Trump: Out of Context

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resurrection33

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KimPetras said:
I actually agree with this, but having diarrhea of the mouth doesn't really help matters. I think a lot of it is in context, it's just Trump speaks emotionally and not pragmatically... it's why he's so popular with some folks.... it's why he can shoot someone in daylight and people would still follow him (unless that quote was taken out of context too??).
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He was just pointing out that his controversial comments were not hurting him.
 
resurrection33

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JesusLives said:
You mean like running for President - He is a much better entertainer as in You're Fired....that is more the context he belongs in.
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He wasn't my first choice to be president, but I think a Clinton presidency would be terrible for this country and world.
 
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resurrection33 said:
He was just pointing out that his controversial comments were not hurting him.
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Were not, as in past tense exclusively? How about his comments not only reflect the present but future comments as well?

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," - Donald Trump

My opinion that his future controversial actions will not cause any of his supporters to defect is evident by looking at the sentence structure of his quote. "I could ... shoot... and I wouldn't lose voters". Though, I'm sure he also meant present time as well as whatever he does in the future. Nevertheless, do agree his quote is true for the majority of his supporters?
 
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resurrection33 said:
John McCain ridiculed Trump's supporters early in the campaign, so Trump said McCain is no hero. The press loves to remind us that Trump said McCain is no hero, while forgetting to remind us that McCain ridiculed Trump's supporters.
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But... he did essentially say he was no hero, right? That was the intent?
 
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resurrection33 said:
John McCain ridiculed Trump's supporters early in the campaign, so Trump said McCain is no hero. The press loves to remind us that Trump said McCain is no hero, while forgetting to remind us that McCain ridiculed Trump's supporters.
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You can disagree with someone without having to discredit John McCain's service to the US.

As if Donald is some expert on what a "war hero" even is. He's a twitter warrior who has a louder bark than he has bite. I don't even like McCain, but I can't help but have appreciation for his service. Thankfully, John McCain didn't have any bone spurs... or he might not of had the chance to be an American hero.
 
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KimPetras said:
You can disagree with someone without having to discredit John McCain's service to the US.

As if Donald is some expert on what a "war hero" even is. He's a twitter warrior who has a louder bark than he has bite. I don't even like McCain, but I can't help but have appreciation for his service. Thankfully, John McCain didn't have any bone spurs... or he might not of had the chance to be an American hero.
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He's not dead yet. Maybe he still has a chance to be a hero.....like saving our country from the evil of Islam and globalism. That btw John McCain has helped or at a minimum done nothing to combat.
 
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He's not dead yet. Maybe he still has a chance to be a hero.....like saving our country from the evil of Islam and globalism
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This is true. When/if he does this and proves most of the world wrong, I will probably never be happier to have been wrong. I don't wish for failure regardless of who wins. I pray for the best.
 
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KimPetras said:
Were not, as in past tense exclusively? How about his comments not only reflect the present but future comments as well?

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," - Donald Trump

My opinion that his future controversial actions will not cause any of his supporters to defect is evident by looking at the sentence structure of his quote. "I could ... shoot... and I wouldn't lose voters". Though, I'm sure he also meant present time as well as whatever he does in the future. Nevertheless, do agree his quote is true for the majority of his supporters?
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I equate it to a husband saying something to his wife. " I could go sleep with someone else, and you still wouldn't leave me." He's insulting his wife's self-esteem. Trump said "I can go shoot someone, and not lose voters". Both are implying the people that are counting on these two (wife for husband's love and protective care/support, the people's trust and support in a presidential candidate) and both could do something morally (husband cheating) or legally (Trump shooting someone) wrong without losing said support. The husband insults the wife's self-worth. Trump insults the intelligence of his supporters. I don't see any difference in the two.
 
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KimPetras said:
You can disagree with someone without having to discredit John McCain's service to the US.

As if Donald is some expert on what a "war hero" even is. He's a twitter warrior who has a louder bark than he has bite. I don't even like McCain, but I can't help but have appreciation for his service. Thankfully, John McCain didn't have any bone spurs... or he might not of had the chance to be an American hero.
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Do you doubt that both were, and are, exactly where God orchestrated?
 
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KimPetras said:
You can disagree with someone without having to discredit John McCain's service to the US.

As if Donald is some expert on what a "war hero" even is. He's a twitter warrior who has a louder bark than he has bite. I don't even like McCain, but I can't help but have appreciation for his service. Thankfully, John McCain didn't have any bone spurs... or he might not of had the chance to be an American hero.
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Guy dodges the draft then has the nerve to ridicule POW's.
 
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Willie-T said:
Do you doubt that both were, and are, exactly where God orchestrated?
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I don't ever doubt God. To evoke Godwin's law, I am confident God orchestrates everything... even Hitler coming to power. God is always in charge. He has a reason for everything, even if we don't understand it. His thoughts are not our thoughts and his ways are far beyond anything we can imagine.
 
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JonahLynx said:
Guy dodges the draft then has the nerve to ridicule POW's.
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To tell you the truth, if I hadn't had such a strong desire to fly helicopters and blow some things up, I might have tried to find some way out of going into the Military........ ESPECIALLY at that particular time.
 
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JonahLynx said:
Guy dodges the draft then has the nerve to ridicule POW's.
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Yes, but many of his supporters eat it up and agree. Rambo aka Donald Trump is the perfect judge of anything and everything to do with war and their heroes. It's just as ironic as Trump giving a seminar on "How to stay married and never divorce."
 
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I equate it to a husband saying something to his wife. " I could go sleep with someone else, and you still wouldn't leave me." He's insulting his wife's self-esteem. Trump said "I can go shoot someone, and not lose voters". Both are implying the people that are counting on these two (wife for husband's love and protective care/support, Trump the people's votes) and both could do something morally (husband cheating) and legally (Trump shooting someone) wrong without losing said support. The husband insults the wife's self-worth. Trump insults the intelligence of his supporters. I don't see any difference in the two.
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I don't think we can really know someones intentions until we ask them. There is this lady that I took parenting classes from years ago before my son was born. Her premise is that even tho kids (and adults btw) do something that on the outside looks mischievous or mean or downright disobedient....there is always (unless we're dealing with a psychopath) a good intention behind the behavior. So, maybe it was mean or degrading to some...I personally wasn't offended by it....but I wonder what the true intention behind what he said was. What I do know is that we all harbor some insecurity somewhere. If we didn't have any, we would be able to conquer sin without the blood of Jesus. If we didn't have any that would mean that the devil either doesn't exist or would have failed in instilling it in Adam and Eve. We want to be comfortable and we want what we think we have coming to us.... and that is why we misbehave. I have no doubt that Trump has pride....maybe more than some...maybe less than some. But we all have it and that cannot be denied.
 
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I don't think we can really know someones intentions until we ask them. There is this lady that I took parenting classes from years ago before my son was born. Her premise is that even tho kids (and adults btw) do something that on the outside looks mischievous or mean or downright disobedient....there is always (unless we're dealing with a psychopath) a good intention behind the behavior. So, maybe it was mean or degrading to some...I personally wasn't offended by it....but I wonder what the true intention behind what he said was. What I do know is that we all harbor some insecurity somewhere. If we didn't have any, we would be able to conquer sin without the blood of Jesus. If we didn't have any that would mean that the devil either doesn't exist or would have failed in instilling it in Adam and Eve. We want to be comfortable and we want what we think we have coming to us.... and that is why we misbehave. I have no doubt that Trump has pride....maybe more than some...maybe less than some. But we all have it and that cannot be denied.
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Don't people know that ANYONE wanting to hold office in this screwed-up, hateful country has to be a little off?
 
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Willie-T said:
To tell you the truth, if I hadn't had such a strong desire to fly helicopters and blow some things up, I might have tried to find some way out of going into the Military........ ESPECIALLY at that particular time.
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Fair enough, but if you reject the call to serve for your country then you have no right to insult those who made the sacrifice - especially not the ones who were captured for their service to YOU.
 
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Sirk said:
I don't think we can really know someones intentions until we ask them. There is this lady that I took parenting classes from years ago before my son was born. Her premise is that even tho kids (and adults btw) do something that on the outside looks mischievous or mean or downright disobedient....there is always (unless we're dealing with a psychopath) a good intention behind the behavior. So, maybe it was mean or degrading to some...I personally wasn't offended by it....but I wonder what the true intention behind what he said was. What I do know is that we all harbor some insecurity somewhere. If we didn't have any, we would be able to conquer sin without the blood of Jesus. If we didn't have any that would mean that the devil either doesn't exist or would have failed in instilling it in Adam and Eve. We want to be comfortable and we want what we think we have coming to us.... and that is why we misbehave. I have no doubt that Trump has pride....maybe more than some...maybe less than some. But we all have it and that cannot be denied.
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Did someone hack Sirk's account... This was an awesome post! :)
 
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Willie-T said:
Don't people know that ANYONE wanting to hold office in this screwed-up, hateful country has to be a little off?
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I ask the same question about everybody (especially myself) that posts in the news forum. lol
 
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JonahLynx said:
Fair enough, but if you reject the call to serve for your country then you have no right to insult those who made the sacrifice - especially not the ones who were captured for their service to YOU.
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I'll give ya that. His alligator mouth DOES seem to overload his hummingbird hind end sometimes..... except that he's no hummingbird... a fact that thousands of his competitors will attest to.
 
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