The Trump is terrible thread...
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I'm hoping Peacenik will explain to everybody why it's good and acceptable to vote for the spouse of a former POTUS who actually performed pornographic/adulterous acts smack square in the sacred oval office but it's evil to vote for the spouse of a former European model who took a few nude pics when she was in her 20's 
. Incidentally ... nudity is not viewed in the same manner in Europe as it is in the west. That's why topless beaches abound. Oh well. I'm sure Peacenik will explain everything to us ... including how he even found these pics given the "media bias" Donald Trump always gets .
. Incidentally ... nudity is not viewed in the same manner in Europe as it is in the west. That's why topless beaches abound. Oh well. I'm sure Peacenik will explain everything to us ... including how he even found these pics given the "media bias" Donald Trump always gets .
I'm hoping Peacenik will explain to everybody why it's good and acceptable to vote for the spouse of a former POTUS who actually performed pornographic/adulterous acts smack square in the sacred oval office but it's evil to vote for the spouse of a former European model who took a few nude pics when she was in her 20's . Incidentally ... nudity is not viewed in the same manner in Europe as it is in the west. That's why topless beaches abound. Oh well. I'm sure Peacenik will explain everything to us ... including how he even found these pics given the "media bias" Donald Trump always gets .
. Incidentally ... nudity is not viewed in the same manner in Europe as it is in the west. That's why topless beaches abound. Oh well. I'm sure Peacenik will explain everything to us ... including how he even found these pics given the "media bias" Donald Trump always gets .
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Anyone with half a brain that is over 17, 18 years old knows that ANY politician can and will change his mind at times. It is not always because he lied. Sometimes it is. But many times it can be because he has a better understanding of the facts. We also seem to forget just about all politicians enjoy applause, and while i am not condoning it, they sometimes play to the crowd.
In fact, this is one of the basic things they teach in public speaking classes. You have to know your audience.
What seems to sometimes get lost is the Big Picture.
People who like or who are voting for Trump are voting for him as much, if not more, based on his character and how he presents himself as his views and proposals. It is a mindset that places Hillary and Trump worlds apart, in many voters brains and hearts.
Trump, outspoken as he is, to many of us who will vote for him, is essentially honest, wants to do good for America, and is closer to the Christian world view then Hillary. That last one is a huge understatement. Hillary is serving Satan. She as about as far from the Christian creed as one can be without practicing a satanic ritual or being part of a satanic cult.
So one can say what they will about Trump to Trump supporters. It is less about doing with us, and more about being.
He may make mistakes, may even lie, he may say outrageous things, but that is not going to change how we think about him. So anyone coming on here saying he said this or that about the wall, or anything like that, to be blunt, your wasting your time.
Come on here and say that you have proof he is anti God, or that he hates America and is a secret agent, or that he is a wife beater, or did incest with his kids, then you have something.
Otherwise, your whistling in the wind.
In fact, this is one of the basic things they teach in public speaking classes. You have to know your audience.
What seems to sometimes get lost is the Big Picture.
People who like or who are voting for Trump are voting for him as much, if not more, based on his character and how he presents himself as his views and proposals. It is a mindset that places Hillary and Trump worlds apart, in many voters brains and hearts.
Trump, outspoken as he is, to many of us who will vote for him, is essentially honest, wants to do good for America, and is closer to the Christian world view then Hillary. That last one is a huge understatement. Hillary is serving Satan. She as about as far from the Christian creed as one can be without practicing a satanic ritual or being part of a satanic cult.
So one can say what they will about Trump to Trump supporters. It is less about doing with us, and more about being.
He may make mistakes, may even lie, he may say outrageous things, but that is not going to change how we think about him. So anyone coming on here saying he said this or that about the wall, or anything like that, to be blunt, your wasting your time.
Come on here and say that you have proof he is anti God, or that he hates America and is a secret agent, or that he is a wife beater, or did incest with his kids, then you have something.
Otherwise, your whistling in the wind.
V
There is a fundamental difference between changing your mind/opinion "at times" and being insincere with whatever was initially stated.
Trump supporters themselves will agree that Trump has said what he needed to say (lied) because he was in bed with politicians. A perfect example is how he bought Hillary and Bill. Prior to running for presidency, he said that Hillary was the greatest Secretary of State of all time. He is even on record saying Hillary would make a great president one day. Now, she is crooked and should be locked up. I'm not sure what Trump sincerely believes, but it's safe to assume he was insincere then or now (possibly both) in regards to his feelings of the Clintons (who attended his wedding).
When one perpetually changes ones mind "at times", it gives to the theory he was insincere then or he's insincere now.
Trump supporters themselves will agree that Trump has said what he needed to say (lied) because he was in bed with politicians. A perfect example is how he bought Hillary and Bill. Prior to running for presidency, he said that Hillary was the greatest Secretary of State of all time. He is even on record saying Hillary would make a great president one day. Now, she is crooked and should be locked up. I'm not sure what Trump sincerely believes, but it's safe to assume he was insincere then or now (possibly both) in regards to his feelings of the Clintons (who attended his wedding).
When one perpetually changes ones mind "at times", it gives to the theory he was insincere then or he's insincere now.
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For Peacenik:
I think the point your making is quite valid about Melania Trump. I've read countless attacks against Michelle Obama on these forums. I don't really know why people like to attack the wives of people in power (or potentially in power), but there is an inconsistency with how they treat Michelle and how they treat Melania.
It is disturbing that she took her clothes off for money. It's disturbing that sex in the media is a common element instead of God, family, and/or service for our brothers and sisters. All I can do is hope her heart has changed and that she understands God's plan in regards to sex. Seeing as the 1st lady is in a position to influence children not only in the US, but across the world, I think it warrants caution for our young children, especially girls, looking up to her. My heart would break if I have a daughter who does some of the things she has done.
I think the point your making is quite valid about Melania Trump. I've read countless attacks against Michelle Obama on these forums. I don't really know why people like to attack the wives of people in power (or potentially in power), but there is an inconsistency with how they treat Michelle and how they treat Melania.
It is disturbing that she took her clothes off for money. It's disturbing that sex in the media is a common element instead of God, family, and/or service for our brothers and sisters. All I can do is hope her heart has changed and that she understands God's plan in regards to sex. Seeing as the 1st lady is in a position to influence children not only in the US, but across the world, I think it warrants caution for our young children, especially girls, looking up to her. My heart would break if I have a daughter who does some of the things she has done.
How does that relate to a husband cheating on his wife? My comment was blaming her for being cheated on. That's equivalent to blaming the women on here for being cheating on. That's equivalent to blaming Trump for his wife's porn performances. Those attributions are illogical. And either you don't know how to think logically or you just don't care how to. Regardless, it shows a lot about you. Without clarity and logic and even common sense (which God gave all of us to use), we'd just be acting like apes.
J
I think the Trump thumpers are somewhat sweet They are buying no good merchandise over and over again, yet they are defending the crooked salesman. A wife doing porn? No problem, she ain't doing it no more...Michelle Obama, though, she is just...uh...eh...dunno, really, but we still hate her...hypocrisy at its finest...
They are buying no good merchandise over and over again, yet they are defending the crooked salesman. A wife doing porn? No problem, she ain't doing it no more...Michelle Obama, though, she is just...uh...eh...dunno, really, but we still hate her...hypocrisy at its finest...
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Trump Is really just preaching to his BASE.People with a brain know he won't make good on any of his promises.
He Is giving a speech right now and his support Is chanting "BUILD THAT WALL,BUILD THAT WALL"I think they know he won't be building a wall.
I don't understand that hypnotic spell,I'm glad some of the republicans In high standing,see through this circus act.
He Is giving a speech right now and his support Is chanting "BUILD THAT WALL,BUILD THAT WALL"I think they know he won't be building a wall.
I don't understand that hypnotic spell,I'm glad some of the republicans In high standing,see through this circus act.
What you don't understand and might never, is the seething anger many people in this country have toward the elitist attitude many politicians, especially democrats have. You don't understand that people who were born here, who work here, who followed the rules are having the rug pulled out from them by liars and thieves. You don't get that people feel disenfranchised. They feel like what they do or say does not matter anymore.
they feel like they have been duped.
Many people feel like they are fighting a losing battle and there is no one in politics to really help them.
Why tou can;t see that, I am not sure. It is sure clear to me and over a 100 million other Americans.
Did you possibly grow up wealthy, or with a influential family?
Do you think this country is going in the right direction?
You think Hillary's views on ethical and unethical line up closer to Gods then Trumps?
You want a atheist in the white house? Because essentially, that is what she is, no matter what she says,
You'll know them by their fruits. Look at her actions, and listen to her words.
Your not concerned about your freedom of speech as a Christian?
they feel like they have been duped.
Many people feel like they are fighting a losing battle and there is no one in politics to really help them.
Why tou can;t see that, I am not sure. It is sure clear to me and over a 100 million other Americans.
Did you possibly grow up wealthy, or with a influential family?
Do you think this country is going in the right direction?
You think Hillary's views on ethical and unethical line up closer to Gods then Trumps?
You want a atheist in the white house? Because essentially, that is what she is, no matter what she says,
You'll know them by their fruits. Look at her actions, and listen to her words.
Your not concerned about your freedom of speech as a Christian?
By the way, far from making your point, what I think all JF proved is that your on the wrong side of the biblical argument when it comes to choosing a candidate.
But you can't see that either, I guess.
I would like to ask the same thing I asked PN.
What are your views on abortion, gun laws, same sex marriage, the death penalty, sex before marriage, one world religion, Israel as a ally, and the if we deserved to be terrorized by Muslims the way we are.
But you can't see that either, I guess.
I would like to ask the same thing I asked PN.
What are your views on abortion, gun laws, same sex marriage, the death penalty, sex before marriage, one world religion, Israel as a ally, and the if we deserved to be terrorized by Muslims the way we are.
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