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peacenik

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I admit I had visceral hatred for Muslims at one time but God worked with me and softened my heart regarding Muslims, yet be that as it may, I am diligent against false teachings that fail to acknowledge Jesus' full glory. Islam is one such false teaching. Once again you're words are trumped.



See my post to Yeraza.
 
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Why the crap are you here, Peacenik? Because if you're all about peace, why does it look like you're trying to make 'war' on everyone here?
 

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PlainWord; said:
The differences between Islam and Christianity appear subtle but if you dig into it you see they are 180 degrees out of sync in many key areas.


The Son which Muslims deny which makes them all "ANTICHRISTS." 1 John 2: Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 2 John 1: For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. You see all Muslims are "ANTICHRISTS" because they deny that God has a Son and they deny that Jesus is the Son of God, instead they say, "Jesus (Isa) is only a prophet. They have gone out into all the world teaching this lie.





Anyone who denies Jesus is Messiah is an antichrist. That means that Jews and others who deny Jesus is Messiah are also antichrists and we are commanded to refrain from dealing with them or you shall share in their evil. See 2 John 1:8-11.

As I have documented several times on this forum, only the Messiah can re-establish the Kingdom - this means Eretz Israel is NOT the regathered Kingdom we read about in the Bible.
 

peacenik

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Why the crap are you here, Peacenik? Because if you're all about peace, why does it look like you're trying to make 'war' on everyone here?


You need to watch your language as you befoul yourself with such nonsense. See Ephesians 4:29 and other references.

What I write is not fashionable or politically correct to those of you from the far right but it is the truth whether you like it or not. So do yourself a favor and either address the issue or refrain from posting nonsense.
 

Desdichado

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Why the crap are you here, Peacenik? Because if you're all about peace, why does it look like you're trying to make 'war' on everyone here?
Because forum-goers react in a way that gives him his jollies.
 

Utah

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What is replacement theology?
Strangely, I am not remotely angry, just sad.

Insults are a very subjective matter. Being Jewish and being accused of 'anti-semitism', whatever that is, I don't take offence.

I love the Jews, just like anybody else, so your wild accusations tumble back on you.

I think forums are useful if you come to learn, but if you come to entrench further your entrenched views, without any notion of spiritual authority, or any desire to learn, then you are on a slippery slope.

I could say I feel sorry for you, but it is more appropriate for me to leave this worthless dead end conversation.
You're a Jew and don't know the meaning of antisemitism? That's like being a minnow not knowing about sharks.
 
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Tintin

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You need to watch your language as you befoul yourself with such nonsense. See Ephesians 4:29 and other references.

What I write is not fashionable or politically correct to those of you from the far right but it is the truth whether you like it or not. So do yourself a favor and either address the issue or refrain from posting nonsense.
Oh, grow up. You're ridiculous. I'm out of here.

Troll.
 

Utah

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This is precisely what other critics have said about the Catholic church for centuries.

I was just reading through Volume III of the Fundamentals - Rome, The Antagonist of the Nation by Rev John Foster [1917]. He wrote among other things, "Rome is the Nation's antagonist because it is a corrupt and corrupting system of falsehood and idolatry that pollutes our Land ... a political system of foreign despotism". The writer condemns the use of extraneous writings (called 'forgeries'), usurpation of the role of the Messiah, and like many writers here, praised war, condemned Islam for drawing people away from Christianity, claim that the religion undermines the influence of the Bible, and claims this is a Christian nation that has no place for other forms of thinking. Thus, the things you and other critics here say about Islam is precisely the same said about the RCC all this time. All that antagonism, all that hostility, all those conflicts, all that hate, and all the bloodletting that resulted from this attitude was all in vain. Eventually you will learn that all the negativity you and others have spewed towards Muslims will similarly be in vain.
Catholicism is the worst thing to ever happen to Christianity, but it's still not as demonically evil as Islam. And once again your threats of future peril for those who have faith in Jesus are null and void.
 

PlainWord

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Anyone who denies Jesus is Messiah is an antichrist. That means that Jews and others who deny Jesus is Messiah are also antichrists and we are commanded to refrain from dealing with them or you shall share in their evil. See 2 John 1:8-11.

As I have documented several times on this forum, only the Messiah can re-establish the Kingdom - this means Eretz Israel is NOT the regathered Kingdom we read about in the Bible.
That isn't what the passages say. The word, "Messiah" isn't used. Please read it again. They are liars, who deny Jesus is the Christ.

1 John 2: Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

2 John 1: For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Regathered Kingdom? What are you talking about?

 
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PlainWord

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Peacenik,

The "Kingdom" that Christ established is an everlasting kingdom. It never goes away.

Dan 7: [SUP]14 [/SUP]Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom the one Which shall not be destroyed.

Perhaps you mean the scattering of Israel? She has been brought back as Ezekiel predicted. They are now one people - Israel - no more tribes. Their name is one.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; [SUP]22 [/SUP]and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

As for the gathering when Christ returns, He gathers His ELECT.
 

PlainWord

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Catholicism is the worst thing to ever happen to Christianity, but it's still not as demonically evil as Islam. And once again your threats of future peril for those who have faith in Jesus are null and void.
Utah,

I think Peacenik isn't aware that when God passes judgment on ISLAM it will be complete and severe. He will kill every last member of Islam and the religion will be no more and the people who served her Beast will not only be killed but will be tortured day and night for eternity. This is the outcome for those who follow Muhammad, Islam's false prophet.

Rev 14:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, [SUP]10 [/SUP]he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Rev 19: [SUP]20 [/SUP]Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
 
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Clearly the Truth does make the deluded politically correct right wingers tremble. ;)
Your truth makes no one here tremble,at all. A lot of nonsense that only you believe in. Islam is demonic and thats the truth that anyone with eyes can see.
 

peacenik

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PlainWord; said:
Peacenik,

The "Kingdom" that Christ established is an everlasting kingdom. It never goes away.

Dan 7: [SUP]14 [/SUP]Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom the one Which shall not be destroyed.

Perhaps you mean the scattering of Israel? She has been brought back as Ezekiel predicted. They are now one people - Israel - no more tribes. Their name is one.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; [SUP]22 [/SUP]and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

As for the gathering when Christ returns, He gathers His ELECT.





Where is your proof that this was done by the Messiah? Why haven't that country's citizen's acknowledged the return of the Messiah and his actions in establishing this "kingdom"? Why do those people continue to deny Jesus is Messiah (unlike so many Muslims)? And since they continue in that denial, why do you suppose Christian professing types continue to defend them when Jesus said they are to refrain from any dealing with those who deny the Christ?
 

peacenik

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Your truth makes no one here tremble,at all. A lot of nonsense that only you believe in. Islam is demonic and thats the truth that anyone with eyes can see.


If Islam is demonic as you say then, I suppose, you feel that way about orthodox Jewry and other religions as well.
 

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This is precisely what other critics have said about the Catholic church for centuries.

I was just reading through Volume III of the Fundamentals - Rome, The Antagonist of the Nation by Rev John Foster [1917]. He wrote among other things, "Rome is the Nation's antagonist because it is a corrupt and corrupting system of falsehood and idolatry that pollutes our Land ... a political system of foreign despotism". The writer condemns the use of extraneous writings (called 'forgeries'), usurpation of the role of the Messiah, and like many writers here, praised war, condemned Islam for drawing people away from Christianity, claim that the religion undermines the influence of the Bible, and claims this is a Christian nation that has no place for other forms of thinking. Thus, the things you and other critics here say about Islam is precisely the same said about the RCC all this time. All that antagonism, all that hostility, all those conflicts, all that hate, and all the bloodletting that resulted from this attitude was all in vain. Eventually you will learn that all the negativity you and others have spewed towards Muslims will similarly be in vain.

Youre right, peacenik, from now on we should all embrace Islam.

Because its not Christ's words that most important, its making sure that no one ever has a chance to do evil when people are trying to do whats right.

Forget about the fate of those who turn from Christ, what really matters is that we never speak out against anything evil ever again.

You are grasping at anything for your cause here. I have proven that you are wrong about the call for war in the quran, I have proven that you are wrong that Islam believes in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, so now you are trying to make me look like a warmonger-er. All of this just so you could look like a loving, Godlike person.


Please, give me one verse in the Gospel where Christ ever either treated those practicing idolatry in an accepting way, or commanded us to be accepting of it. All you have done here is villainize those who speak out against Islam, acting as if you are a more righteous person for not doing so, all while seemingly having no idea why its important to do so.

Do you not worry about people being lead away from Christ? What is your priority? Who here said "hate the Muslims"? There have even been quotes from Jesus about loving your enemy. But love DOES NOT equal acceptance of every action and life choices.
 
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