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The Holy Spirit you cannot Blaspheme it.
The holy spirit is a him not a it, just a pet peeve I have.
The holy spirit is a him not a it, just a pet peeve I have.
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It's funny, I have the same peeve, and when I saw Him referred to as IT in the bible, I went, WHA HUH NO WAY, and I got a pet peeve with the bible, lol. It still bugs me, but there it is, I can't deny, and I can't wait to find out why it was written like that.
Unbiblical Answer....
If people want the Biblical answer yo to where Jesus revealed Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and you will find out the Biblical Answer..
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RBA238
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Let me if i may, try to explain why The "Holy Ghost/Spirit" is called HE....
JOHN 4 VERSE 24 "God is A SPIRIT, And those that worship HIM must worship him in Spirit and in truth" (KJV) . Sooo how many Spirits are there?...ONE...God is the only Spirit. The Trinity doctrine speaks of "3 Persons" which is a Myth started by The Catholic Church in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea, then later Adopted by most Christian Churches until this day. If "Person" is defined in accuracy; there is only ONE PERSON, God, in his created Human Body, Jesus Christ.
Jesus is/was both Spirit and Human in nature THE SON. However Jesus, although tempted on all points as all humans are, never committed one sin, nor was guile from his mouth ever heard. The Purpose of Jesus (God) being born in a human body, was to teach us how to live, and die eventually for all our sins at Calvary. The sacrifice for sins in the OT was by Spotless, Cattle, Goats. This was pointing to the NT where only a Spotless Human being could become our perfect sacrifice for God to forgive us...Read: Hebrews Chapter Nine,
for full explanation.
God is the only Perfect Being, and he created Jesus also perfect from birth to Dying on the Cross that ever lived.
Getting back to The "Trinity" of 3 "Persons":
We Read where God is a Spirit, and the Bible declares there is only ONE SPIRIT, NOT PERSON #1 (God "The Father") and Person #3 "The Holy Spirit/ Holy Ghost" Nor is "Person #2" in The Godhead another "Person" Jesus even told us who he was: John 10 verse 30: " I, AND MY FATHER ARE ONE". In John The Apostle asked Jesus "Lord, show us THE FATHER, Abd it suffices us". Jesus said: " Have I been so long with you Philip, you ask this? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME, HAS SEEN THE FATHER, So why say
"Show us The Father"? The Father and The Son in this case are ONE. We men all have a Father but we cannot say "I and my Father are ONE" because we are 2 seperated individuals.
God being a Pure Spirit, nobody has ever seen in pure Spirit; could not die for our sins because a SPIRIT CANNOT DIE, OR SHED BLOOD. Only His created fleshly body (Jesus ) could do that.
Questions? Be glad to answer.
You seem to deny the trinity.
But the trinity is revealed in scripture. I know that many religions with false gods deny this, including the big popular one for the moment that says their god is not a father and their god has no son, so you're not the first to espouse this view.
But the bible, and the TRUE and living God says different.
The bible even states that if you don't have the Son, (Jesus) you don't have (God) the Father either.
And not only are there many passages where the trinity is found, but there are places where the trinity is in one verse, and at one event, distinctly, in three persons.
See Jesus' baptism, for instance.....
Jesus is in the water. The Holy Ghost comes upon Him, and God the Father speaks from heaven...they obviously could hear HIM, so God is a person...He has personage, personhood and personality.
Three distinct persons at one event.
Jesus said He would go, and the Holy Ghost would come, to be with us and in us. Jesus said HE the Holy Spirit would teach us, He would comfort us, He guides us into the truth, He exalts Jesus, He intercedes for us, convicts, reproves, etc. etc., you get the drift.
The Holy Ghost is God, but is obviously not the Son, nor is He the Father. But He has personality, therefore a person. Not as we understand a man or a woman, but personage, personhood all the same.
So we see three persons, but one God. Distinct but not separate.
We see the Holy Spirit referred to as Christ's Spirit. Jesus said His Spirit. The bible also says God's Spirit. All God, and yet Jesus said the Father would send the Spirit in His name. Go figure.
And all the fullness of the Godhead dwells bodily in Jesus. Go figure THAT.
Can our finite minds as creatures use the creation to understand, define, and explain the Creator? Lol, that's cute to even think we can, but we sure do try, don't we, lol.
We're limited to time and space and certain dimensions, and God is so much bigger and multi-faceted than we can imagine.
And unfortunately when we struggle to understand, we tend to deny.
But explaining the personage of God completely may just be beyond us.
That doesn't make it any less true.
The bible says Christ in you, the hope of glory.
We believe it, but how to explain it?
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RBA238
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I read all your comments, and I have 29 years of teaching and knowing exactly who Jesus is. He is the Only True Wise, Eternal God except in a fleshly body, because noone can see Almighyty God in Spirit...as I stated Apostle Philip asked Jesus: "Lord, show us The Father, and it will suffice us" John 12 verse 45: "And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me"
( Because we cannot See God in Spirit Form)
In John 14 verses 7-10, Read those verses carefully. There are not "3 persons in one God" there are 3 offices or Administrations of God.
( Because we cannot See God in Spirit Form)
In John 14 verses 7-10, Read those verses carefully. There are not "3 persons in one God" there are 3 offices or Administrations of God.
Nope, three persons.
Does an office or administration think, feel, love, create, etc.?
Does an office give His only begotten Son?
Does an administration pray to His Father in heaven? Or die for another?
Does an office pray, intercede, comfort or indwell you?
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RBA238
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We are not talking about an "Office" where a group of people work. There is only One Eternal Dpirit of God The Father and Holy Ghost are one and the same Spirit..The Son is the visible manifestation of The Unseen Spirit/ Eternal God..they are all ONE Not 3 Persons
How are you missing this?
(Yes, I know it's not an office like a building where people work!)
(And when we say 'person' it doesn't mean like us, except when the Lord took upon Himself human flesh. But person=having personhood/personage/personality, as opposed to gas or vapor)
Is the Father God? Yes.
Is the Son God? Yes.
Is the Holy Ghost God? Yes.
Is the Father a person? Yes.
Is the Son a person? Yes.
Is the Holy Ghost a person? Yes.
Is the Father the Son? No.
Is He the Holy Ghost? No.
Is the Son the Holy Ghost? No.
Can our finite minds fully comprehend the Infinite God now? No.
But is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost three persons?
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RBA238
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You can't comprehend it, because The Spirit of God hasen't revealed it to you, or no one else until they are open minded to see it through hours of study and putting all the pieces of the puzzle together. There are no 3 persons in God, just like The Sun God Trinity in ancient Egypt consisting of (1) ISIS (2) Horus (3) SEB existed either...Did you know this also where the Wafer God beleif came from (Holy Communion)?
wow, 29 years of study?!
I hope that school has shut down, they teach nonsense.
I feel bad you put that much time in, only to be so deceived.
I don't know where all the blame lies, but you can easily put it behind you. I'm sure you probably have alot of useful info that God can use you in certain areas, but you've got to get some basic fundamentals into you first.
God is love. It' who He is and it's what He does.
He is also infinite. God is always, but His creation had a beginning.
Before He created anything, there was God.
God loves His creation.
Who or what did God love before His creation?
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RBA238
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I did not attend a Bible College, or any Type of Theology school...I learned it from Fasting and prayer, and walking in God's Spirit, that's how i learned it from The Lord himself from His Holy
Spirit. I could care less what anyone thinks about what I declared. I told you The absolute truth no matter what you think or say. Let's just move on, no hard feelings, and if you don't understand what I stated, i completly understand..Amen
Well, is the Lord double-minded or schizo? Because you say He taught YOU that the trinity is a false doctrine, but christians the world over for centuries have claimed that the bible teaches that God is three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Not three offices, but three persons.
Are you claiming that you've been given special secret revelation from God, and the vast majority of believers down through the ages is wrong?
And...you didn't answer the last question...
If (since) God is love, who or what did He love before He created anything?
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RBA238
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Calling people of God "Scitzos" shows your carnal minded attitude...I only converse, and will not argue with anyone..so let us move on..
People will believe what they want to believe.
We must understand that once a persons Pride become involved in what he believes, they will never give up that false belief.
This is very true with the Cults and Catholicism. Neither will ever humble themselves to God and accept His Truths. Their Pride is greater than Gods Truths. They want to be in the limelight. Just like Satan who wanted his throne to be above God.
We must understand that once a persons Pride become involved in what he believes, they will never give up that false belief.
This is very true with the Cults and Catholicism. Neither will ever humble themselves to God and accept His Truths. Their Pride is greater than Gods Truths. They want to be in the limelight. Just like Satan who wanted his throne to be above God.
Correct the Bible clearly reveals that God raised Jesus from the dead. And indeed we must believe that God raised Jesus from the dead if not then we would be not be saved..
Romans 10:KJV
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
So AMEN God Raised Jesus from the Dead..
So now emjcares read the Next passage of the Gospel and see what our LORD Jesus said..
John 2: KJV
18 ¶Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
So here Jesus declared that I will raise it up, and the disciples under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit later understood that Jesus was talking of His own body.. So indeed God raised up Jesus from the Dead nad Jesus raised up Jesus from the dead because the Father and Jesus are One... But please read the next verse:::
Romans 8: KJV
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
So here Paul states clearly that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead.. The Spirit that dwelleth in Christians is the Holy Spirit.. So now we know that God the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the Dead Because these three are One..
1 John 5: KJV
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Of course we know that the ''Word" spoken of here is Jesus.. Jesus is the WORD of God..
This is also why the Prophet Isaiah revealed:::
Isaiah 9:KJV
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Jesus is LORD
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Romans 8:11
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
It was the Holy Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
It was the Holy Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead.