Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Peters

[eternally-gratefull]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

The you are either a liar, or you don't know the Bible, or you haven't heard JP's false doctrines and what a deceiver he is.
Everytime the Bible proves him wrong , he says it's not for the Christians.

smh.

You have issues my friend.

If you want to go on attacking people like others. Continue

If you want to discuss the bible (which is what this place is intended for) then come talk to me.

WHy you people want to attack people. instead of discussing the word of God is beyond me.

 

[God4me]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

smh.

You have issues my friend.

If you want to go on attacking people like others. Continue

If you want to discuss the bible (which is what this place is intended for) then come talk to me.

WHy you people want to attack people. instead of discussing the word of God is beyond me.

My issue is totally Biblical,
"Mark them & avoid them".

Whereas your issue is, sticking up for false teachers.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

My issue is totally Biblical,
"Mark them & avoid them".

Whereas your issue is, sticking up for false teachers.

Your issue is you THINK you know who is a false teacher.

What you think does not matter.

So take it up with God.. or stick to the word..

 

[popeye]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Nothing wrong with exposing that.

I might but my point is,they,the exposers got their own junk hidden away.

 

[popeye]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

My issue is totally Biblical,
"Mark them & avoid them".

Whereas your issue is, sticking up for false teachers.

When I asked you to produce this vast false error of prince,all you did was say what rumors you heard once upon a time.

I would venture that you heard some hearsay,and acted on rumor,rather than actually researching it.

For example,post his organizations statement of faith. That should be a good starting point for a doctrinal purity exam.

Or some clip where he slams true doctrine,or is out in left field.

Why have I never heard such issues in the 8 or 10 times I heard him?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

When I asked you to produce this vast false error of prince,all you did was say what rumors you heard once upon a time.
I would venture that you heard some hearsay,and acted on rumor,rather than actually researching it.
For example,post his organizations statement of faith. That should be a good starting point for a doctrinal purity exam.
Or some clip where he slams true doctrine,or is out in left field.
Why have I never heard such issues in the 8 or 10 times I heard him?

Here's one from his book Destined to R̶u̶i̶n̶ Reign. There's no telling how much damage this lie has caused. His whole doctrine falls apart without this falsehood.

But what does 1 John 1:9 really say and to whom was it actually written?

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.​

People have taken this verse and built a whole doctrine around it when actually, chapter 1 of 1 John was written to the Gnostics, who were unbelievers. ​

That's it. No evidence, nothing. Completely unsupportable falsehood.

 

[God4me]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Your issue is you THINK you know who is a false teacher.

What you think does not matter.

So take it up with God.. or stick to the word..

A false teacher is someone who teaches things that aren't Biblical, and the false grace teachers don't teach the Biblical truths.
If you knew what the Bible says , and you knew what the false grace teachers teach , you would know they are wrong, and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[God4me]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

When I asked you to produce this vast false error of prince,all you did was say what rumors you heard once upon a time.

I would venture that you heard some hearsay,and acted on rumor,rather than actually researching it.

For example,post his organizations statement of faith. That should be a good starting point for a doctrinal purity exam.

Or some clip where he slams true doctrine,or is out in left field.

Why have I never heard such issues in the 8 or 10 times I heard him?

You don't have to believe what I have said about the false grace teachers, but it doesn't stop it being true.
And what I said about them, aren't rumours, they are facts.

 

[God4me]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Here's one from his book Destined to R̶u̶i̶n̶ Reign. There's no telling how much damage this lie has caused. His whole doctrine falls apart without this falsehood.

But what does 1 John 1:9 really say and to whom was it actually written?

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.​

People have taken this verse and built a whole doctrine around it when actually, chapter 1 of 1 John was written to the Gnostics, who were unbelievers. ​

That's it. No evidence, nothing. Completely unsupportable falsehood.

Every time the Bible proves JP wrong, he says it's not for the Christians, and 1 Jn 1: 8--10 is one of the scriptures that prove him wrong.
John was writing to Christians, not to agnostics.
The Bible wasn't written in chapter and verse, so if 1 Jn 1, wasn't for the Church, then neither was the other four chapters in 1 John.

 

[Grace777x70]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Here's one from his book Destined to R̶u̶i̶n̶ Reign. There's no telling how much damage this lie has caused. His whole doctrine falls apart without this falsehood.

But what does 1 John 1:9 really say and to whom was it actually written?

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.​

People have taken this verse and built a whole doctrine around it when actually, chapter 1 of 1 John was written to the Gnostics, who were unbelievers. ​

That's it. No evidence, nothing. Completely unsupportable falsehood.

Complete nonsense!

All these sources say the opposite of your claim. 1 John was written to address gnostic false teachings. Why do you continually post these false accusations against people?

Book of 1 John - Bible Survey

Intro to 1 John — Biblica

Who are the deceivers 1 John is written against, mentioned in 2:26? - Biblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange

https://bible.org/seriespage/introduction-1-john

https://carm.org/gnosticism

Gnosticism

https://www.gty.org/resources/bible-introductions/MSB62/1-john

There are literally dozens more but that should be enough to expose this foolishness.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Complete nonsense!

All these sources say the opposite of your claim. 1 John was written to address gnostic false teachings. Why do you continually post these false accusations against people?

Book of 1 John - Bible Survey
Intro to 1 John — Biblica
Who are the deceivers 1 John is written against, mentioned in 2:26? - Biblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange
https://bible.org/seriespage/introduction-1-john
https://carm.org/gnosticism
Gnosticism
https://www.gty.org/resources/bible-introductions/MSB62/1-john

There are literally dozens more but that should be enough to expose this foolishness.

You're not being honest. Those sources say that John was addressing the church regarding the heresies taught by the gnostics, who had since left the church.

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us. But [they went out], in order that it might be shown that all of them are not of us. 1 John 2:19​

 

[valiant]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Complete nonsense!

All these sources say the opposite of your claim. 1 John was written to address gnostic false teachings. Why do you continually post these false accusations against people?

Book of 1 John - Bible Survey

Intro to 1 John — Biblica

Who are the deceivers 1 John is written against, mentioned in 2:26? - Biblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange

https://bible.org/seriespage/introduction-1-john

https://carm.org/gnosticism

Gnosticism

https://www.gty.org/resources/bible-introductions/MSB62/1-john

There are literally dozens more but that should be enough to expose this foolishness.

I John 1 was written to believers AGAINST Gnostic teaching,

 

[Grace777x70]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

I John 1 was written to believers AGAINST Gnostic teaching,

Exactly! And in their meetings there would have been the true believers and unbelievers just like there is today. 1 John does address gnostic beliefs and safe guards the true believer.

Actually there are other epistles that address it too just not as profoundly as John does. Perhaps the reason is that John is the latest of the epistles and as time went by the gnostic teachings started to proliferate. I don't know..just taking a guess at that.

 

[popeye]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Evidently we all seem to think prince is ok doctrinally. Nothing meaningfully wrong with his sermons

 

[popeye]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

You don't have to believe what I have said about the false grace teachers, but it doesn't stop it being true.
And what I said about them, aren't rumours, they are facts.

Um, no,
What I don't believe is that you have done the research to substantiate your assertions

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Evidently we all seem to think prince is ok doctrinally. Nothing meaningfully wrong with his sermons

uh... no... Not even close

 

[Ariel82]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Here's one from his book Destined to R̶u̶i̶n̶ Reign. There's no telling how much damage this lie has caused. His whole doctrine falls apart without this falsehood.

But what does 1 John 1:9 really say and to whom was it actually written?

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.​

People have taken this verse and built a whole doctrine around it when actually, chapter 1 of 1 John was written to the Gnostics, who were unbelievers. ​

That's it. No evidence, nothing. Completely unsupportable falsehood.

Wow my world just got stranger....how can people not think that verse applies to them and their life?

Why wouldn't they want the assurance that if we confess our sins, God will forgive us.

Why would God address nonbelievers with that message?

So confused right now..gonna Just go back to reading my Bible and praying.

It's easier to,talk,to God than people most days.

 

[God4me]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Complete nonsense!

All these sources say the opposite of your claim. 1 John was written to address gnostic false teachings. Why do you continually post these false accusations against people?

Book of 1 John - Bible Survey

Intro to 1 John — Biblica

Who are the deceivers 1 John is written against, mentioned in 2:26? - Biblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange

https://bible.org/seriespage/introduction-1-john

https://carm.org/gnosticism

Gnosticism

https://www.gty.org/resources/bible-introductions/MSB62/1-john

There are literally dozens more but that should be enough to expose this foolishness.

Every Greek Bible scholars, plus the Bible itself, says 1 Jn 1 was written to the Church, Not to agnostics.
Only false teachers say it's written to agnostics, because it proves them wrong.
If 1 Jn 1 was written to agnostics, then so was the other 4 chapters of 1 Jn, as it's all one letter.

 

[God4me]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Um, no,
What I don't believe is that you have done the research to substantiate your assertions

Why would I need to research, as I have seen and heard J Price myself. I know he is a false grace teacher.
And the people who think JP's teaching is OK, either don't know the Bible, or they do know it and deliberately deceive people, either way shame on them.

 

[Grace777x70]

Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Every Greek Bible scholars, plus the Bible itself, says 1 Jn 1 was written to the Church, Not to agnostics.
Only false teachers say it's written to agnostics, because it proves them wrong.
If 1 Jn 1 was written to agnostics, then so was the other 4 chapters of 1 Jn, as it's all one letter.

What part of "1 John was written to address gnostic false teachings." is a mystery to you?

Of course John was writing to Christians and in his epistle he also addressed the false teachings of the gnostics who were in their midst just like today - there are true believers in Christ and unbelievers.

This was in response to another mis-informed poster who said that 1 John was not talking about gnostics.