Obese patients face NHS surgery ban to save money

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If you are over weight and live in North Yorkshire you might want to
move somewhere else.

Obese patients face NHS surgery ban to save money - BBC News


Don't know how they can justify this except for clinical reasons where it would
be more dangerous to operate. If someone is overweight but needs hip,
knee or back surgery and is in constant pain, then I can't see how they can
successfully lose weight if they are in agony when they move.


It also has economic repercussions, if you can't work because you are in
constant pain for example.
Hubby lost 90 pounds without moving. It's a hard way to go, but it's doable.

I lost 50 an easier way, and I'm considered less sedentary than the definition of sedentary. The way to lose weight is to eat less calories than your body needs to use for output.

Granted, I think you NHS is crazy for more than one reason, but that's why I'm not particularly found of government regulating healthcare. This is what happens. Regulations and saving money skips the obvious component -- people/patients!

(Remember what happened to John when he was in our government's version of a hospital?)
 
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Wow this is opening a can of worms but..........they could begin by stopping doing unnecessary ops such as sex change operations and other cosmetic surgery (except where there has been an accident and someone needs correction surgery) an utter waste of money. God made us the way we are flaws included. I get angry that my money is wasted on such rubbish!

If they stop surgery for the obese they have to also stop it for smoking-related diseases, alcohol-related sickness and drug taking damage. It's opening a Pandora's box
Umm, they're also considering stopping surgeries for smokers too.
 
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#23
I think it's a good idea to get as physically ready for surgery as possible to
assist with recovery, eat well, try to lose a little weight, give up or cut down
on smoking drinking. This makes sense, but the above article suggests that's it,
tough no surgery unless you lose 10% body weight - then they might reconsider
in a year's time
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A year is a long time to suffer in pain with no job, how is that going to help with
depression, finances, motivation to get help for emotional issues etc.

I am also really sceptical. I have a brother who kept putting on weight the doctors
eventually tested him and said he had an under active thyroid problem. But it took
at least 2 years to get a diagnosis.

Then he had a hernia so had surgery, a few months later the hernia needed doing
again as the original surgery didn't hold. Then he got pneumonia and was on steroids
for a long time to clear his lungs. As a result of all this he ended up putting on lots of weight
through no fault of his own.

He struggled for a few years after to try to lose it before discovering that the thyroxine
meds were set too low and he needed a higher dose. He felt demoralised and depressed and
the hospital told him if he could prove he could stick to a healthy eating plan by losing
2 stone, they would give him stomach bypass surgery (sort of they're way of admitting they
had made a bit of a mess of things medically), and that he could also have the loose
skin later removed. Also about the same time he developed a third hernia.

Anyway he struggled to do it but at last seeing some light at the end of the tunnel, he lost
2 stone and went back to the hospital. Guess what they told him that due to the weight loss
he no longer qualified for the stomach bypass surgery and they also refused him a third
hernia operation unless he lost more weight! So on one hand he was too fat but on the other
hand he wasn't fat enough!

He got so mad at them that he decided he would show them and then went on to lose half his
body weight slimming right down to a trim healthy size. They still refused him a hernia
operation unless it became stangulated. He still has the hernia and it often causes him
problems.

Also they now refuse surgery for the loose skin as he eventually lost the weight on his own. If he had
been given the stomach bypass they would have done it automatically.

He is now a healthy weight but struggles more than ever with his body appearance and
with the hernia. Basically he will have to wait until it becomes strangulated and it becomes an
emergency to get it done.

So to me the above article just seems yet another excuse to cut costs.
What's the use of having the Chunnel thingy (thought you'd appreciate that "thingy" there), if he can't go to France to treat the hernia?
 
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Sorry maybe I should have said 14 lbs! I forget not everyone speaks the queens English. :D
I'm pretty bad with king's English, prince's English, and princess's English too. I'm not even good at London English, and rumor has it that London has a wide variety of English. lol
 
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Miri

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What's the use of having the Chunnel thingy (thought you'd appreciate that "thingy" there), if he can't go to France to treat the hernia?
If he went private, had the money and paid thousands he could get it done anywhere, even in
the UK - probably under the same NHS surgeon.
 
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Miri

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I'm pretty bad with king's English, prince's English, and princess's English too. I'm not even good at London English, and rumor has it that London has a wide variety of English. lol

You ant heard nowt till you've erd Yorkshire. :p
 
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jennymae

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You ant heard nowt till you've erd Yorkshire. :p
I went to Derwent, York, years back, and that Yorkshire accent was totally not comprehensible:p