Jude has the best title for hyper grace!

[Grace777x70]

Here is a great video about 36 minutes long that tells why "behavior matters". It will bless you and keep you strong in the faith in order to contend for it as Jude tells us in his epistle.



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[Th0mas]

Colossians 2:

18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

Matthew 5:

40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.

John 12:50

I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say."

Matthew 7:

26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand.
27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."

Part of John 14:24

Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching.

 

[1LonelyKnight]

VVhat teachings? Can you specify exactly? VVhat is it that you are obedient to that others are failing at, if thats the angle you're taking? VVho has said to be disobedient to God?

Repentance is a boast in the flesh is a disobedience for the command to repent. Biblegateway has a nice search tool - use it to look up 'repent'. Blueletterbible.org is a nice concordance - use it to study a little deeper.

Jeremiah 8:6 I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle.

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Cain's works were evil because he brought his own self-effort instead of relying on the way that God has ordained things.

No, Cain's works were evil because he did not do as God instructed, which was to do good and be accepted. The opposite of doing good is doing evil. The result of disobeying God's command had him turned over to that Wicked one and doing Satan's desire, with sin reigning over him and he becoming a servant of sin.

Cain thought he could save himself by "what he did and produced" - just like modern day D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness mindsets.

Nah, that is just Hyper gracers twist on scripture, which they do often to promote their perverted gospel message. There is no mention of Cain thinking he could save himself by what he did, that is just trying to inject a false notion into scripture by adding words and ideas that is not even there. Cain did evil and was evil because he was of the Wicked one. The works a man does proves whom he is of, wether doing evil proving one is of that Wicked one, or doing righteousness proving one is of God. By their works you shall know them.

 

[LaurenTM]

Someone else watches The Mary Tyler Moore Show reruns?!!!!???

is that where he got it from?

well, better then being told you bore me I guess...LOL!

 

[valiant]

No, Cain's works were evil because he did not do as God instructed, which was to do good and be accepted. The opposite of doing good is doing evil. The result of disobeying God's command had him turned over to that Wicked one and doing Satan's desire, with sin reigning over him and he becoming a servant of sin.



Nah, that is just Hyper gracers twist on scripture, which they do often to promote their perverted gospel message. There is no mention of Cain thinking he could save himself by what he did, that is just trying to inject a false notion into scripture by adding words and ideas that is not even there. Cain did evil and was evil because he was of the Wicked one. The works a man does proves whom he is of, wether doing evil proving one is of that Wicked one, or doing righteousness proving one is of God. By their works you shall know them.

Cain was an example of all unbelievers who are condemned by law (Rom 1.18-3.20). He refused to throw himself on the grace of God (Rom 3.24-5). He refused to believe God and have righteousness accounted to him (Rom 4.1-5)

 

[valiant]

Jude 4-5 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not."


Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

God told Cain if he did well=doing good, that he would be accepted, but if he did not do well=not doing good, then Satan's desire would become his desire=sin.

Genesis 4:7
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

So why was Cain not accepted and cast out?

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous."


Doing good or evil matters.

yes to those under law it does Matter. But if he had believed God he would have been accounted righteous apart from law (Rom 5.12-21_.

 

[Grace777x70]

Cain was an example of all unbelievers who are condemned by law (Rom 1.18-3.20). He refused to throw himself on the grace of God (Rom 3.24-5). He refused to believe God and have righteousness accounted to him (Rom 4.1-5)

Agreed.. unfortunately there are some today that still "go the way of Cain" by trying to be acceptable to God by their own self-effort and a D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness.

But we are of those that believe in what Christ has already done and we trust in His completed work for us! He is worthy to receive all glory and honor and praise. His life in us is more then enough as the Holy Spirit leads us in this life as we are children of God because of the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Stephen63]

From What is hyper-grace?

Question: "What is hyper-grace?"

Answer: The term hyper-grace has been used to describe a new wave of teaching that emphasizes the grace of God to the exclusion of other vital teachings such as repentance and confession of sin. Hyper-grace teachers maintain that all sin, past, present, and future, has already been forgiven, so there is no need for a believer to ever confess it. Hyper-grace teaching says that, when God looks at us, He sees only a holy and righteous people. The conclusion of hyper-grace teaching is that we are not bound by Jesus’ teaching, even as we are not under the Law; that believers are not responsible for their sin; and that anyone who disagrees is a pharisaical legalist. In short, hyper-grace teachers “pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality” (Jude 1:4) and flirt with antinomianism.

Yep..... Jude has a name for it.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Agreed.. unfortunately there are some today that still "go the way of Cain" by trying to be acceptable to God by their own self-effort and a D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness.

But we are of those that believe in what Christ has already done and we trust in His completed work for us! He is worthy to receive all glory and honor and praise. His life in us is more then enough as the Holy Spirit leads us in this life as we are children of God because of the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

It seems to start with jealousy. He was jealous because his brother received Gods' approval, so he also wanted that. But, not really understanding how it was, or why, that God approved, he sought to gain Gods' approval in a manner that did not give him what he desired. So he killed his brother, jealous of what he could not have, so he aimed to steal it from his brother.

This follows a lot of arguments here too. But as the apostle said - you don't have what you want because you don't ask. And then, even when you ask, you ask with the wrong motives. Cains motive for wanting what his brother had was jealousy. Wrong motive.

And we find it ever-repeating. Only through trust in Jesus do we receive the same approval that Abel received. But if we don't have that approval and our brother does, we scheme to steal it from him by just insisting that he DOESN'T have Gods' approval and getting others to agree with us that it is NOT by faith from start to finish and that it is NOT the way to gain Gods' approval.

Then it becomes slander against Gods' marvelous grace toward us, saying that to teach this gospel of grace is to increase sin, when it is the ONLY thing God wants from us - to believe in the One He sent and to hold fast to this until He comes again. To look to Him for everything concerning us, from start to finish.

Romans 3 tells us what Gods' purpose was in giving the law. It was to make men see they were guilty. So if a man then takes great pains to obey that law, despite what he claims, he has missed the entire point OF that law being given. Turning back to the law is missing the point and missing the One who that law points TO. It truly is to fail to see the time of visitation. To then slander Gods' grace to us through Christ and begin saying that His grace must not be so heavily taught or it will lead to lawlessness, is to trample on the blood and say it is an unworthy thing. It is to call the blood that makes us holy to be UNHOLY.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

From What is hyper-grace?

Question: "What is hyper-grace?"

Answer: The term hyper-grace has been used to describe a new wave of teaching that emphasizes the grace of God to the exclusion of other vital teachings such as repentance and confession of sin. Hyper-grace teachers maintain that all sin, past, present, and future, has already been forgiven, so there is no need for a believer to ever confess it. Hyper-grace teaching says that, when God looks at us, He sees only a holy and righteous people. The conclusion of hyper-grace teaching is that we are not bound by Jesus’ teaching, even as we are not under the Law; that believers are not responsible for their sin; and that anyone who disagrees is a pharisaical legalist. In short, hyper-grace teachers “pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality” (Jude 1:4) and flirt with antinomianism.

Yep..... Jude has a name for it.

It is so bizarre to say that those who teach faith in Gods' grace to us through Christ is to pervert Gods' grace...
The word says that we are made right with God, from start to finish, through faith in His grace through Christ.
When in actuality, it is to pervert it to say that this is NOT the way we are made right with God.
From start to finish. That's what God says.

 

[Stephen63]

It is so bizarre to say that those who teach faith in Gods' grace to us through Christ is to pervert Gods' grace...
The word says that we are made right with God, from start to finish, through faith in His grace through Christ.
When in actuality, it is to pervert it to say that this is NOT the way we are made right with God.
From start to finish. That's what God says.

Hypergrace is NOT God's Grace..... it is a grace replacement theology. Such false teachings always says their version is the original version & then twists scripture to spread their lies. This is how many false teachers/cults explain their beliefs.

 

[valiant]

From What is hyper-grace?

Question: "What is hyper-grace?"

Answer: The term hyper-grace has been used to describe a new wave of teaching that emphasizes the grace of God to the exclusion of other vital teachings such as repentance and confession of sin.

Good I'm not hyper grace, although I believe in salvation totally by the grace of God., along with repentance and confession of sin.

Hyper-grace teachers maintain that all sin, past, present, and future, has already been forgiven,

oops I must be hyper grace,. ALL my sin is covered.

so there is no need for a believer to ever confess it.

but Jesus bade us confess it to our Father (not our judge) Matt 6.

Hyper-grace teaching says that, when God looks at us, He sees only a holy and righteous people.

oops I am hyper grace,

The conclusion of hyper-grace teaching is that we are not bound by Jesus’ teaching, even as we are not under the Law;

No we are bound by Jesus teaching but we are not under the Law (being judged by the Law).

that believers are not responsible for their sin;

we are responsible to our Father not our Judge,
.Big difference

and that anyone who disagrees is a pharisaical legalist.

lol

In short, hyper-grace teachers “pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality” (Jude 1:4) and flirt with antinomianism

.

That is YOUR interpretation I don't think that is true of me

Yep..... Jude has a name for it.

verse 24 explains it. Kept by the power of God.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

God says we are made right with Him through faith in His grace toward us through Christ, from start to finish.
There is to be no starting in grace and faith in it, and then trying to finish building on any different foundation.
From start to finish, it is all done through faith.
THIS IS THE GOSPEL.
It is a race of faith and nothing but faith. Continuing faith, growing faith.
The obedience to Christ IS faith in Him, what He has done, and what He continues to do, for us.

 

[AuntieAnt]

There is no way grace can be too deep, too much, too amazing, too hyper, too sure, too perfect, too intense, too anything.

It is the best description of the Father's love.

Its expected, I am not interested in the back and forths so much, just touching upon what I observed as far as the grace of God verses the grace of Prince might go (in respects to the issue).

I actually should have ignored the response, so I am at fault in responding to her provocation.

Ben, I couldnt agree or disagree with what I dont understand concerning what you are talking about, so it might be best to just leave off of the discussion.

I was just stating from an observers point of view that I dont believe some of the folks who have a problem have one with Gods grace just anothers kind of grace.

And with that I will leave off of the discussion itself.

Joidevivre, amen to your comment! Glory to God! No way the grace of Christ can be too much, too amazing, too deep, too hyper.

And it caused my heart to hurt yesterday when I read how PilgrimPassingThru tried to graciously retreat from the thread and yet was repeatedly provoked to defend herself. I think grace should have been shown to our sister so she could leave the thread with honor and respect.

What good to show love and grace only to those who agree with you? Even worldly people are able to do that.

(Joidevivre, my last comment not referring to you, sis! )

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Faith in Him, who IS the door. No other climbing in a different way. By faith in Him ONLY.
For EVERYTHING.
Even for growth in holiness through the renewing of our minds.
Faith in our Lamb.
Faith, faith, faith.
Nothing else.
THAT is the gospel.

 

[Grace777x70]

This is to show what the truth is concerning the false allegations about the so-called hyper-grace of God. I must have posted this over a dozen times and yet some people still say the opposite of what is the truth.

So, to keep the malice and slander down to a minimum - here is a great article about the so-called hyper-grace.

Why I am Hyper-Grace: Answering Five Common Objections

Is Hyper-Grace “dangerous” or “imbalanced”?

Author: Jeremy White/Thursday, August 21, 2014/Categories: Jeremy White, Top Picks


Introduction:

In recent times, a label has surfaced regarding what some view as a “dangerous” or “imbalanced” teaching of the grace of God. “Hyper-Grace” is now a term being used to suggest that there are some folks (such as myself) who “take God’s grace too far” and in so doing either ignore or minimize other significant teachings of the Bible.

What follows is an attempt to address a few of the most common “warnings” some have offered regarding those of us who make much of the finished work of Christ.

Objection #1: The Hyper-Grace Gospel is Unbiblical

For starters, you may be shocked to discover that “hyper-grace” is really the only adequate description for grace in the first place, according to the Bible. For example, when Paul wrote in Romans 5:20 that “…where sin increased, grace increased all the more” he was literally referring to God’s grace as “hyper.”

The Greek term for the phrase “increased all the more” (NIV) is huper-perisseuo which literally means “super-abounded.” Hyper is simply a transliteration of the prefix “huper” in Greek and means “above and beyond” in scope or quality. The term “perisseuo” refers to that which is “in far excess of what might be expected, superfluous or gratuitous.”

So in Paul’s description of God’s amazing grace, he is literally saying that because of the abundance of sin in this world, God’s grace has super-abounded in order to rescue us from sin! Paul literally describes God’s grace as HYPER in this passage. It is super-abundant and unfathomably plentiful and powerful. In fact, a few verses later Paul would state that the very reason sin is no longer our master is because we are no longer under law, but under this hyper-abounding grace (Rom. 6:14)!

If this is what one means by “hyper-grace,” then count me in as one of the “grace-heretics!” It is a label that was applied to both Paul and Jesus by the Pharisees of their day, so I am more than happy to wear it in ours. As the late scholar D. Martin Lloyd-Jones famously pointed out (andthis is my paraphrase), "If people do not sometimes misunderstand and falsely accuse you of being soft-on-sin or against God’s law, you are not preaching the real gospel!"


Objection #2: Hyper-Grace Preachers are Soft on Sin

This is a common one, of course. The idea here is that because of our high esteem of the finished work of Christ and our insistence upon keeping our eyes fixated on Jesus as Author and Finisher of our faith (Heb. 12:2), we are either afraid to preach against sin or do not take sin seriously enough.

Far from being “soft on sin” – we who preach grace are extremely big on Jesus. Any gospel worthy of the hyper-grace label is a gospel which points all fingers toward Jesus rather than judgmentally pointing them at those He came to save.

There are definitely many contexts in which it is appropriate to talk about sin, warn about sin and preach against sin. I do this routinely in my preaching ministry, as do my friends who are also labeled as hyper-grace preachers. Sin is bad. It is ugly. It brings death to everything it touches. It grieves God. It makes us miserable. It comes with a variety of consequences.

No legitimate grace-preacher that I am aware of minimizes the reality that sin is evil, wrong, bad, unproductive and unfitting for a new creation in Christ. What we DO focus on, however, is the Answer to sin, which is Jesus – and the fact that His grace alone is precisely what delivers us from its penalty (death), its power (enslavement) and eventually even its very presence (when we live in the fullness of His heavenly kingdom one day).

I talk about sin all the time, but not as a means of manipulating, judging or condemning people. I talk about sin so as to help people understand both their daily and eternal need for Jesus as Savior and Lord. We hyper-grace preachers are simply standing with Paul on the promise that it is the grace of God which “teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, and to live soberly, righteously and godly in the present age…” (Titus 2:11-13).

Paul taught that the power of sin is the law (1 Cor. 15:56). If a person wants to ensure that they will remain in slavery to life-dominating sin and addiction, one simple way to do that is to live under a law-based mentality. A grace-saturated life, however, frees us from the grip of sin’s mastery over us. Far from being soft on sin, we take sin very seriously. So seriously that we are pointing people unapologetically to the only Source of rescue from it! That Source is not trying harder to be a good person, culturally-espoused self-help tactics or pop-psychology.

That Source is Jesus Christ and the grace He alone offers.


Objection #3: Hyper-Grace Preachers Don’t Believe in Repentance

Not only do webelieve in repentance, but we seek to understand and teach it thoroughly and accurately. In the New Testament, “to repent” is a translation of the Greek verb “metanoeo” meaning “to change one’s mind or perspective.” Obviously, when we receive Christ, we have repented in the genuine sense of the term – changing our minds about our need of a Savior and receiving Christ.

Before Christ, we lived as self-sufficiently as possible, thinking that God would probably grade on a curve and accept us at least partly on the basis of our own best efforts and self-generated goodness. When we came to understand our spiritual bankruptcy and our desperate need for Christ’s forgiveness and new life, we repented (had a change of perspective) and received Christ by trusting in Him alone to rescue us.

Beyond this initial experience of “getting saved” (as we often call it), repentance is a daily lifestyle in which an ongoing “renewal of the mind” process is taking place within us. As we grow in faith and in our understanding of God through His Word and our union with His Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 6:17), we begin to replace old thinking with new thinking and false thinking with true thinking. This renewal of the mind (Rom. 12:1-3) is an integral part of the transformative process of the Spirit’s work in our lives. This is the essence of a lifestyle of repentance – taking false thoughts captive, making them obedient to (in conformity with) Christ (2 Cor. 10:5).

Paul affirmed in no uncertain terms that God’s kindness (His expressed grace toward us) is what leads to repentance (Rom. 2:4). Far from being anti-repentance, hyper-grace theology affirms repentance and the ongoing renewal of the mind as an integral part of what it means to follow Jesus under His New Covenant.


Objection #4: Hyper-Grace Preachers Are Against Confession of Sin

This is one of the most common misrepresentations of hyper-grace theology. The Biblical term “to confess” simply means “to speak the same thing as” or “to agree with.” We teach that confession is important because we should yield our minds to agreement with God about everything He reveals – including, but not limited to, sin.

What we often also teach (and this is where the rub is with some people) is that confession is not about triggering any transaction between us and God that would issue forth more forgiveness, as though God were dispensing forgiveness in various doses based upon our confessions. Forgiveness of sin is something that was provided objectively ONE time by ONE act of grace through ONE Savior who shed His blood on the cross for us 2000 years ago. As the book of Hebrews repeatedly emphasizes, He is the “once for all” sacrifice for sin.

Confession of sin then, is about humility and walking in agreement with God – not about getting more forgiveness from Him. Some will suggest that God’s forgiveness is dispensed using a “two-tiered” approach. On one level, they say, God has forgiven our sins judicially and objectively through the cross. On the second tier, however, we need to confess our sins in order to receive “relational” or“experiential” forgiveness in order to maintain close fellowship with God.

This two-tiered approach is nowhere taught in the New Testament, and has only been popularized because of two basic levels of rationale. The first is based upon a misinterpretation of two passages in the New Testament, both of which have been clearly explained in books and sermons by a host of solid gospel teachers. These two passages are Matthew 6:12 (where Jesus appears to be commanding His followers to ask for God’s forgiveness) and 1 John 1:9 (which seems to link forgiveness to confession of sin).


The bottom-line is this. We hyper-grace preachers DO value confession of sin. We also practice confession of sin in our own lives. However, we understand confession to be about agreeing with God concerning the foolishness of our sin rather than begging for forgiveness based upon a humanly-invented two-tiered approach to somehow "maintaining close fellowship" with Him.

Our fellowship with God was purchased unconditionally and irreversibly by Jesus at the cross. Once we receive that fellowship by simple faith in Christ, it is our eternal possession regardless of our recent performance or track-record. As I’ve written in my book, The Gospel Uncut:

"The way I now approach confession is to simply agree with God about the foolishness of my sin. I admit to Him that my sin hurts me as well as others and that it fails to bring glory to His Name. Often I am sorrowful over the foolishness of my actions. The Apostle Paul wrote that there is a “godly sorrow that brings repentance” (2 Cor. 10:7). When I know I have sinned, I humbly admit that my sinful behavior is out of step with my new nature and identity in Him, and I ask Him to help me rest in His completed work. Now here comes the best part! After agreeing with God about my sin, I begin thanking Him for the fact that this sinful act was already forgiven at the cross. Understanding these realities has literally transformed my practice of confession, changing the experience from a guilt-ridden begging session into a dynamic, worshipful encounter in which my conscious mind (and behavior) is realigned with the grace and truth of Jesus.

So yes! By all means confess your sin to God! Agree with Him about sin and everything else He has revealed. But don’t think of confession as a means of obtaining something that Jesus Christ died “once for all” to secure for you. Remember that confession is about humility and the ongoing renewal of the mind process – and never about getting something from God that is already yours in abundance through the finished work of Christ. If you are a believer in Christ, you are NEVER out of fellowship with God. Fellowship is an identity issue, meaning that you now share "all things in common" with God as a joint-heir with Christ (Rom. 8:17)! This never has been and never will be based upon your behavioral performance and is not something that you must confess sin in order to have reinstated! Because of Christ, you are always clean and God is always close!


Objection #5: Hyper-Grace Preachers are Against God’s Law

Some take this claim so far as to suggest that we even want to throw out or ignore the Old Testament. Wow! What wild imaginations these accusers have! The truth is that we are by no means antinomian (against the law of God), nor do we disbelieve or avoid teaching the Old Testament. Most of us actually esteem the power and purpose of God’s law so highly that we understand grace to be the only way of escape from its impossibly stringent demands.

Paul shared in Romans 3 and elsewhere that God’s purposes for the law were two-fold: 1) to stop our self-righteous excuses, minimizations and justifications of our sin and 2) to reveal our desperate need of a Savior by grace through faith. The entire thrust of Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount was to bury His very self-righteous audience under the weight of one inescapable reality: “Unless your righteousness surpasses that of the world’s most stringent law-keepers (the Pharisees and teachers of the law) you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matt.5:20).

That Jesus came to “fulfill” the Law (Matt. 5:17) means that He came to keep its demands perfectly because He knew that we couldn’t and wouldn’t. He fulfilled the stringent demands of the Law on our behalf as our Substitute so that His record of perfection could be credited to our spiritual account when we received Him by grace through faith. He did what you and I couldn’t and wouldn’t, and the Sermon on the Mount is a damning indictment of anyone who thinks they can measure up to God’s standards on their own effort.

And have you heard of this “cheap grace” idea? Sometimes the term is ripped off and redefined from Bonhoeffer’s vocabulary to insinuate that the hyper-grace movement has cheapened the grace of God by making it “too easy” for people to attain. After all, we live in a world where there’s no such thing as a free lunch, right? We certainly don't believe or teach that grace is cheap. It cost Jesus His life! But we DO agree with the New Testament that His grace is FREE to those who receive it freely by faith.

The truth of the matter is that hyper-grace teachers are not guilty of promoting cheap grace at all. Rather, our critics are often guilty of promoting cheap Law! Far from being anti-law, WE are the ones who esteem God's Law so highly as to conclude that there is no escape from its condemnation apart from faith in Christ alone! The Law is an all-or-nothing proposition. To stumble in just one aspect of keeping it is the equivalent of breaking all of it (James 2:10). The Law is a ministry of death and condemnation (2 Cor. 3:7-11). The Law is not the bad guy, however. It simply points out who the bad guys are (the world, the flesh and the devil)! The Law is holy and pure and designed to show us what sin is (Rom.7:7).

But living under Law cannot save, change or transform a single heart – only grace can! And this is why we are so adamant about never mixing a law-based mentality with a grace-based mentality toward spiritual life or growth under God’s New Covenant. The New Testament repeatedly affirms that our salvation and sanctification are either completely by law or completely by grace, but cannot be a result of mixing the two.

Conclusion:

With all of that said, the idea of trying to somehow “balance grace” with anything is ludicrous according to both Scripture and plain reason. Grace, by definition, is radically IMBALANCED in our favor! If it were not, it would cease to be grace on that very basis! The term “hyper-grace” is far from insulting! It is in fact the ONLY kind of grace taught, supported and promoted in the Bible.

God understands that His grace is open to the possibility of abuse by those who might misunderstand it. He understands that people may take His grace for granted or even at times misrepresent it as a license to sin. Paul addressed those concerns very clearly, as did Jesus and the other New Testament writers.

However, the fact that grace is open to misinterpretation and the possibility of abuse does not give us license to water it down, explain it away or cheapen its glory by adding a single measure of law into it as an attempt to stay "balanced." There is nothing balanced whatsoever about the grace of God! We rejoice in that! We celebrate that! We proclaim that without apology!

Why I am Hyper-Grace: Answering Five Common Objections

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Can you imagine...Israel in the desert. Their sin was causing them to drop like flies. God said, look on this serpent on the pole and you will not die for the sins you've committed. This is my remedy. Can you imagine them then saying, no, that is relying too heavily on how God has said He will save us from the sin we have committed against Him that made Him angry? If we do what He says, that just will cause us to sin even more. No, no, no - that is NOT going to save anyone. That would make it too simple and would lead to more and more lawlessness. So we must do a lot more than look on this serpent or we are just twisting what God said the remedy was.

 

[Grace777x70]

Can you imagine...Israel in the desert. Their sin was causing them to drop like flies. God said, look on this serpent on the pole and you will not die for the sins you've committed. This is my remedy. Can you imagine them then saying, no, that is relying too heavily on how God has said He will save us from the sin we have committed against Him that made Him angry? If we do what He says, that just will cause us to sin even more. No, no, no - that is NOT going to save anyone. That would make it too simple and would lead to more and more lawlessness. So we must do a lot more than look on this serpent or we are just twisting what God said the remedy was.

Yes....God didn't say .."Watch the snakes...try to figure out what kinds of snakes they are...10 steps for avoiding snakes..etc" He said "look at the bronze snake on a tree." This is a picture of His Son our Lord Jesus.

Religion wants us to be always looking at ourselves ..at our sin,...at our failures..at what "we" do...instead the Lord says to keep our eyes on Jesus.

Peter walking on the water is a prefect picture of the true Christian life ..take our eyes off of Jesus and look at other things - we begin to sink.

 

[LaurenTM]

Good I'm not hyper grace, although I believe in salvation totally by the grace of God., along with repentance and confession of sin.



oops I must be hyper grace,. ALL my sin is covered.



but Jesus bade us confess it to our Father (not our judge) Matt 6.



oops I am hyper grace,



No we are bound by Jesus teaching but we are not under the Law (being judged by the Law).



we are responsible to our Father not our Judge,
.Big difference



lol

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That is YOUR interpretation I don't think that is true of me



verse 24 explains it. Kept by the power of God.

I so understand Valiant

I found myself labelled hyper-grace as well even though I am still not sure what that is!

All I know, is what scripture teaches and what I have learned since being saved at the age of 5

I do not understand the motives of those who insist people say things they do not, in fact say

and they say with what seems like actual hatred at times

anyway, congratulations on your membership...I was labelled also before I knew it, so I just shrugged and thought, well, if that's what you want to call it

no reasonable human being would keep saying that we say keep on sinning, it's fine, after the multitude of responses that prove otherwise

interesting how some deny that and just keep accusing. I'm not their judge, but at least they could admit what is actually said and not keep fabricating things