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JaumeJ

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You are making ridculous arguments to support you. Anythng from a believer agains God, Father, Son or Holy Spirit is blasphemy. You have alredy been informed of this when you asked before.

Is it that you are not yet but wish to be converted to being a child of God. His children will not speak agains Him for His children know it is satanic to spaek in any manner against Him. This does answer your question.


If i were to ask "can you prove Jesus rose from the dead"? Is that blasphemous? How about "can you prove God is the creator of everything"? Is that blashemous? What you may see as blasphemous are mearly questions intended to make you think about why you believe what you believe. These are standard questions in appologetics. We are told to be able to give an answer as to why we have faith. (Php 1:16, 1:27, 1 Peter 3:15-17 Jude 3). These "threads" that you see as blasphemous are really intended to make us question what we believe and why we believe so that we are prepared to give an answer for our faith. I do not believe they were posted in a blasphemous way. I believe they were posted this way to help each of us come to a better understanding as to why and what we believe. There have been quite a few Christian appologists that have become Christians because they asked these questions of themselves and God revealed Himself to them through these questions. I have found in my own studies that by trying to "prove" myself wrong on a certain theological subject, that i believe, that God has shown my understanding to be correct. He has also shown me in a few cases where i was wrong in my understanding thus showing me truth.
 

JaumeJ

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People who are saying I am judging others and/or saying who may or may not blasphyeme God are really prefabricating baseless charges and assessments of what I have posted, so here is teh crux of the OP for your minds' abilities:

As a believer of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, I respecfully request that others who post here refrain from using blasphemy as some kind of shock-hook to draw others to what tehy post. No one who is seriously in love with God would eer entrtain saying anything against the God Who is Love and Perfect.

As for my proving anything to anyone who would ask about ourLord's resurrection, this too is a matter of faith, and faith is beliving in things yet unseen, but uinbeliving trolls cannot wrap their brains around this truth because they only can believe in things yet palpable, things they can see. You folks do not truly stand behind anything you say, not even your charges agains others. God laughs as such.
 

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Romans 2:1 ¶ Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

Let us not use our moralism to condemn others for our moralism is far inferior to Gods perfect moralism.

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Actually I believe you really need to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and stop judging people for not believe in everything you want others to accept as truths from you.

I see no love in you for our Brothers in Christ. All i see is a non believer trying to control what others post. Have you ever considered accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior? How can you even think you are a child of God when all you want to do is censor everybody who is a Child of God?

Its interesting you have the verse in Matthew 7:1 that says not to judge but yet you have judged a Brother in Christ!

Could it be you love to quote Scriptures but really do not follow them? How can you say judge not when you have judged our Brother PaulMack????

I totally believe that you JaumeJ are a wolf in sheep clothing. And yes i have just judged you based on you hatred towards believers who walk with God.

May God have Mercy on your Soul for what you have done JaumeJ.
 

JaumeJ

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As far as I am concerned it takes someone who is not spiritually whole to say a person has not come to Christ's Blood for his salvation when all that person is guilty of is requesting people not blaspheme.

In no posst have I judged even these lost persons, people who blaspheme. Anyone who says this is not true, is a liar.

Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, and His blood makes me clean of the guilt of sin.

This confession is teh spirit of prophecy, as itis written.

How anyone can say it is judging to ask, to request, that people do not blasphem tells me these people cannot love God enough to want to please only Him, and this is a crying shame.

Now, those who say I have been judgine anyone todamnation are liars, for I do not do this, however we are all considered hypocrites by Jesus Christ if we do not judge for ourselves what is right.

My judgmen for myself is simple, it is blasphemy to say anything against our belove Savior, Jesus Christ, and it is a sin. I so saying I do judge for myslef what is right while requestion that people not blasphe our God and SAvior.

I am aware that those coming up with these accusations are not in Christ, because we know a tree by thefruit it bears, and anyone saying it is wrong to ask others not to blasphem is sorely misguided, perhaps simply in darkenss.

May God bless you all, those in Christ, and those who will be, amen.


Actually I believe you really need to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and stop judging people for not believe in everything you want others to accept as truths from you.

I see no love in you for our Brothers in Christ. All i see is a non believer trying to control what others post. Have you ever considered accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior? How can you even think you are a child of God when all you want to do is censor everybody who is a Child of God?

Its interesting you have the verse in Matthew 7:1 that says not to judge but yet you have judged a Brother in Christ!

Could it be you love to quote Scriptures but really do not follow them? How can you say judge not when you have judged our Brother PaulMack????

I totally believe that you JaumeJ are a wolf in sheep clothing. And yes i have just judged you based on you hatred towards believers who walk with God.

May God have Mercy on your Soul for what you have done JaumeJ.
 

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You are making ridculous arguments to support you. Anythng from a believer agains God, Father, Son or Holy Spirit is blasphemy. You have alredy been informed of this when you asked before.

Is it that you are not yet but wish to be converted to being a child of God. His children will not speak agains Him for His children know it is satanic to spaek in any manner against Him. This does answer your question.
You dont quite get it. If i were to ask you "why do you believe in God?" What would your answer be?

And in your second paragraph you are judging me by saying i am not yet converted yet wish to be. You are being judge and jury knowing nothing about me besides my posts. Judge not lest you be judged also.

So what is your answer? "Why do you believe in God?"
 

JaumeJ

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You don't quite get it do you? You are trying in vain to get me to actually sin. This happened to our blessed Jesus Christ. He has taught His children well.

Now make the good confession of Christ's most precious Blood for all to know how much of a family member you are. I have done it for you, which is more than deserved by so many.
 

Sac49

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You don't quite get it do you? You are trying in vain to get me to actually sin. This happened to our blessed Jesus Christ. He has taught His children well.

Now make the good confession of Christ's most precious Blood for all to know how much of a family member you are. I have done it for you, which is more than deserved by so many.
No i am not "trying to make you sin". Since you told me i have not yet been converted yet wish to be and according to Gods Word you are to spread the Gospel tell me why i should give my life to Jesus. What makes you "better" than me? Is it a sin for you to tell me why you believe in God?
 

JaumeJ

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I am sorry you believe I was sharing all of the gospel with you as being a non-believfer. This is a Bible Discussion Forum not an evangelical pulpit, and the folks coming in here are supposed to be in Jesus Christ or open to Him.

Now I am addressing those who believe to please refrain from utilizing blasphemy as a shock tactic in order to drum up a reader following.

We who believe Jesus Chrisst so not support blaspheming, nor do we condemn any who do blasphme for we are aware that all sins will be forgiven except fof brlaspheming the Holy Spirit, and in one gospel it goes so far as to say that a person could be condemned for this, but not definitely while the other place it is brought up says it is a definite falling into condemnation, but not be believers, rather by God, Himself.

There is no need to say anything agains our God, for He is our King and our Savior. As Isaiah teaches us, 9:6, Jesus Christ will be called Everlasting Father, God Almighty, Ruler of Peace, Councelor, Comforter, and more. In teaching this, we know that Jesus Christ is theFather, The Son and the Holy Spirt. No, I do not pretend to understand this completely, but no one else does either,,. The point is I believe God always and always before I believe men.

Because I love God for Savion my worthless being, it is a tremendous pain to see blasphemy in a forum that is supposed to be peopled by believers and/or seekers. If you do not yet believe Jesus Christ, you are still in what is called time, and that is a gift from the Father giving you time to trun from the world and this age to the Kingdom and eternal truth.

You really ought not come into a place where people believe God according to the Torah and New Testament and preach against what they say if you do notunderstand how hurtful blasphemy is to God' children.

God does not mind because He is truly impervious to the slings and arrows of outrageous disbelievers, but it is not wise to speak agains the Maker of all that is, especially since He loves us all the same.


No i am not "trying to make you sin". Since you told me i have not yet been converted yet wish to be and according to Gods Word you are to spread the Gospel tell me why i should give my life to Jesus. What makes you "better" than me? Is it a sin for you to tell me why you believe in God?
 

Sac49

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I am sorry you believe I was sharing all of the gospel with you as being a non-believfer. This is a Bible Discussion Forum not an evangelical pulpit, and the folks coming in here are supposed to be in Jesus Christ or open to Him.

Now I am addressing those who believe to please refrain from utilizing blasphemy as a shock tactic in order to drum up a reader following.

We who believe Jesus Chrisst so not support blaspheming, nor do we condemn any who do blasphme for we are aware that all sins will be forgiven except fof brlaspheming the Holy Spirit, and in one gospel it goes so far as to say that a person could be condemned for this, but not definitely while the other place it is brought up says it is a definite falling into condemnation, but not be believers, rather by God, Himself.

There is no need to say anything agains our God, for He is our King and our Savior. As Isaiah teaches us, 9:6, Jesus Christ will be called Everlasting Father, God Almighty, Ruler of Peace, Councelor, Comforter, and more. In teaching this, we know that Jesus Christ is theFather, The Son and the Holy Spirt. No, I do not pretend to understand this completely, but no one else does either,,. The point is I believe God always and always before I believe men.

Because I love God for Savion my worthless being, it is a tremendous pain to see blasphemy in a forum that is supposed to be peopled by believers and/or seekers. If you do not yet believe Jesus Christ, you are still in what is called time, and that is a gift from the Father giving you time to trun from the world and this age to the Kingdom and eternal truth.

You really ought not come into a place where people believe God according to the Torah and New Testament and preach against what they say if you do notunderstand how hurtful blasphemy is to God' children.

God does not mind because He is truly impervious to the slings and arrows of outrageous disbelievers, but it is not wise to speak agains the Maker of all that is, especially since He loves us all the same.
Well if an unbeliever does come here dont you think it might be a wise idea to tell them about Christ in stead of saying that "this site is for believers"? If you are telling non believers that then you are giving them the wrong impression of Christianity. You basically told them that this is a "private" site for believers only. I myself would like a non believer to come here so that we could tell them the "good news". Unlike you were it seems it is only the "privileged believets" that are welcome here.
 

JaumeJ

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I believe our identification among those who already beliee is love for Jesus Christ. I have no way of know a person is not in Christ if they are in this forum because the rules are for those who believe the Word of God or are willing to talk about the Word of God.

My post is directed at believers, because non-believers and/or trolss would not care in the first place. It does no good for a no-believer to chide believers if they do not know or care what they are posting in the forum

I do not want those who are declared as belonging to Jesus christ to be deceived by blasphemy. It would seem even a non-believer could grasp onto this. Again, God will keep track of those who are truly sinful, but people can slip who do believe and be wrongly influenced by such attitudes as thos have who are perfectly willing to blaspheme our belove God, the One Who suffered and died for all to understand His love is He and it is perfect, not like what people sometims call love.

As for preaching, I would like you to think on just how wicked mankind has been from the dawn of recorded history. Think hard on thi, and when you realize as I did, "Hay, I am a man," "You God are It (all)." this is repenting from the works of this world and truning to God. He will fillyou with His Holy Spirit and the knowledge necessary to have confidence that Jersus Christ is yours adn all's Salvation from the pain, suffering, oppression and anything else evil,. You will know that all of that evil will be, must be, separated one day from joy, equity, love, gladness, everlasting life, and all that is good. You will becom part of all that is Godo, for that is God.

He willo begin a work in you that will be ongoing until He calls us home, and on that great and glorious day we will be finally perfect, perfected by God.

Jesus Christ is Lord, God and Savior, no doubt aout it, amen. God bless you. The majority of what is posted in here is nice to learn and know about, but the only true knowledge that is important in this age for any of us is Jesus Chrsit crucified for our benefit, washing away the guilt of all our iniquity with His very own Blood, amen.


Well if an unbeliever does come here dont you think it might be a wise idea to tell them about Christ in stead of saying that "this site is for believers"? If you are telling non believers that then you are giving them the wrong impression of Christianity. You basically told them that this is a "private" site for believers only. I myself would like a non believer to come here so that we could tell them the "good news". Unlike you were it seems it is only the "privileged believets" that are welcome here.
 

Sac49

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I am sorry you believe I was sharing all of the gospel with you as being a non-believfer. This is a Bible Discussion Forum not an evangelical pulpit, and the folks coming in here are supposed to be in Jesus Christ or open to Him.

Now I am addressing those who believe to please refrain from utilizing blasphemy as a shock tactic in order to drum up a reader following.

We who believe Jesus Chrisst so not support blaspheming, nor do we condemn any who do blasphme for we are aware that all sins will be forgiven except fof brlaspheming the Holy Spirit, and in one gospel it goes so far as to say that a person could be condemned for this, but not definitely while the other place it is brought up says it is a definite falling into condemnation, but not be believers, rather by God, Himself.

There is no need to say anything agains our God, for He is our King and our Savior. As Isaiah teaches us, 9:6, Jesus Christ will be called Everlasting Father, God Almighty, Ruler of Peace, Councelor, Comforter, and more. In teaching this, we know that Jesus Christ is theFather, The Son and the Holy Spirt. No, I do not pretend to understand this completely, but no one else does either,,. The point is I believe God always and always before I believe men.

Because I love God for Savion my worthless being, it is a tremendous pain to see blasphemy in a forum that is supposed to be peopled by believers and/or seekers. If you do not yet believe Jesus Christ, you are still in what is called time, and that is a gift from the Father giving you time to trun from the world and this age to the Kingdom and eternal truth.

You really ought not come into a place where people believe God according to the Torah and New Testament and preach against what they say if you do notunderstand how hurtful blasphemy is to God' children.

God does not mind because He is truly impervious to the slings and arrows of outrageous disbelievers, but it is not wise to speak agains the Maker of all that is, especially since He loves us all the same.
By your words here, if i was a non believer, i could only assume that the Word of God and the Gospel of Jesus Christ is only for those who believe. What happens if a non believer entets the church building? Do you tell them its reserved for believers only? The Gospel is for all mankind. Some will believe it and give their lives to Christ and othets wont. But with the type of reply you have here you just turned away anyone who might have questions and have come to a Christian chat forum looking for answers. You have told them they are not welcome because they arent believers.

Instead of looking at these "blasphemous" threads and accusing others maybe you could answer them according to Gods Word and speak the truth that could save someones life. But nope you would rsther accuse someone of being blasphemous without knowing why the thread was posted. You keep saying not to judge but yet you are doing just that. Shoot you even accused me of being not converted without knowing much about me and it seems you still believe that about me because i am "playing the devils advocate" to make a point. Its not being blasphemous but i am sure you see it that way.
 

JaumeJ

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I do not wish to blindly pursue an endless dialogue on the Godpel of Jesus christ. The Gospel is for all who will believe, and I say this out of faith in God. No, I will not by any means try to convince anyone of the Gospel by some kind of palpable formula, for believing the Gospel hangs on faith, and faith comes from God. It is a gift. It sounds paradoxical, and perhaps it is, all I know is my salvation came when my heart had been destroyed by mankind's inhumanity to man, and I aske "You are who you are" if I could be given to know Him. Long story follows but one day walking across the Quadrangle at my University, I was mulling over kind of prayer-talking to God, and what I posted to you happened to me. God gave me faith and brought me to Jesus Christ. No man did this. I read teh Bible after this experienc, and only then did I believe. It is a gift upon repentence from this age, this world. We turn in spirit and truth to God Who begins that work in us, perfecting us.

Now I do not believe in anything intellectu regarding this process. I believe in the miracle of conversion by God, Himself, and this is what you should expect if yo are truly seeking. God bless you and hold you near and show you the wonders of Jesus Christ, the HOly Spirit and His Great and Perfect love, in Jesus Christ's name, amen. Good night from me to yo .
 

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What is this post really about? Just praise God and give him the glory for what he does, has done and will do. What titles are you referring to?
 

JaumeJ

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Perhaps by reading what has led up to the last posts you may understand, otherwise I advise you if you wish to be in th OP to read the OP and try to respond to it. I confess becaue of questions from others I did get off track. I will try to remain closer to the OP theme. God bless you.
 
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Actually I believe you really need to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and stop judging people for not believe in everything you want others to accept as truths from you.

I see no love in you for our Brothers in Christ. All i see is a non believer trying to control what others post. Have you ever considered accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior? How can you even think you are a child of God when all you want to do is censor everybody who is a Child of God?

Its interesting you have the verse in Matthew 7:1 that says not to judge but yet you have judged a Brother in Christ!

Could it be you love to quote Scriptures but really do not follow them? How can you say judge not when you have judged our Brother PaulMack????

I totally believe that you JaumeJ are a wolf in sheep clothing. And yes i have just judged you based on you hatred towards believers who walk with God.

May God have Mercy on your Soul for what you have done JaumeJ.
what's wrong, Mike????? I just left another thread and you were mad at another guy.

Somebody get outta bed on the wrong side today?
 

Vdp

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There is way too much in house fighting on this site,

Why psalm6819 are you jumping into a debate between others? Why are you just condemning Mike only? You should not be taking sides. This is not a he vs. he site.

You really need to stay out of discussions between others if they are heated discussions.
 

p_rehbein

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There is way too much in house fighting on this site,

Why psalm6819 are you jumping into a debate between others? Why are you just condemning Mike only? You should not be taking sides. This is not a he vs. he site.

You really need to stay out of discussions between others if they are heated discussions.
Pot.................meet..............Kettle

Given you have done exactly the same things you charge Sister Psalmist with doing, uh, er, practice what you preach?

And if you guys want to have a "set to" with someone, have it with me, and leave the Ladies here alone. I do not care IF they post a comment, leave them alone and post your comments to me.

Otherwise, well.............
 

p_rehbein

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Perhaps by reading what has led up to the last posts you may understand, otherwise I advise you if you wish to be in th OP to read the OP and try to respond to it. I confess becaue of questions from others I did get off track. I will try to remain closer to the OP theme. God bless you.
Brother, you are wasting your time...........some of these guys have no interest in an honest discussion of what you stated in the OP. They only want to disrupt and cause dissention within the members here on CC.

There are several of us who understood what you stated in the OP, and that your reasons had nothing to do with the false charges that have been made against you by those seeing to create dissention here.

I know it is EXACTLY what they want, so I am not saying you should just give up on this thread. Rather, stop responding to their false accusations and their comments whose only purpose is to cause disruption and dissention.

Only respond to those who sincerely want to discuss the thoughts you put forth in the OP.

There comes a time to sweep out the chafe that has gathered on the floor while gleaning the wheat from Scripture. This is probably one of those times.

God bless you, and I am proud to call you a Brother in Christ..........EVEN IF we disagree here and there on some points of theological ideologies. :)
 

Vdp

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You are very rude p_renbein.