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I can see you have no intention of listening and trying understand what I am saying you appear to just want to argue either that or you really don't hear what I am saying. Honestly I get this strange feeling Johnlove was banned and your one of his alternate accounts and I am not saying this is true by any means i just have to be honest
We are spiritually one with Lord by the Holy Spirit in our spirits. There is no separation in the Spirit. We have our new spirit within us when we received and it is both inside of us and one with Christ at the same time seated with Him in heaven.
This is not something you understand with our natural mind. It is spiritually discerned.
And of course to those that only use their natural mind - the truth of being one with the Lord and being in heaven too is "gnostic"....it's the nature of the beast.
We are to set our minds ( a part of our soul ) on things above where we are seated with Christ now. The inner man created in Christ is the new creation and it was created in righteousness and holiness.
1 Corinthians 6:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Keeping our minds on spiritual realities that are in Christ because we are in Him - will transforms us. Romans 12:2
Colossians 3:1-3 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
This is not something you understand with our natural mind. It is spiritually discerned.
And of course to those that only use their natural mind - the truth of being one with the Lord and being in heaven too is "gnostic"....it's the nature of the beast.
We are to set our minds ( a part of our soul ) on things above where we are seated with Christ now. The inner man created in Christ is the new creation and it was created in righteousness and holiness.
1 Corinthians 6:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Keeping our minds on spiritual realities that are in Christ because we are in Him - will transforms us. Romans 12:2
Colossians 3:1-3 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
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actually I think he is correct in this. You know I look in the mirror everyday and everyday I feel like I am looking at a total stranger I don't recognize the person I see in the mirror and can't even look in my own eyes for to long before turning away because I feel like I am staring at a different person and it becomes awkward.
This didn't beginto happen until I began to try to believe who God says I am and perhaps this is why I only see a stranger in the mirror because when i see the person I used to see when I looked in the mirror I only saw a loser an ugly person a filthy wretched worm but then when I think of what God would say of me or see when he looks at me what he thinks when he thinks of me it's the exact opposite
This didn't beginto happen until I began to try to believe who God says I am and perhaps this is why I only see a stranger in the mirror because when i see the person I used to see when I looked in the mirror I only saw a loser an ugly person a filthy wretched worm but then when I think of what God would say of me or see when he looks at me what he thinks when he thinks of me it's the exact opposite
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The problem begins when people look at the promises of God which we are told to look forward to and they lump them with the salvation of us as being afar off.. The actual catching up is.. but the work of making sure your soul will be saved is a process for now.. We are not "set" to be saved just bc we say some prayer.. It's a process to work out the corruption in our souls.. If you believe that Christ died for you to attain the promises that if you do it you'll receive it, you will in fact receive it...
You are not saved by works alone..
You're saved bc you believe that if you press to transform your soul, and live a life that pleases God bc you are becoming like His son, you'll be saved... Huge difference
You are not saved by works alone..
You're saved bc you believe that if you press to transform your soul, and live a life that pleases God bc you are becoming like His son, you'll be saved... Huge difference
I didn't mean to make a false accusation I simply spoke what I was feeling and I would rather be honest and be seen as making a false accusation than to be dishonest. I told you this with no intention of accusing I only was being honest and if I appeared to be making an accusation I sincerely apologize if I did accuse id so in ignorance but that doesn't excuse it. However can you explain to me where and how I have attacked you?
Yes...it some people's natural minds..and apparently so was the Lord Jesus Christ "gnostic" as well..Here He is praying that as the Father and Him are one so we also would be one with them. I'm sure His prayer was answered...selah
John 17:21 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
John 17:21 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.