The Trump is terrible thread...
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One thing that I wish I had remembered to say Is,If Russia were the ones that were responsible for the e-mail hack,wouldn't that be an infringement on our national security since Secretary Clinton Is the secretary for the United States,so then It looks like Donald Is saying,Its okay to hack us and get United States Information as long as you can help me stop Hillary.
If this Is true,and I heard Donald saying this on CNN,then can everyone see now why Donald Is Ignorant,selfish,childish and dangerous?
If this Is true,and I heard Donald saying this on CNN,then can everyone see now why Donald Is Ignorant,selfish,childish and dangerous?
Sounds like the reason they want to build a wall,Is not to stop Mexicans from Mexico from going to the United States but they want to build a wall to stop Guatemalans,Salvadorans and Hondurans that flock to Reynosa In an effort to get to the United States from coming through mexico to get to the United States.
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Ultimatum77
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You've got a point there, it's the one issue I disagree with him on.....but to be elected today one has to cater to the 1% of the population lest you be labeled a bigot, hate crime, non-pc etc....and smeared in the media.
People spout off about standing by principle and then when someone else does they are lambasted and demagogued....especially if it's a Christian principle. I applaud Trump for coming to this womans aid when no one else would.
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Ultimatum77
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Yes it's good he stood up for her right to express herself which CHristians have been silenced a lot over there for social issues with threats and stuff....but Trump supports gay marriage...I cannot support that....i support trump only b/c he is better than the alternative of Clinton. But that does not mean I support all of Trump's beliefs...he's not God....I understand he has to have this stance to not get torched by the media and to win LGBT voters....but still as a CHristian first, I oppose trump on the issue of gay marriage....
Even Pastor James David Manning withdrew his endorsement over this one issue....he still supports Trump over clinton but he makes sure to state that he cannot endorse trump b.c it would endorse gay marriage a view Manning staunchly opposes.
Trump is a better candidate than Hillary that I agree but we should be careful not to "deify" him as some untouchable guy/god....he's not,,, the guy has some viewpoints/background (affairs w/women) that are not good....he's not above criticism....
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Wow I didn't know this ...Trump is a good man to defend a Christians right even when he may disagree with their beliefs ... God bless Donald Trump
Of course he is not above criticism. We should just save it for when there is actually something worth criticizing him for. As for gay marriage, I'd sooner let two consenting adults make their own choice. Heterosexual marriage isn't any better insofar as the divorce rate is sky hi....even among so called Christians. We are hypocrites on the issue of marriage any way you slice it and should get our own houses in order first. The way I see it, that issue among others is decided in the Supreme Court and trump has stated that he will appoint conservative minded judges.
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Am I reading the last few messages correctly?
Kim Davis is a hero for having a public job and was unwilling to do the duties she's required to do in her job?
If I was hired to do work at the front desk of a doctor's office and he wanted to suddenly include abortion in his practice, I wouldn't say, "No, I won't do the paper work for anyone wanting to get an abortion here because I'm against abortion and it goes against my religion. However, I still want to keep and get paid for my job."
I would instead say, "It was a pleasure working for you doctor, but your change of "service" is not consistent with my spiritual views of the sanctity of life. I quit."
Kim Davis is a hero for having a public job and was unwilling to do the duties she's required to do in her job?
If I was hired to do work at the front desk of a doctor's office and he wanted to suddenly include abortion in his practice, I wouldn't say, "No, I won't do the paper work for anyone wanting to get an abortion here because I'm against abortion and it goes against my religion. However, I still want to keep and get paid for my job."
I would instead say, "It was a pleasure working for you doctor, but your change of "service" is not consistent with my spiritual views of the sanctity of life. I quit."
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Voldemort
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As for saying "we are all hypocrites when it comes to marriage [due to the high divorce rate]" this is such a cop-out and a desperate attempt to justify Trumps hypocritical stance on homosexuality and marriage.
It reveals his true feelings towards gay marriage. I fault Trump more for being two-faced on this issue than I do for him actually supporting homosexuality. If he was honest and just owned that he is for gay marriage instead of pretending like he is against it, I could easily agree to disagree with his belief. But, to pretend like you're against it when your actions speak louder and contradict your words... this is utterly dishonest.
It reveals his true feelings towards gay marriage. I fault Trump more for being two-faced on this issue than I do for him actually supporting homosexuality. If he was honest and just owned that he is for gay marriage instead of pretending like he is against it, I could easily agree to disagree with his belief. But, to pretend like you're against it when your actions speak louder and contradict your words... this is utterly dishonest.
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jennymae
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This is sort of what this really is about. The gov't should not be interfering with how people are living their lives. This is the land of freedom, and a candidate trying to tell us how we should be living our lives can just take their candidacy and shove it. I apologize for using fault language.
We may have freedom but it comes with responsibilities, otherwise it is just anarchy and chaos.
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Vigil
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Both. If you believe one party is somehow "the good guy" I feel that's a naive assessment stemming from the fact they've done such a good job pretending to fight. Both parties have sold out to special interests and its been this way since before I was born.
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Mitspa
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Well "we the people" decide what kind of society we want and the moral standards that best represent our values ...if California wants to let two perverts marry ..then thats up to them. The people should decide in the States ..not some left-wing loon of a so-called judge. I think Trump has taken the states right side of the issue, while making clear his personal view is not biblical. What he did promise was to appoint judges that would not try to impose liberal insanity on the states and follow the constitutional standards to decide these matters. Trump stood up for the lady in Ky who did not want to defile her own conscience.
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Mitspa
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Well we have hashed this issue out on here before ...but the people elected her and the people of Ky. voted 80% against gay marriage ... the ruling of that insane liberal court was unconstitutional and the lady is clearly a hero
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jennymae
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I don't give a (insert word of choice) what liberals, left wing/right wing loons be doing in their homes. What I do care a lot about is to prevent people from trying to erase our freedom. If one state allow/ban gay marriage, then it is that states prerogative.
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