The Trump is terrible thread...

[hornetguy]

It's not the "mean" part... lol It's the, "Trump's only sin is he isn't PC", "a vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Hillary", "I'm going to cyber troll you because you disagree with me", "Trump is a strong Christian so Obama has been auditing him for 13+ years in a row... even if the math doesn't fit as Obama has only been president for less than 8 years and Trump identified as a Democrat as late as 2004", etc...

For me, it's the argument of not voting for the lesser of two evils. However, his supporters are being counter productive. They are able to clearly see Hillary's corruption but for some reason, blinded by Trump's. It's a pretty big turn off.

So you would withdraw your support for trump because of the behavior of his supporters? Huh? That makes no sense.

 

[jsr1221]

So you would withdraw your support for trump because of the behavior of his supporters? Huh? That makes no sense.

It's no different than advertising. If you're an advertiser and you start acting like a jerk or a witch while pitching the product, why would I buy and support it?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Not only that but it's foolish to wait around for someone to convince you of something. Don't people have a brain for which to think things thru for themselves? I'd say some do not.

I see what you mean,sometimes a person believes what someone says so strongly that they become blinded with devotion without needing any proof

until they come face to face with truth that can be seen by the persons actions,

but by that time,Donald Trump has played you and Its too late,

but If you think about others,you should want to know before Its to late and thats just common sense.

 

[Sirk]

I see what you mean,sometimes a person believes what someone says so strongly that they become blinded with devotion without needing any proof

until they come face to face with truth that can be seen by the persons actions,

but by that time,Donald Trump has played you and Its too late,

but If you think about others,you should want to know before Its to late and thats just common sense.

the reality is that the left wing in this country has said and advanced the most vile things about people like me. They spread lies and misinformation. That we are racists and we hate old people and that we want to take away choice, that we hate and wanna kill gay people and on and on and on. No one has stood up for us and pushed back against this rules for radicals push that the left has engaged in. Bush didn't and none of the leadership in congress save for a few until trump. That is why I support trump, because he is the only one with the courage to stand up to the tyranny of the left wing and their media mouthpiece. And that is why I support him. If you wanna hold out for a coward like Romney suit yourself.

the republicans have been trying to fight this fire burning down our country with a squirt gun for far too long.

 

[Sirk]

It's no different than advertising. If you're an advertiser and you start acting like a jerk or a witch while pitching the product, why would I buy and support it?

We're just tired of being abused by leftists.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

the reality is that the left wing in this country has said and advanced the most vile things about people like me. They spread lies and misinformation. That we are racists and we hate old people and that we want to take away choice, that we hate and wanna kill gay people and on and on and on. No one has stood up for us and pushed back against this rules for radicals push that the left has engaged in. Bush didn't and none of the leadership in congress save for a few until trump. That is why I support trump, because he is the only one with the courage to stand up to the tyranny of the left wing and their media mouthpiece. And that is why I support him. If you wanna hold out for a coward like Romney suit yourself.

the republicans have been trying to fight this fire burning down our country with a squirt gun for far too long.

Some of those things that the left is saying about Trump IS true,and when It comes to True Trump supporters defending the Indefensible,If the shoe fits,and the person Is wearing that shoe,then why would they say people are misinterpreting them and they are wearing that shoe.

What I'm trying to say Is I think you are In that group.

 

[Sirk]

Some of those things that the left is saying about Trump IS true,and when It comes to True Trump supporters defending the Indefensible,If the shoe fits,and the person Is wearing that shoe,then why would they say people are misinterpreting them and they are wearing that shoe.

What I'm trying to say Is I think you are In that group.

like what? Tell me what is true about trump. For that matter, tell me what is true about me.

 

[Sirk]

I'm guessing you can only regurgitate what you heard Barbara Streisand or cnn say.

 

[hornetguy]

It's no different than advertising. If you're an advertiser and you start acting like a jerk or a witch while pitching the product, why would I buy and support it?

Because I will be buying the product because I like and want the product, not because George Foreman is "fun to watch".

I will buy or not buy the product because of the product itself, not what some spokesperson says or does.

Supporters of a political candidate are important only in the sense of what belief systems they hold, NOT their behavior. If that was the case, NOBODY should have voted for Jimmy Carter, because of his brother Billy.

 

[hornetguy]

until they come face to face with truth that can be seen by the persons actions,

but by that time, Hillary Clinton has played you and Its too late,

but If you think about others,you should want to know before Its to late and thats just common sense.


edited your statement for accuracy...

This is so much more appropriate when looking at Hillary. Talk about blind devotion. The same kind of devotion Obama had among his supporters.

 

[hornetguy]

Some of those things that the left is saying about Trump IS true,and when It comes to True Trump supporters defending the Indefensible,If the shoe fits,and the person Is wearing that shoe,then why would they say people are misinterpreting them and they are wearing that shoe.

What I'm trying to say Is I think you are In that group.

So what is it that the left is saying that is "true" about Trump that would cause you to not vote for him?

The same thing (in spades) could be said about Hillary, except the press is burying or ignoring it. There are HUNDREDS of allegations against her, spanning the past 16-20 YEARS, MANY of them proven to be true beyond a doubt, which her supporters simply brush aside as if they are unimportant.

Which would make a better president, a buffoon that has the best interest of the country at heart, or a scheming, lying, treasonous career politician, in bed with China?

Seems pretty simple to me.

 

[Sirk]

So what is it that the left is saying that is "true" about Trump that would cause you to not vote for him?

The same thing (in spades) could be said about Hillary, except the press is burying or ignoring it. There are HUNDREDS of allegations against her, spanning the past 16-20 YEARS, MANY of them proven to be true beyond a doubt, which her supporters simply brush aside as if they are unimportant.

Which would make a better president, a buffoon that has the best interest of the country at heart, or a scheming, lying, treasonous career politician, in bed with China?

Seems pretty simple to me.

It's so obvious to someone who hasn't been brainwashed by the media machine or "higher" education.

 

[Depleted]

I know your struggle. I was all for voting Trump, but people are making an excellent case for not voting for the lesser of two evils. Not to mention, some of the Trump supporters are actually doing a disservice to the Trump campaign by turning me off to the idea of getting behind him.

Huh? You're German in Germany! You don't get a vote in American politics, or am I missing something?

 

[Sirk]

Huh? You're German in Germany! You don't get a vote in American politics, or am I missing something?

ya....lots of questions about this one.

 

[jennymae]

It's so obvious to someone who hasn't been brainwashed by the media machine or "higher" education.

I'm concerned when higher education is viewed as something bad. Education is one of the major keys in order to make a society prosperous.

 

[Depleted]

To equate Trump, whos only sin is he speaks without a PC filter to the absolute corrupt and lying Hillary is just mindless and beyond real logic ... Who proved Trump is as bad as Hillary in your mind? And please take the time to explain your position ..if you can? I have not seen one charge against Trump that has stood even a basic test of truth and reason.

Seriously, dude? He can't think of a good reason not to use a nuclear missile? He has to ask multiple times? That's terrifying! And I AM even more conservative than G.W. ever was.

If that's his truth... well, gee whiz! I don't want that kind of truth!!!

 

[Sirk]

I'm concerned when higher education is viewed as something bad. Education is one of the major keys in order to make a society prosperous.

It's also the most pervasive ways to make a society embrace an evil ideology. And it is happening right before your very eyes.

 

[jennymae]

It's also the most pervasive ways to make a society embrace an evil ideology. And it is happening right before your very eyes.

I respect your opinion, but we will have to disagree on this one.

 

[Ultimatum77]

Modern education does not make a person critically think....it just makes them a mindless zombie who needs to do their part to keep the system running.....a little grunt that does what the master/unseen hand tells them to do...that is not true intellectual freedom but mind-controlled slavery....even though I partook in higher education, I learned to think for myself not b/c of it but despite it.....to think outside the box outside of what is told as truth....

Higher education is worthless if you don't think for yourself....

(And no this has nothing to do with voting for or not for Trump) just my opinion on higher ed

 

[seed_time_harvest]

So what is it that the left is saying that is "true" about Trump that would cause you to not vote for him?

The same thing (in spades) could be said about Hillary, except the press is burying or ignoring it. There are HUNDREDS of allegations against her, spanning the past 16-20 YEARS, MANY of them proven to be true beyond a doubt, which her supporters simply brush aside as if they are unimportant.

Which would make a better president, a buffoon that has the best interest of the country at heart, or a scheming, lying, treasonous career politician, in bed with China?

Seems pretty simple to me.

I don't plan to vote for Hillary Clinton but I see what you mean,I guess I should have said,the things Donald Is saying hasn't been proven false to some as of yet.

But why wait until he proves he was wrong when I hear his words from his own mouth saying "believe me"

BTW I think Trump has his own Interests at heart.IMO