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I was by no means trying to say that I agrees that overpopulation was a real thing. Yikes! I didn't mean that at all. But I was just pointing out that it is something that communists and socialists consider big problems, and thus their affection for Planned Parenthood.
This is all I want out of younger generations. The same thing I wanted from mine. "Question Authority."

In God we trust, but all others should be scrutinized first.
 
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I'm more concerned. In ten years, I'll be 70, which is that birthday where I can't even keep denying I'm old. lol
Naw, those cute lil' teddy bears keep you young :)
 
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This is all I want out of younger generations. The same thing I wanted from mine. "Question Authority."

In God we trust, but all others should be scrutinized first.
And make darn sure it is God before you trust...my biggest pet peeve lately is people who claim to have had a revelation from God that doesn't even line up with Scripture. Ok sorry to derail, moving on! :p
 
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Nah, I'm going to run the campaign for a successful Presidential candidate. Then get a cushy job at the next generation's Fox News where I am paid untold sums to give a half-baked opinion for 5 minutes a day, write books, and chase those really good looking infobabes.

Plan B is dominating the state politics of a region and running Mitspa for a position in Nashville. Saving money year after year so I can call myself a millionaire. Marry someone competent enough to help manage my affairs while I wine and dine politicians.

Plan C is martyrdom at the hands of a totalitarian madman or political assassin.

Plan D is to retire to a cabin in the Smokies and weather the storm.

It's probably going to be some combination of the four. Hopefully it leans heavily on numero uno.
One of my cousins was Trent Lott's lawyer. He was on the floor in Congress when Clinton was impeached. And, back when he was done school, he clerked for Rehnquist.

His wife was a lawyer too, until she became a judge. And they had four girls. Each daughter spent some of their time after school helping out with a political campaign at the headquarters in D.C. They were all paid positions too. (One out of four went on to teach, while the other three became lawyers.)

Easiest way to get in politics -- graduate at a major law school as Magna cum Laude or Summa cum Laude.

Sadly, that much effort did not make its way into my side of the family.
 
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Some of them hate the system they were/are in. Realized it was more political and less honor bound. So they take different paths in life.
I keep thinking I don't have my fingerprints in the system, but can't think of any cool thing to do with that info. (Wait! I can leave fingerprints all over the presidential limo windows and might get away with it!)
 
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And make darn sure it is God before you trust...my biggest pet peeve lately is people who claim to have had a revelation from God that doesn't even line up with Scripture. Ok sorry to derail, moving on! :p
Friends and family like to tell me they're "spiritual." They really don't like me asking, "What does that even mean?"
 
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Friends and family like to tell me they're "spiritual." They really don't like me asking, "What does that even mean?"
My mum's response to all such things is "what chapter what verse?" No one really likes that question...
 
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Yes, vastly different...to get a gun here involves bribery and also showing that you need one for self-defense/threat purposes to your life. 99% of the populous are unarmed, except for the police and military and a few people who obtain guns illegally on the borders.

If I could get one legally I would but it's just too cost prohibitive and lengthy with the paperwork and bribes you have to give to officials to process your paperwork.

I just wanted to know what the gun laws are over there, because it's an area I would like to get more informed in. I know you have the right to kill an intruder but you have to make sure they are inside your house before you shoot or something like that is what I've read.....if after you shot them you have to drag their body into the house to show them as an intruder? IDK but read some interesting things on the net so it piqued my curiosity.
 

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Yes, vastly different...to get a gun here involves bribery and also showing that you need one for self-defense/threat purposes to your life. 99% of the populous are unarmed, except for the police and military and a few people who obtain guns illegally on the borders.

If I could get one legally I would but it's just too cost prohibitive and lengthy with the paperwork and bribes you have to give to officials to process your paperwork.

I just wanted to know what the gun laws are over there, because it's an area I would like to get more informed in. I know you have the right to kill an intruder but you have to make sure they are inside your house before you shoot or something like that is what I've read.....if after you shot them you have to drag their body into the house to show them as an intruder? IDK but read some interesting things on the net so it piqued my curiosity.
Hey, well you dont exactly "have the right to shoot an intruder". You cant "drag someone back inside". It is way more complicated than that. You have a right yo defend your home but the law varies from state to state and they are not really cut and dry laws. You can actually be convicted of 1st degree murder if certain things arent "proved" like immediate life threatening and no way of escape.
 
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Yes, vastly different...to get a gun here involves bribery and also showing that you need one for self-defense/threat purposes to your life. 99% of the populous are unarmed, except for the police and military and a few people who obtain guns illegally on the borders.

If I could get one legally I would but it's just too cost prohibitive and lengthy with the paperwork and bribes you have to give to officials to process your paperwork.

I just wanted to know what the gun laws are over there, because it's an area I would like to get more informed in. I know you have the right to kill an intruder but you have to make sure they are inside your house before you shoot or something like that is what I've read.....if after you shot them you have to drag their body into the house to show them as an intruder? IDK but read some interesting things on the net so it piqued my curiosity.
You have the right to self-defense ...no matter where you are ..but you better be ready to make your case and if politics get involved ..say you shoot some street thug of some minority group? You could find yourself being pursued by some political hack.
 

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Yes, vastly different...to get a gun here involves bribery and also showing that you need one for self-defense/threat purposes to your life. 99% of the populous are unarmed, except for the police and military and a few people who obtain guns illegally on the borders.

If I could get one legally I would but it's just too cost prohibitive and lengthy with the paperwork and bribes you have to give to officials to process your paperwork.

I just wanted to know what the gun laws are over there, because it's an area I would like to get more informed in. I know you have the right to kill an intruder but you have to make sure they are inside your house before you shoot or something like that is what I've read.....if after you shot them you have to drag their body into the house to show them as an intruder? IDK but read some interesting things on the net so it piqued my curiosity.
In most states, the process for buying a gun is to fill out a form with questions about your "history"... have you ever been arrested, have you ever renounced your citizenship, that type of thing. The seller then contacts, by phone, the NICS system, which is the instant background check system. They run your SS# through the system, and if nothing comes up negative, they give the seller an approval number, which allows them to sell you the firearm.
If any "red flags" appear, then the purchase is delayed for 3 days, supposedly allowing the NICS system to investigate you further. If the seller doesn't hear anything back from NICS within 3 days, you are allowed to purchase the firearm.

There are several things that can disqualify you from firearms purchases... being a convicted felon, being arrested for domestic violence, being mentally unstable (who would admit to that?), being a "fugitive from justice"....

That is the FEDERAL requirement, in a nutshell. That is required ANYWHERE in the US. There are also states that have their own restrictions above and beyond the Federal ones. California is perhaps the most restrictive state, although I'm not positive of that. In Cali, you cannot purchase a firearm that holds more than 10 rounds of ammo. There is a list of firearms that are ok for sale there, and if a firearm is not on that list.... you can't buy it there.

Some cities have even more stringent laws... Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, New York.... in places like that, it is virtually impossible to buy a handgun, or one of those evil "assault rifles"
Strangely enough, those are the cities with the highest rates of gun violence and crime. Go figure...:rolleyes:

Fully automatic firearms, silencers, sawed off shotguns or rifles, are NOT legal to own, unless you fill out the proper paperwork, pay a registration fee (approximately $250 per item) and pass a very stringent FBI background investigation. I believe you also have to have the approval of the main law enforcement official where you live... chief of police, or sheriff.

At this point in time, it is still legal for an individual to sell his/her firearm to another individual without going through a background check. This is intended to make it ok to sell your buddy your deer rifle, if you want to, without going through the governmental hoops.
There are people that only buy from individuals, so they can own an "unregistered" firearm. This is somewhat un-necessary, because the Federal government is not legally allowed to keep a "gun registry" of individual citizens. I'm not saying they don't do it, but it's unconstitutional.
When a firearm is purchased, it is on record (somewhere?) by serial number as being purchased by whoever purchased it first. So, to aid in criminal investigations, the database can be searched by serial number to find the "history" of that firearm. I don't believe the government can do a search on me, specifically, to see how many firearms I own. I could be wrong about that.... and probably am.

Anyway, I hope that is at least SOME information about how things go up here.... :)
 

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I've always been amused at people that try venison, then say they didn't like it because it didn't taste anything like beef....

I say..."news flash..... it's NOT beef. You don't expect a pig to taste like beef, do you? You aren't eating a cow"..

Harvested deer should be field dressed and skinned immediately after taking them. Cooling down the carcass is essential to having good meat. Get it down to at least 50 degrees, preferably lower as soon as humanly possible.

Trim all fat, sinew, and silverskin off the meat. Boning it out is the best way to do it. NEVER saw steaks out of it... the bone meal that is produced will kill the flavor.... Cook it to no more than medium-medium rare. The flavor will amaze you.

Elk is even better than deer, and I've heard that if you ever eat moose, you'll never eat beef again. All three are in the "venison" family.

Wild pig is good, too, as long as you take young ones.... maybe up to 150 lbs or so. The meat is somehow sweeter than domestic hogs, and leaner, as well. Pretty tasty... and venison/wild hog sausage is marvelous....

I even though aoudad was pretty tasty, cooked "swiss" style...

Never had squirrel, though. I've heard it makes a good stew.
Another hing that helps is not letting any of the fur touch the meat. At the deer building, most of the stuff we got in was fresh, without anything done with it. We skinned it and gutted it, then hung it up an one-off those giant walk-in coolers for a week so that it was almost completely bled out by the time we started working on any more. That seemed to do the trick. Every now and then we got someone who had already skinned, dressed, and cut it up themselves, but they usually didn't do a very good job of it. And really, I don't know why they insisted on doing that part themselves when it only cost ten more dollars for us do do all that.
 
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Yes, vastly different...to get a gun here involves bribery and also showing that you need one for self-defense/threat purposes to your life. 99% of the populous are unarmed, except for the police and military and a few people who obtain guns illegally on the borders.

If I could get one legally I would but it's just too cost prohibitive and lengthy with the paperwork and bribes you have to give to officials to process your paperwork.

I just wanted to know what the gun laws are over there, because it's an area I would like to get more informed in. I know you have the right to kill an intruder but you have to make sure they are inside your house before you shoot or something like that is what I've read.....if after you shot them you have to drag their body into the house to show them as an intruder? IDK but read some interesting things on the net so it piqued my curiosity.
If they're outside, they aren't intruding. Most the time the neighbors would hear the gunshot and go out too soon to pull a body into a house.

Half of the guns I've seen or heard were illegal. I used to work across the street from the heroin dealers, who had gunfights every other week. The good news was they couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. The bad news was I worked in a factory and the bullets often landed in the second floor office ceiling.

We may be a nation of armed citizens, (I don't own a gun and don't want one), but half of the armed are criminals. That's the problem. Our politicians seem to think gun-control stops people from buying guns. Only people who aren't criminals to begin with.
 
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I'm just going to leave this here. This is the stock for my latest project.

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Looks interesting! Of course anything with a trigger looks interesting to me :p What does it go to?
There will eventually be a Ruger 10/22 receiver, trigger, and barrel in that stock. It's a bullpup conversion stock for the Ruger 10/22 rifle. Pricey item, but I like the looks of it and the ergonomics of the stock are amazing. Will make for a very enjoyable varmint eradicator.
 

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There will eventually be a Ruger 10/22 receiver, trigger, and barrel in that stock. It's a bullpup conversion stock for the Ruger 10/22 rifle. Pricey item, but I like the looks of it and the ergonomics of the stock are amazing. Will make for a very enjoyable varmint eradicator.
Sounds like an expensive hobby. But I can't say that I in any way disprove! And it looks plenty of fun. You should come over and pick off some of my varmint. The nasty little things are absolutely vicious this time of year when the pear trees are producing.
 

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Bullpups are cool.... how long of a barrel will it have?

That seems to be the only disadvantage of a bullpup, the muzzle is MUCH closer to the end of your nose, and the muzzle blast is somewhat more, um... intense.

Of course, with a .22 rimfire it won't be as big an issue...
 
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I'm just going to leave this here. This is the stock for my latest project.

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Little bit of humor...when I seen it was on top of the washing machine ...my first thought was ...he is hiding in in the laundry room, from his wife ..the last place she would look...haha no offense intended
 

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Another hing that helps is not letting any of the fur touch the meat. At the deer building, most of the stuff we got in was fresh, without anything done with it. We skinned it and gutted it, then hung it up an one-off those giant walk-in coolers for a week so that it was almost completely bled out by the time we started working on any more. That seemed to do the trick. Every now and then we got someone who had already skinned, dressed, and cut it up themselves, but they usually didn't do a very good job of it. And really, I don't know why they insisted on doing that part themselves when it only cost ten more dollars for us do do all that.
Yes, you are absolutely correct... hair on the meat will taint it beyond use. Back when I used to take my deer to a processor, I would usually skin it myself so that it could cool down quicker... deer season in Texas is still usually in the 80's, and it's imperative to cool it down asap.
The last few times I've taken a deer, I just bone it out and wrap it myself. Makes for better venison. Texas whitetails are so small, it is almost not worth it to pay a processor.