PATRIOTISM IS BIBLICAL, But Is It Dying In AMERICA?
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HE SAID BOTH:
Matthew 22:21 (ASV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]They say unto him, Caesar's.
Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
That Certainly includes Military Service when it is required. I am a Veteran of the Cold War/Vietnam Era.
Romans 13:4 (HCSB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For government is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword for no reason. For government is God’s servant, an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.
Now answer a question for me, Ken, "How come you are always on the opposite side of the fence as born again Christians?"
Many are trying to have the "under God" part removed,(Pledge of Allegiance Fast Facts - CNN.com) just as they have removed the 10 commandments and are trying to have crosses removed from public government areas. It is clear that this nation has given the One true God a back seat (if even a place at all) when it comes to government affairs and decisions regarding morals and abiding in the words of God. The government is now all about itself and not about doing God's will. They desire power and money disregarding the will of the people and the will of God. They love violence by making wars globally and flooding the world with weapons of death and destruction, which has now become a big business for them.
If they desire blood, let the Lord give them blood to drink.
If they desire blood, let the Lord give them blood to drink.
To those who think our Patriotism is still the same, as it once was:
The History Place - Great Speeches Collection: President Franklin Roosevelt Speech D-Day Prayer
Please play this Audio recording of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, which was a National Radio Broadcast, the Morning of D-Day. I challenge you to listen, and then tell me you still believe we did not loose a VERY SPECIAL PART OF OUR PATRIOTISM.
The History Place - Great Speeches Collection: President Franklin Roosevelt Speech D-Day Prayer
Please play this Audio recording of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, which was a National Radio Broadcast, the Morning of D-Day. I challenge you to listen, and then tell me you still believe we did not loose a VERY SPECIAL PART OF OUR PATRIOTISM.
I'm not on the opposite fence. I just do not endorse slaughter of people just for the sake of a Nation.
How many Native Americans were MURDERED just so you could have a tiny piece of land?????
How many Blacks were forced into slavery just so your ancestors could become rich???
How can we say "one Nation, under God" when we are too busy taking away the rights of others???
We were never a Nation that followed God. We followed Satan and all his lies!
God has judged this Nation, this is why we are no longer a Nation of power. This is why Isis has a foothold in this Nation. We have been judged by God and have been found guilty!
How many Native Americans were MURDERED just so you could have a tiny piece of land?????
How many Blacks were forced into slavery just so your ancestors could become rich???
How can we say "one Nation, under God" when we are too busy taking away the rights of others???
We were never a Nation that followed God. We followed Satan and all his lies!
God has judged this Nation, this is why we are no longer a Nation of power. This is why Isis has a foothold in this Nation. We have been judged by God and have been found guilty!
If not for the United States Christianity would've been wiped out and you be speaking Russian right now. Isis only has "a foothold" because our president is a muslim coddling idiot. One of the many great things about this country is we don't force anyone to stay, you hate it so much leave. As to God judging this nation if you see a better nation currently on this planet let me know, seems we have it better than anyone else even today.
Like I said, the OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE FENCE, and I refer you to the link in my post above, and may you choke on your words.
Christian Prayer: God Bless America
ISIS was formed because of failed U.S. foreign policy when they entered into Iraq on a false premise of Saddam having weapons of mass destruction. The U.S. foreign policy of setting up a puppet government created a civil war that led to the formation of ISIS. The U.S. has been trying to set up puppet governments all over the world for years now by overthrowing other leaders and governments and setting up their own puppets in office to do their evil bidding. People who do not see this for what it is are either ignorant or brainwashed by US propaganda.
And do you see how your cynicism is part of the problem?
How about looking at the things Congress does right and vote in the right Christian politicians to fix the things that are wrong.
[video=youtube;-8X13cYNxDY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8X13cYNxDY[/video]
2016 National Prayer Breakfast | Video | C-SPAN.org
LISTEN TO AT LEAST the first 10 minutes, because they talk about the Weekly Prayer Group from Congress. YES, they have a Congressional Prayer Group that meets weekly, and it is made up of both Republicans and Democrats, and WE NEED TO BE PRAYING FOR THEM.
How about looking at the things Congress does right and vote in the right Christian politicians to fix the things that are wrong.
[video=youtube;-8X13cYNxDY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8X13cYNxDY[/video]
2016 National Prayer Breakfast | Video | C-SPAN.org
LISTEN TO AT LEAST the first 10 minutes, because they talk about the Weekly Prayer Group from Congress. YES, they have a Congressional Prayer Group that meets weekly, and it is made up of both Republicans and Democrats, and WE NEED TO BE PRAYING FOR THEM.
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OHHH, is that National Prayer Breakfast Video ever a BLESSING. Some AMAZING TESTIMONIES. You all need to make time to to watch it all. It is 1:55:59 minutes, but worth every second of the time. You have to hear Mr. and Mrs. Burnett's Testimonies on how GOD used them. Roma Downey, Mark Burnett's wife said: "It is far more effective to light a Candle, than to curse the Darkness."
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I agree with you 100% that what the Tea Party has done is shameful and beyond forgiveness. But this is not the first time that a group of hate filled delusionals has openly done such a wicked act. Recall that in the 1960s it was radical communists who did the same. Eventually, all that hate got burned out and many became conservatives, others moderates & liberals.
Eventually this will happen to the majority of far right radicals in the unpatriotic Tea Party.
Corrupt government is the problem, it's not a big secret as their nakedness has been exposed. The only thing the House and Senate can agree on these days is boosting more military spending, which just spreads more death and destruction around the world, not peace. The government is being run by big business and special interest groups who could care less about doing God's will because they are of their father the Devil, and the lusts of their father they will do. Their evil actions prove they are not of God's Spirit, only those who are still of the world would be blinded from seeing this.
How can you say the USA saved Christianity? Is the USA GREATER then God? No.
God never needed the help of the USA to protect Christianity.
Do you not understand God never needed the USA to keep Christianity alive and well? Christianity is all over the World. Many other Nations follow God. Are you so arrogant as to believe any Nation could destroy God's Children????
God should be first in your life, not your Patriotism for any country and especially not for the USA which never followed God. If the USA had followed God then Native Americans would not have been MURDERED for their land and the Black people would have not been forced into Slavery!
So do not pee on my leg and say its raining!
God never needed the help of the USA to protect Christianity.
Do you not understand God never needed the USA to keep Christianity alive and well? Christianity is all over the World. Many other Nations follow God. Are you so arrogant as to believe any Nation could destroy God's Children????
God should be first in your life, not your Patriotism for any country and especially not for the USA which never followed God. If the USA had followed God then Native Americans would not have been MURDERED for their land and the Black people would have not been forced into Slavery!
So do not pee on my leg and say its raining!
Thank you, for agreeing about the Tea Party. At one time I was even considering them as a viable alternative. However after that insult to Veterans, just to make a Political Statement, I would NEVER Vote for a single one of their candidate. I personally think that BAD DECISION their leaders made, will turn out to be Political Suicide.
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The radical far right Tea Party, like the radical leftists of the 1960s, had two things in common: they hated this society and felt that it was ever so much against them and their interests; secondly, most were from privileged upper class suburban backgrounds. Funny how despite having so much, they felt so disaffected by society.
By contrast, I am from the ghetto and survive on a frugal social security check. Yet, I am grateful that I live in the greatest country in the world. I wave the flag and appreciate all the sacrifices others have done to make this the greatest Land in the world. Turning the flag upside down is social and unpatriotic sacrilege. Shame on those people who hate this great Land.
GOD BLESS THE USA!
By contrast, I am from the ghetto and survive on a frugal social security check. Yet, I am grateful that I live in the greatest country in the world. I wave the flag and appreciate all the sacrifices others have done to make this the greatest Land in the world. Turning the flag upside down is social and unpatriotic sacrilege. Shame on those people who hate this great Land.
GOD BLESS THE USA!