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simplifiedtruth said:
Jesus did not break anything(of the Torah), He was without sin He's entire time down here. If he did break something it was the tradition and man made doctrines of men.
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No,he apparently INTENTIONALLY broke it by picking corn,and when confronted,he did not refute it,but said; " ...and you also break it..."

He even further defended breaking the law by commending David FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

Your teachers are lacking in knowledge sir.
 
popeye said:
No,he apparently INTENTIONALLY broke it by picking corn,and when confronted,he did not refute it,but said; " ...and you also break it..."

He even further defended breaking the law by commending David FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

Your teachers are lacking in knowledge sir.
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1 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made himto be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 John 3:4-5 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

No, Jesus did not sin (break the Torah). Also eating from the corners of the crops and of trees was left for the poor according to the Law. They were not allowed to put it into baskets, but to eat from it.
 
simplifiedtruth said:
1 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made himto be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 John 3:4-5 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

No, Jesus did not sin (break the Torah). Also eating from the corners of the crops and of trees was left for the poor according to the Law. They were not allowed to put it into baskets, but to eat from it.
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He did not refute it,but agreed that they BOTH BROKE THE LAW.
 
simplifiedtruth said:
Emphasize the law over the law giver ? And what does that mean exactly ?
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Jesus is junior to your doctrine of law keeping.

BTW,it is a quagmire for all you torah guys,in that,should you break it ,even in the most miniscule transgression,you might as well break the entire thing.

Your own doctrine will condemn you.
 
popeye said:
Jesus is junior to your doctrine of law keeping.

BTW,it is a quagmire for all you torah guys,in that,should you break it ,even in the most miniscule transgression,you might as well break the entire thing.

Your own doctrine will condemn you.
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Can you please explain what you are trying to say ?
 
You guys even preach that Jesus is an avenue to torah keeping.

ONLY,a means to an end.
 
something I've wondered, from any lawkeeper that wants to answer


if some beef has been slaughtered such that some blood is still left in it, will eating it make a person unclean?
 
On my phone,so the verses I refer to are from memory.

They are there.

You are not taught them,because it basically blows huge holes in your doctrine.

Why would they show you that ?
 
Dan_473 said:
something I've wondered, from any lawkeeper that wants to answer


if some beef has been slaughtered such that some blood is still left in it, will eating it make a person unclean?
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Not only that,the animal has to be slain a certain way.

The temple in heaven,basically,is "illegal" in that certain furniture is missing.

Jesus preached law breaking " you have heard.... But I say..."
 
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