desirous of the power of the Holy Spirit is satanic".
Try on post 44

"your desires are satans ..more power"

Stop the deflection

You know what you did.

And I never did anything to you for you to get that vile and nasty.
 
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popeye

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2 Corinthians 12:7-10 KJVS
[7] And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. [8] For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. [9] And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. [10] Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
Still afraid of the power verses?

All you are doing is editing God's WORD.

YES,anyone can promote one side.

That is all you do.
 

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no , your desires are in line with satans...more Power!
Try on post 44

"your desires are satans ..more power"

Stop the deflection

You know what you did.

And I never did anything to you for you to get that vile and nasty.
I see nothing about the Holy Spirt there, (only a misquoting of me,) but rather I gathered this spirit from you...

Isaiah 14:13-14 KJVS
[13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: [14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
 
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crossnote

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#69
Still afraid of the power verses?

All you are doing is editing God's WORD.

YES,anyone can promote one side.

That is all you do.
I'm not afraid of the power verses, I've experienced plenty of His power. I just don't lust after power but rather I desire Him.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Oh,ok,I reread your post .

I assume you are not cessationist
Spiritual gifts are cool, but they are given at Gods discretion. All through the NT “love" is the real issue, not spiritual gifts.
 

NayborBear

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#71
There is a cry within the believer. We see elijah and the power,and the miracles.The decisiveness.
We see elisha,who would not leave the side of elijah,for fear of the mantle eluding him.

We see Elisha order his servant "take my rod,and lay it next to the child,and the child will recover. NOTHING HAPPENED. So,that was it right? no miracle.

No sir. He went to the child,lay on top of the body,and the child came back to life.

Elisha did twice what Elijah did.

Now ff to Jesus walking amongst us. WHO DID HE INVOKE? Elijah. The fore runner.

Now this same Jesus,our forerunner,gave us the promise of Elijah. "Greater works than theses will you do"

Amazing. God invokes man.
Why?

It is heaven's protocol.

Jesus handed us the power. We pray,sometimes we get results,but mostly no. Nothing.

So,where do we go from here?

We go higher. We admit the problem is us. We look to heaven for answers.

But we let the hunger intensify. In fact we stoke those flames. Just a little spark can start a massive fire.

I want more power. I want want the power of heaven like elisha had. I say with Paul,I will be behind on no gift.

Why are we against this????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClAikNoJ2I
 
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popeye

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#72
I see nothing about the Holy Spirt there, (only a misquoting of me,) but rather I gathered this spirit from you...

Isaiah 14:13-14 KJVS
[13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: [14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
You sir,are a game player.

You attributed power to Satan.

Get out of that lying spirit sir.

There are only 2powers. You seem to believe all power is from the devil.

You simply can not bring yourself to acknowledge that the Holy Spirit is the avenue of power.

Something about the power of the H S offends you,and my presence produces hatred and name calling from you.
 
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popeye

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#73
Spiritual gifts are cool, but they are given at Gods discretion. All through the NT “love" is the real issue, not spiritual gifts.
Well,sort of.

Gifts WITHOUT love are neutralized.

Water is 2 elements. Hydrogen dominates.

But try drinking a glass of it. The oxygen element,though a minority,makes the compound.

We cannot exclude the power by exaggerating one ingredient.
 
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popeye

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It's like sitting at a table,and for many years salt has been demonized.

"oh,we don't do that. We never ask for salt. That is from Satan. We JUST center on the food. The host and cook would be offended.
We were taught that Satan salts his food,THEREFORE,we see all salt as from the devil. In fact Anyone salting their food,lines up with the devil"

Can't make this fear mess up. It is here,and men are it's source. The bible and the POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST are the cure.
 
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popeye

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#75
Elisha pursued the annointing. He WOULD NOT leave the side of Elijah.

That type is for today. The cross without the resurrection has produced a vile religious nastiness in Christians.

I have been on forums for many years. Over ten.

I have never seen such nastiness as from "depleted" and "crossnote"

That is a spirit. It is manifesting,and operating in this forum.
 
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popeye

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#76
Jesus told the church " don't even think of doing anything,until you hear 20 years of preaching against my power"

Uh,no, they were COMMANDED to wait FOR THE POWER.

For some reason,Jesus did not see the imperative to skip that step.

Modern man,fixed that for us.Now we see the terror that the power of the HS Invokes in religion.
 
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popeye

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#77
If a thread was started on " I want my church to start giving communion"

It would surely be met with decrees against it.

What if it is magnified above the cross.

Oh,wait,the devil drank wine,communion is of the devil.

Well you just want wine above Jesus.

What is this one dimensional spirit?

Is a pair of shoes wrong also?

Doctrine of one shoe?
 
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popeye

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#78
1thes 4

He that despises,despises not man,but God,who has given us his Holy Spirit.
 

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People don't realize that in seeking power you are attempting to extend God's heart to the world and those around you. A seeking of power is for the intent of edification. It isn't selfish, though it is cool to be used by God (haha), but it is for others to see the love of God. To see the Lord. To give hope. It is only sourced in love, and how else does one receive such unless they spend time in His presence?
 
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popeye

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#80
Mat 10:1

"...and he gave his disciples power over demons,and to cast them out,and to heal all manner if disease,and sickness"

Cessationists do not know their bibles.