Somehow, the discussion will lead to what's really the gift of God is. Is it eternal life or faith? What I believe is eternal life, that is the gift of God and not faith...
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pottersclay
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Ya see it's like this my fellow seeker...salvation is not extended to them...damnation is. That why they fear and tremble.
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Ariel82
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Believing and having faith in Christ for salvation is totally different....
I believe that Obama is president of the US....I don't have faith that he will adopt me as his daughter.
Mainly because he never promised me that.
In the same way demons know Jesus is Messiah, but they don't have faith that Jesus died for their sins upon the cross and allow them to become Children of God.
The promise, the Gospel of Jesus is foolishness to the gentiles and a stumbling block to the Jews.
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Ariel82
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God gives people more than one gift...faith, eternal life,spiritual gifts for edification of the body, food,shelter, rest, peace, joy, etc.
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Ariel82
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Wow...a bit heavy on the sarcasm?
When I get like this God normally tells me to take time away from cc and spend some quiet time with Him....just a suggestion.
Salvation is not open to demons.. to what they believe is irrelevant.. Salvation is open only to Human beings.. Also Faith is trusting in God.. the demons do not even need to trust in what God did for human beings.. Equating demons with humans is a non-starter..
Why does God talk directly to you and tell you what to do, but with me, He uses you to just make suggestions? Hardly seems fair.
(I know, I know, more sarcasm.)
But God bless you, Ariel82, and that is not sarcasm.
I mean that sincerely from the heart.
God bless you, in Jesus' name.
Hello fredoheaven,
Yes, eternal life is the gift of God, but it comes through faith, which God gives to each believer. As scripture states, God gives each of us a measure of faith. Without the gift of God's in-birthing of faith, we cannot obtain eternal life. Faith is never something that the believer is able to produce on his/her own. It is God who in-births faith in us and our part is our belief, our being persuaded of that revelation. As you can see from the scripture provided, faith is in deed a gift from God.
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The gift of God is God! But there are now so many personalized definitions and hooey on this thread, it's nothing but a game to win anymore. (Not referencing you, Fred. Just suggesting that since everyone went off and invented their own definitions and "semantics," no one is listening anymore anyway.)
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Have you even tried, to find out if it hurts or not? (And that wasn't sarcasm. That was noting your flippancy on more than one thread.)
Sorry, negative Nellie, didn't know you were the standard-bearer for prim and proper personality.
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FreeNChrist
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"Faith" there is not speaking of saving faith, but of the Christian faith and the ministry of which each of us has been given a “measure of". No one person is capable of expressing the total faith-expression of the Body of Christ, the Church. Which is why we need each other.
It goes along with what Paul says in, 2 Cor. 10:12-13, that we will not (nor can we or should we) boast beyond the measure we have been given, but we will (we can and we would be right to do so) boast within the measure of the sphere which God apportioned to us as a measure. We should not shrink from declaring the truth we have been given, neither should we go beyond what we have been given.
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No. Obviously, you think you are. Assigning blame to anyone who disagrees with you or calls you on it. And passing off your own blame with "hurts" and "semantics."
Beside (Romans 10:9) "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." and (Mark 16:16) "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." many tend to not think of (Matthew 24:13 & 10:22 & Mark 13:13) "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
Indication of believers and unbelievers: "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)
Indication of believers and unbelievers: "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)
oh come on Lynn, knock off the petty nonsense. I couldn't give a ratsis who disagrees with me and you know it. Semantics, huh. Gosh, one good brother used it properly in his post, and people had to run and look it up and start using it themselves. Lol.
A similar thing happened to me recently. I used the word 'dour' and it suddenly became popular. Reminds me of the old 'gravitas' fiasco. All the cool kids are doin' it.
Assigning blame. Hyuk-yuk. Petty good.
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Ariel82
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If we boast, we should boast of Christ work in us.
...I need to read the rest of comments cuz I am wondering how the conversation meander away from the topic of how to receive salvation.....nope still wondering...
1 Corinthians 1:31 ►
New International Version
Therefore, as it is written: "Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.
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Ariel82
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2 Corinthians: 10. 13. But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you. 14. For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ: 15. Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly, 16. To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man's line of things made ready to our hand. 17. But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. 18. For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth. -
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Ariel82
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If we are talking about faith being a gift from God, I like this verse....
Romans 12:3 ►
New International Version
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.
Truthfully I have lost track of the conversation, maybe OP can help?
Romans 12:3 ►
New International Version
For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.
Truthfully I have lost track of the conversation, maybe OP can help?