Is the Devil bound right now...?
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The rules of Greek grammar were well established before the NT was ever written.
If you think that you can thwart what I have presented, then go for it....
Improper use of scripture to prove a point.
The author of this vid uses PRE-CROSS scripture to justify that Satan is still roaming the earth.
How hard is it for you people to accept that Jesus' whole mission was to bind Satan at The Cross?!
The more you deny....the more praises you heap upon Satan....he's not even here in person, and yet you treat him like he is.....what better deception is that?
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SteelToedKodiak
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Improper accusation that I'm praising satan.... other than that I leave you to your opinion.
What would you call something that is taken away from Jesus' deity and then applied to Satan...?
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SteelToedKodiak
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Of course you would...because you unscripturally think Satan is roaming free...
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SteelToedKodiak
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Look around. Satan is roaming free within the limited constraints of the will of God. Ease off the pedal soldier, you may be assuming that you know me, and my heart.
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SteelToedKodiak
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If you'd watched the video you would have noticed the fact made that Jesus did not dispute that satan could have legally given Him the kingdoms of this world...you take it from there.
:hrmm: bad translation
even the greeks and the jews would not accept it
as it is written
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Mga Taga-Roma: 16. 19. For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
20. And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
. ... thats why
our lord christ jesus our saviour the only begotten son of god
told this to peter and unto the
the apostle of the gentiles
as it is written
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Mga Gawa: 5. 3. But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Mga Gawa: 4. 13. Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
Mga Gawa: 26. 15. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17. Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
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godbless us all always
even the greeks and the jews would not accept it
as it is written
:read:
Mga Taga-Roma: 16. 19. For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
20. And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
. ... thats why
our lord christ jesus our saviour the only begotten son of god
told this to peter and unto the
the apostle of the gentiles
as it is written
:read:
Mga Gawa: 5. 3. But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Mga Gawa: 4. 13. Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
Mga Gawa: 26. 15. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
16. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
17. Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
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godbless us all always
Rev 12:13, and when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,
The dragon is not allowed in heaven, but he roams on earth.
He was cast down on the Day of Pentecost.
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Rev 20:3 & 8, The dragon is cast down to earth (abyss) from heaven,(Pentecost)
In THIS passage, the dragon is limited ONLY that he cannot return to heaven, and that he cannot deceive Magog into surrounding Jerusalem and the camp of the saints until the proper time. The restoration of Israel to Jerusalem.
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The surrounding of Jerusalem and the camp of the saints is happening now.
lol how would the video know, Why should Jesus deal with the Devil's lies?. He gave a direct answer from Scripture,
The rulers of the world are appointed by GOD (Rom 13)
he did not directly say that, He said you were deceived into doing something that meant you were indirectly heaping praises on Satan,
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SteelToedKodiak
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Whew, that's a relief cuz "indirectly heaping" praises on Satan is much more acceptable. You know where satan is? Let's hear it. Jesus said the throne of satan is in what is now known as Turkey in Rev 2, Jesus said that's the place he dwells. You're argument is satan was bound after Jesus was crucified. Just provide script proving that and we're done hair band rocker.
Rev 12 is the same repeated story in Revelation.
Rev 12 states that Satan was bound.
Neither verse states that.
Not in the Greek....not in English...
:hrmm: either both literal and spiritual
no written words sayings that satan is been bound
in this passage
as it is written
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Pahayag: 12. 1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
~;> MEANING
ANYONE THAT SAYS SATAN IS BOUND RIGHT NOW
IS DISREGARDING THE VERY TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST
AND THE VERY COMMANDMENTS OF GOD
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godbless us all always
no written words sayings that satan is been bound
in this passage
as it is written
:read:
Pahayag: 12. 1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
~;> MEANING
ANYONE THAT SAYS SATAN IS BOUND RIGHT NOW
IS DISREGARDING THE VERY TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST
AND THE VERY COMMANDMENTS OF GOD
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godbless us all always
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