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Hello LauenTM,
We understand from scripture that at the time of death, the spirit departs and goes immediately to be in the presence of the Lord and is conscious and aware. This garbage about the comma being in the wrong place was invented by those who believe in soul sleep and so they had to circumvent the scripture where Jesus is saying to the man "today you will be with me in paradise." Willie is just repeating this false teaching. Sleep/death is only referring to the body and not to the soul/spirit, which is very much conscious and aware. At the resurrection, the spirits of those who will have gone to be with the Lord will be reunited with their resurrected bodies. One of the truths that the rich man and Lazarus teach is that the spirit is conscious and aware after the death of the body and there there is punishment for the wicked.
Another example of conscious awareness of the soul after death is demonstrated at the opening of the 5th seal where the souls under the altar in heaven who had been killed are seen asking the Lord how long it will be before he avenges their deaths upon those on the earth, where they are then told to wait a little longer. I would suggest reading the word of God for yourself because there are many false teachings out in the world and this is one of them.
We understand from scripture that at the time of death, the spirit departs and goes immediately to be in the presence of the Lord and is conscious and aware. This garbage about the comma being in the wrong place was invented by those who believe in soul sleep and so they had to circumvent the scripture where Jesus is saying to the man "today you will be with me in paradise." Willie is just repeating this false teaching. Sleep/death is only referring to the body and not to the soul/spirit, which is very much conscious and aware. At the resurrection, the spirits of those who will have gone to be with the Lord will be reunited with their resurrected bodies. One of the truths that the rich man and Lazarus teach is that the spirit is conscious and aware after the death of the body and there there is punishment for the wicked.
Another example of conscious awareness of the soul after death is demonstrated at the opening of the 5th seal where the souls under the altar in heaven who had been killed are seen asking the Lord how long it will be before he avenges their deaths upon those on the earth, where they are then told to wait a little longer. I would suggest reading the word of God for yourself because there are many false teachings out in the world and this is one of them.
yes Hi Atwatukee (I had to keep looking at yr name for spelling LOL!)
let's not call what other people state garbage ok?
only God knows how much garbage we say and think individually and yet He still, as of this moment, has patience with each of us
I don't have a dog in this fight, I am trying to decide for myself. I have already changed my mind on so many things as life experience did not bear up with what I was taught and I have suffered for not knowing what is true
However, I do not believe anyone's salvation hinges on this particular subject
What I do know for sure, is that I wish above all else to be in my Lords' presence and to spend eternity with Him and I have assurance that each of us here most likely would very much like the same thing
I have read your post. You bring up a good point regarding the saints under the throne. I have read the entire Bible once and many portions many times. Again, this is a subject I once took for granted but I tend to take a little salt with alot of teaching these days...once burned and all that
No offence and nothing personal
Thanks