Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Peters

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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Ariel82 said:
Hey it was already being plastered all over the forum. Thought talking points would be better than constant thread derailment when others want to discuss a different topic....not sure if it's working or not.

Sides I kind of miss Stillwaters, wonder what he is up too.
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LOL! right, so you added more ammo

how thoughtful of you

I see threads all over the place that already are point on the topic, so why would you stir this all up again?
 
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Ariel82 said:
Quoted from Grace777

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Walk in the knowledge of your forgiveness in Christ and in that security we will experience maturity."

I can do the above and still see that the verse applies to believers not Gnostic nonbelievers.
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I understand. I had the same thoughts...it's natural because of our church teachings backgrounds.

Let's "flesh" this out. Let's say that someone gets angry and swears in traffic. What happens if they have not asked for forgiveness for that sin? They die an hour later from a heart attack. What happens to them? Can we go to be with the Lord with sin that is unconfessed if we need to confess it in order to obtain forgiveness?
 
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LaurenTM said:
I answered you in the other thread where you basically said the same as above

I don't care how you view me, which is actually the opposite of how I think about other people. I care what people think and say,and how they feel

I have come to realize that none of that seems to matter to you

so why would I care? but that is why I do not care

maybe if you would quit your name calling and insults, it would get better for everyone here
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Without evidence of such, this is just an unsupported blanket accusation. We have to question the motives of people who continually do this.
 
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LaurenTM said:
LOL! right, so you added more ammo

how thoughtful of you

I see threads all over the place that already are point on the topic, so why would you stir this all up again?
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Why are you trying to find fault with her? What she does and why she does it is her business.
 
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God4me said:
A false teacher is someone who teaches things that aren't Biblical, and the false grace teachers don't teach the Biblical truths.
If you knew what the Bible says , and you knew what the false grace teachers teach , you would know they are wrong, and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Hagin was a grace emphasis teacher.

He almost NEVER addressed sin.

Just sayin
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Without evidence of such, this is just an unsupported blanket accusation. We have to question the motives of people who continually do this.
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you have placed evidence all over the place LOL!

your motives are what most here are questioning

I am hardly being questioned as the only thing I have questioned are why you and several others here lie, call names, slander and twist what others say

any clue as to why you do that? your response to me is a classic attempt to mirror what YOU in fact do

childish
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Why are you trying to find fault with her? What she does and why she does it is her business.
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uh uh nuh uh no you don't

I asked a question. how did I even know it was her?

give it a rest

I still question why someone would open up a thread from 2014 when the current threads deal with this topic

there is nothing new here at all. just the same ole same ole and that includes your attempt to blame others for what you do

I also question why you think you have become a moderator
 
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LaurenTM said:
uh uh nuh uh no you don't
I asked a question. how did I even know it was her?
give it a rest
I still question why someone would open up a thread from 2014 when the current threads deal with this topic

there is nothing new here at all. just the same ole same ole and that includes your attempt to blame others for what you do

I also question why you think you have become a moderator
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How do you know it the same old same old when you've only been here 2 weeks?
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Why don"t you provide some specific examples for our edification, instead of just throwing out a blanket unsupported accusation? There is a small group here that does that to try to stir up trouble in order to shut down discussion that reveals the weakness of its position. We certainly don't want to view you as being part of that clique.

Thank you for your support.
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2941770


That is funny to imagine (especially long after highschool)
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PilgrimPassingThru said:
2941770


That is funny to imagine (especially long after highschool)
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Gertrude: Thelma. That man just called you a windbag.
Thelma: That's alright Gertrude. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me (That #@%%&*@, I kill him when I get my hands on him).
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
How do you know it the same old same old when you've only been here 2 weeks?
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because I can read as can anyone else

do you have any idea of the shear number of posts made by you?

interesting reading

two weeks, two months, two years...you have been here since 2012
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Gertrude: Thelma. That man just called you a windbag.
Thelma: That's alright Gertrude. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me (That #@%%&*@, I kill him when I get my hands on him).
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Yeah, I think you got it, sounds like what you see a clique of bitter old hens there huh? LOL

When I saw it I thought, that pic just ressembles that perfectly.

And sorry I didnt acknowledge your comment somehow I lost this one, I forgot which thread I had posted it on, I do that occassionally lol
 
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LaurenTM said:
while we are at it, who resurrected this old thread just to get things riled up again?

I question the motive on that one :p
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Yes.

I was surprised she did that,but hank Hannegraff is one of her guides. So,that explains a lot.
 
Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

LaurenTM said:
LOL! right, so you added more ammo

how thoughtful of you

I see threads all over the place that already are point on the topic, so why would you stir this all up again?
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I like the videos, if you aren't interested why are you posting?
 
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popeye said:
Yes.

I was surprised she did that,but hank Hannegraff is one of her guides. So,that explains a lot.
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Who in the world is Hank Hannegraff?
 
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Ariel82 said:
Who in the world is Hank Hannegraff?
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I seem to remember you posting his "expose' " vids in the past.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
I understand. I had the same thoughts...it's natural because of our church teachings backgrounds.

Let's "flesh" this out. Let's say that someone gets angry and swears in traffic. What happens if they have not asked for forgiveness for that sin? They die an hour later from a heart attack. What happens to them? Can we go to be with the Lord with sin that is unconfessed if we need to confess it in order to obtain forgiveness?
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Now you are reading into the verse,.,it doesn't say you HAVE to confess to be forgiven.

It reassures you that if you do confess, God will welcome you back with open arms.

I guess I never looked at it as a commandment or law that you HAD to confess to be forgiven.

Personally I always saw God's hand in my conviction, repentance and confession of any sin. If God didn't reach out like the loving Father He is, then I would continue to sin against my brothers and sisters and hurt them by my words and actions, I would continue to do,things my way and not God's way through my pride and arrogance.

I would make assumptions about others, throw stones and judge them for faults I myself display through my words, thoughts and actions.

Instead God has taught me to see God's love and grace when He first convicts me,out my sins, I see His wisdom when I repent of my sins and I am revived in His love when I confess to Him my transgressions for He heals and restored me.

Death isn't the end, it's the beginning of eternity with God face to face.

I know this life is but a journey I travel for my Heavenly Father. I am His ambassador reminding people that our Father is calling us back home through the work of His son Jesus Christ who died for our sins so that we might approach the throne cleansed and holy.

It hurts my heart to watch people each candy coated dung and pretend that it's from God.

This life is temporary. God's promises are for eternity.

If you lust for material wealth, earthly power and prestige in this world, then you are an enemy of God.
 
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Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

Grace777x70 said:
Good morning Ahwatukee!...can I ask you what your name means? It's different - I always have to double-check to make sure I spell it right!
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Hi Grace777,

Ahwatukee is a township of Phoenix, which is actually about 20 miles south of downtown Phoenix. Supposedly the name is related to an Indian name, but no one knows where the name came from or what the proper pronunciation is. What I do no is that all of the businesses and neon signs say "Ahwatukee." Ahwatukee is referred to as one big cud-de-sac and that because everything on the west side of the 10 fwy is Ahwatukee and on the east side is Chandler. It sits on the south side of South Mountain bordering the Indian reservation. That's probably a lot more information than you were looking for.
 
Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

A Warning sign in Jeremiah time , also can be seen in this very day.

False teachers continue with the same strategic moves, would you agree ???

Jeremiah 5:26-28 'For wicked men are found among My people, They watch like fowlers lying in wait; They set a trap, They catch men.Like a cage full of birds, So their houses are full of deceit; Therefore they have become great and rich. They are fat, they are sleek, They also excel in deeds of wickedness; They do not plead the cause, The cause of the orphan, that they may prosper; And they do not defend the rights of the poor.

Shalom
 
Re: Word of Faith: "Metaphysical" "Gnostic" "Cultic" "Not really Christian"-Justin Pe

popeye said:
Hagin was a grace emphasis teacher.

He almost NEVER addressed sin.

Just sayin
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K Hagin was a Biblical grace Teacher, NOT a false grace teacher.
Why would we Biblical grace Teachers want to teach on sin, when there are so many wonderful blessings in the Bible to teach on.
But unlike the false grace teachers, we do present Biblicaly balanced teachings.
 
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