Take the sermon on the mount for example. People say Jesus is expanding the law of the Old Testament but this is not entirely true. On one level He is in the way it was taught then. But the reality is Jesus does not teach anything on the mount that can not be taught from the Law in the Old testament. Its all there. The Jews missed it so Jesus in that sense expands but it is the same as the Old Covenant teaching.
Dietary Laws?
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Yes. Eat. And eat as eating to and for and because of The Lotd. Do everything to His honor and glory and you will NOT fail
But if ever there is any doubt in what you are doing or wanting to do...DO NOT DO IT!
For anything done with doubt is outside of faith and therefore is a sin
yoy will find this message in Romans as well
But if ever there is any doubt in what you are doing or wanting to do...DO NOT DO IT!
For anything done with doubt is outside of faith and therefore is a sin
yoy will find this message in Romans as well
Ok, since you think I "lifted" a passage out of context, let's look at the whole passage.....
That passage is obviously talking about people who try to bind "rules" on others. One of the rules that the Judaizers were trying to impose was the whole dietary thing... another was the keeping of certain "holy days"....
We are taught that God does not have a set "law" regarding those things.... He "welcomes", or accepts us regardless of whether we eat meats, or only vegetables, or whatever.
In your haste to argue every jot and tittle, you have missed the message of our freedom in Christ. You want to Judaize the church that Jesus started, and go back to the law.
I pray that you will come away from that mindset, as it leads to destruction....
That passage is obviously talking about people who try to bind "rules" on others. One of the rules that the Judaizers were trying to impose was the whole dietary thing... another was the keeping of certain "holy days"....
We are taught that God does not have a set "law" regarding those things.... He "welcomes", or accepts us regardless of whether we eat meats, or only vegetables, or whatever.
In your haste to argue every jot and tittle, you have missed the message of our freedom in Christ. You want to Judaize the church that Jesus started, and go back to the law.
I pray that you will come away from that mindset, as it leads to destruction....
People generally don't have ears to hear what the Law is saying. Especially those who think they are obeying the Law.
The Lord is magnifying the Law in His Sermon on the Mount. So that people without ears to hear may begin to hear it, a little.
Surprisingly, those who think they obey the commandments seem to make light of this Sermon. They say the Lord just wants us to try our best. Anyone who has read the OT knows that the Law doesn't say "just try your best".
That's known as having ears but not hearing.
The Lord is magnifying the Law in His Sermon on the Mount. So that people without ears to hear may begin to hear it, a little.
Surprisingly, those who think they obey the commandments seem to make light of this Sermon. They say the Lord just wants us to try our best. Anyone who has read the OT knows that the Law doesn't say "just try your best".
That's known as having ears but not hearing.
Pork was never considered "food" by God or according to His Law. Just like human feces were never considered "food."
So when Jesus makes "all foods clean" in Mark 7:19, he isn't talking about pork or shellfish or human feces. He's talking about "food" that had been considered unclean by the Pharisees.
Also, Acts 10 isn't about "food" at all, rather about men as Peter says in verse 28.
God wouldn't create an animal to be physically and biologically "unclean" upon creation, and then decide that what He had made biologically unclean was now clean. That would undermine is creative perfection.
So when Jesus makes "all foods clean" in Mark 7:19, he isn't talking about pork or shellfish or human feces. He's talking about "food" that had been considered unclean by the Pharisees.
Also, Acts 10 isn't about "food" at all, rather about men as Peter says in verse 28.
God wouldn't create an animal to be physically and biologically "unclean" upon creation, and then decide that what He had made biologically unclean was now clean. That would undermine is creative perfection.
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I do agree with you. Bc when the NT was written they followed the OT with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.. It was never done away with, just enlightened were the ones who wanted to follow Christ for salvation. Acts they gave the new believers 4 of the laws to keep immediately but didn't want to put too much on them at 1 time.. Mat 13:52 also says referring to the OT laws is wise even tho Christ set up some new ways...
Whitewashing has run rampant and it will unfortunately be to their own demise..
Food, I don't eat everything bc the animals that are on the no list are the filthy ones that eat anything. All that is absorbed into them.. makes me cringe just to think about it... That's a personal choice..
I also think it's wise to read up on Jewish culture bc I don't believe the early church scratched all traditional methods and made entirely new ones... It would have been recorded.. If it was important to leave all behind
Whitewashing has run rampant and it will unfortunately be to their own demise..
Food, I don't eat everything bc the animals that are on the no list are the filthy ones that eat anything. All that is absorbed into them.. makes me cringe just to think about it... That's a personal choice..
I also think it's wise to read up on Jewish culture bc I don't believe the early church scratched all traditional methods and made entirely new ones... It would have been recorded.. If it was important to leave all behind
Hello KohenMatt,
He was talking about everything that was on the "Do not eat list" under the law and pork was on that list. ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL food is good and acceptable if it is received with thanksgiving and nothing is to be rejected. As believers in Christ we are not under the law. We are not saved by the works of the law, which is what you would be doing if you are attempting to keep the food laws, the feasts, holy days, Sabbaths and anything else that you are trying to gain favor with God for. We are just not under the law in any way shape or form people! We died with Christ and therefore the law no longer has power over us. Whenever you bring your own efforts along side of Christ sacrifice as a requirement for salvation, you are basically saying Christ's sacrifice was insufficient. He doesn't need our help, as He provided salvation for us by the shedding of His blood and He also met the righteous requirements of the law on our behalf. We are fee from the curse of the law!
That's exactly what God did and that because whatever he says is unclean, is unclean. And whatever He says is clean is clean. The law which God gave to Israel says the same thing about being in the presence of Gentiles, as well as eating with them and God changed that.
He was talking about everything that was on the "Do not eat list" under the law and pork was on that list. ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL food is good and acceptable if it is received with thanksgiving and nothing is to be rejected. As believers in Christ we are not under the law. We are not saved by the works of the law, which is what you would be doing if you are attempting to keep the food laws, the feasts, holy days, Sabbaths and anything else that you are trying to gain favor with God for. We are just not under the law in any way shape or form people! We died with Christ and therefore the law no longer has power over us. Whenever you bring your own efforts along side of Christ sacrifice as a requirement for salvation, you are basically saying Christ's sacrifice was insufficient. He doesn't need our help, as He provided salvation for us by the shedding of His blood and He also met the righteous requirements of the law on our behalf. We are fee from the curse of the law!
That's exactly what God did and that because whatever he says is unclean, is unclean. And whatever He says is clean is clean. The law which God gave to Israel says the same thing about being in the presence of Gentiles, as well as eating with them and God changed that.
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From the very beginning of creation, God created some things to "food" and others not. So when Jesus made all "food" clean, he wasn't talking about pork.
Otherwise, feces are clean to eat. Human feces are clean to eat. Humans are clean to eat.
Those who say that all food is unclean would have no problem with people eating any of those things.
Otherwise, feces are clean to eat. Human feces are clean to eat. Humans are clean to eat.
Those who say that all food is unclean would have no problem with people eating any of those things.
Sorry, but it is my studied opinion that you are about a half-bubble off plumb....
Of course, you COULD be simply being snarky and sarcastic.... which adds nothing to the scriptural content I have offered.
Go ahead and insist on keeping the old law.... that is a salvation-issue decision you are making.
Of course, you COULD be simply being snarky and sarcastic.... which adds nothing to the scriptural content I have offered.
Go ahead and insist on keeping the old law.... that is a salvation-issue decision you are making.
It's not a salvation issue at all. I can't have salvation because of obedience to anything; Old Testament or New. My salvation lies solely in the grace and mercy given to me by Jesus' life, death and resurrection. Nothing else. Those who make obedience to the Law a salvation-issue are completely wrong (Romans 8:3.)
Now after that salvation, the question becomes, "how should I live?"
Now after that salvation, the question becomes, "how should I live?"
You live how YOUR conscience tells you to live, guided by the Holy Spirit.
What you DON'T do is try to bind YOUR conscience on other believers.
I know people that think if a woman wears anything other than a dress to church, she's sinning.
I know others that think if you drink anything alcoholic, you are sinning.
Others think if you have "Sunday School" you are sinning....
We cannot bind matters of judgment and conscience on other believers. You might as well go all out, and call yourself Pope Kohen...
What you DON'T do is try to bind YOUR conscience on other believers.
I know people that think if a woman wears anything other than a dress to church, she's sinning.
I know others that think if you drink anything alcoholic, you are sinning.
Others think if you have "Sunday School" you are sinning....
We cannot bind matters of judgment and conscience on other believers. You might as well go all out, and call yourself Pope Kohen...
All men are like beasts, and consuming their doctrine is like eating their flesh.
Ecclesiastes 3:18
I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
Lamb is good....
John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Dogs and swine is bad....
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
Takes the meaning of clean and unclean beasts from the shadows to a new spiritual level.
Ecclesiastes 3:18
I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
Lamb is good....
John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Dogs and swine is bad....
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
Takes the meaning of clean and unclean beasts from the shadows to a new spiritual level.