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I'm going to try to take a backseat for a bit. I don't want the discussion to become an attack on my belief, and I don't want to be on the defensive. I want to learn how others regard this information and how we will gain victory over the beast. Here is the scenario once again... If the beast of Revelation 13 is revealed to have the name the Lord Jesus Christ, how do we gain victory over him? How does that affect salvation? If it is the one name whereby we must be saved and is also the name of the beast, then how do we get our names written in the right book? Please don't attack me or ask for me to answer the question, because I don't have all the answers.
:haha: giving the secret to defeat what the beast
those false prophets and false teachers of satan devil beast
that we must find a way to change so that they could also have a salvation to what is good and cannot lie
and to the only begotten son of god
along with all that is holy
~;> and
if anyone could find away to counter
the information of all the good people gathered in order to find a
good way for those people to learn what is true
then be not afraid to learn the truth for the truth shall set us free
those false prophets and false teachers of satan devil beast
that we must find a way to change so that they could also have a salvation to what is good and cannot lie
and to the only begotten son of god
along with all that is holy
~;> and
if anyone could find away to counter
the information of all the good people gathered in order to find a
good way for those people to learn what is true
then be not afraid to learn the truth for the truth shall set us free
:hrmm: humans has no chance of defeating what is pure evil because a spirit could only be defeated by a spirit
and flesh could be defeated by evil spirit if those flesh loose their salvation
so its better to know the scriptures
for now
until the time comes
as it is written
:read:
Marcos: 14. 38. Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
. ... so as it is written
:read:
Mateo: 13. 38. The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39. The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42. And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
and flesh could be defeated by evil spirit if those flesh loose their salvation
so its better to know the scriptures
for now
until the time comes
as it is written
:read:
Marcos: 14. 38. Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
. ... so as it is written
:read:
Mateo: 13. 38. The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39. The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42. And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Yes he has not assigned a spiritual meaning to that number (667) .Just the 666 . The number of unconverted man (no faith) simply an outward Jew in respect to the flesh. God hides his face from them in the same of a un-believing Gentile. He is no respecter of persons not one,none.
Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
I prayed to our Father for wisdom and understanding, then read Revelations. Then my mind said, "Oh no." Then I counted the number of times the name "Jesus Christ" appeared in the four gospels. In later searching I found on blueletterbible that
Where did you get the idea that counting words is how we find the spiritual understanding of the parable that is hid from those who know not Christ?
Does God have a meaning attached to the word six? What about the word three?
Does God have a meaning attached to the word six? What about the word three?
:hrmm: thats the mysteries of the ancients
did anyone notice this verses
as it is written
:read:
Exodo: 23. 5. If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him.
6. Thou shalt not wrest the judgment of thy poor in his cause.
7. Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.
8. And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.
did anyone notice this verses
as it is written
:read:
Exodo: 23. 5. If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him.
6. Thou shalt not wrest the judgment of thy poor in his cause.
7. Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.
8. And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.
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Consider another part of Revelation- The Synagogue(s) of Satan. See any connection to so many false claims of Jesus? Whence cometh the false claims? The churches - both of the mother churches and the harlot daughters - Pharisees, Nicolaitanes, Mormons, Jehovahs, Church of Christ, TV preachers, get rich preachers, apostasy of all kinds etc, etc. The devil masquerading as an Angel of Light.
He replied:
"Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them."
(Luke 21:8)
"Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them."
(Luke 21:8)
if you are worried that you will be deceived by someone claiming to be Him, He also gives this encouragement:
Then he said to his disciples,
“The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. People will tell you, ‘There he is!’ or ‘Here he is!’ Do not go running off after them. For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other."
(Luke 17:22-24)
“The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. People will tell you, ‘There he is!’ or ‘Here he is!’ Do not go running off after them. For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other."
(Luke 17:22-24)
His coming is not going to be something that anyone will be able to 'miss' or wonder whether it is really Him. every eye will see, and every knee will bow. so don't go looking when anyone claims to be Him or that He is at some place or that some other one has appeared who is Him.
and here is more encouragement -- you say, "it is wrong to ignore His voice" - amen - and He says,
When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.
(John 10:4-5)
(John 10:4-5)
He says that His sheep know His voice, and won't follow a stranger's.
isn't that good news!!!
that some will rise up and claim to be god or to speak for god or even to claim to be the Christ?
that is for the separation of the goats from the sheep, to deceive the world and fully justify their condemnation, to their blatant shame when the true Holy One returns.
it's not God Himself trying to deceive you, and not something to be afraid of.
look, even now, people all around you are thinking that a man in America will 'save the nation' if only they can elect him to the white house, and it's a claim he boasts of himself. a false savior. how easy is it not to put your faith in him? the elect aren't deceived. and even now, how many false christs are there in many false religions, and how many false prophets are there all across the country? is it hard to discern whether they are the Son of God or not?
so trust the One True Living God, and don't worry. believe Him, and believe that these things must come, to fulfill all that must come.
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To repeat; false religions, starting with the RCC and controlling the harlot daughter churches become the synagogues of satan. VICARIUS FILII DEI = 666 ; it is a claim over the people and a claim to be Christ on earth or little God's. It is similar in meaning to Nicolaitanes and to lordship salvation preachers.
Having revealed them (more hints in earlier posts) the ' secret ' to overcoming them is to leave the churches taking their power and revealing them to the world by living and teaching truth. Martin Luther perhaps was an example that triggered a reformation that must continue til believers are Called Out to become the true church - the Ekklesia, not churchians ...
Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees ...
Unless your righteousness exceeds these (scribes and Pharisees) you will not enter the kingdom ...
Scribe = media, publishers, new bible translators ...
Pharisee = preachers, secular law (senators, congress, governors, mayors, school boards, lawyers, judges, district attorneys, cops and perhaps teachers), etc.
Jesus confronted them, taught and rebuked them, warned and reprimanded them. At the same time he was teaching the people, calling to repent - and for solidarity and unity of the 12 tribes. He called out the end of the temple as building worship and declared a new testament Ekklesia.
I can go on and deeper but it has to start somewhere ...
Having revealed them (more hints in earlier posts) the ' secret ' to overcoming them is to leave the churches taking their power and revealing them to the world by living and teaching truth. Martin Luther perhaps was an example that triggered a reformation that must continue til believers are Called Out to become the true church - the Ekklesia, not churchians ...
Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees ...
Unless your righteousness exceeds these (scribes and Pharisees) you will not enter the kingdom ...
Scribe = media, publishers, new bible translators ...
Pharisee = preachers, secular law (senators, congress, governors, mayors, school boards, lawyers, judges, district attorneys, cops and perhaps teachers), etc.
Jesus confronted them, taught and rebuked them, warned and reprimanded them. At the same time he was teaching the people, calling to repent - and for solidarity and unity of the 12 tribes. He called out the end of the temple as building worship and declared a new testament Ekklesia.
I can go on and deeper but it has to start somewhere ...
as it is written:read:
Mangangaral: 8. 5. Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment. 6. Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him.
7. For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be?
8. There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.
:ty:
godbless us all always
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We do not gain victory over the beast Jesus himself will defeat him at his second coming. Those that are left under the rule of the beast are mostly martyred by refusing the mark.
The belief of many are before the great tribulation there is a rapture to take place in which Jesus calls up his bride before the start of the great tribulation. Not all share that viewpoint and is not the subject of the o.p.
The belief of many are before the great tribulation there is a rapture to take place in which Jesus calls up his bride before the start of the great tribulation. Not all share that viewpoint and is not the subject of the o.p.
I think you are making this much more difficult and cryptic than it has to be.
Yes the anti christ will call himself,and be referred by most as messiah(christ). Maybe he would call himself jesus, but who cares? Christians cannot mistake him for the true Jesus. Don't you know that? Besides all that there will be absolutely NO mistaking when the True Lord returns.
Peace love and Grace to you.
Yes the anti christ will call himself,and be referred by most as messiah(christ). Maybe he would call himself jesus, but who cares? Christians cannot mistake him for the true Jesus. Don't you know that? Besides all that there will be absolutely NO mistaking when the True Lord returns.
Peace love and Grace to you.