Why the king james?
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You are still quoting that one verse from Psalm about word preserverd for all generations. OK.
Did David writing the Psalm have all KJV books? No. He had the Law and nothing else. Maybe some historical books like Judges, not sure.
Did the generation after David have all the KJV books? No.
Did the generation during prophets like Isaiah or Nehemiah have all the KJV books? No.
Etc, etc.
So my position about this is, that every generation has the word it needs. We dont have any manuscript or NT copy without any error, so apparently we dont need it.
We have very good and well preserved Word, suitable for our needs. Every compilation of manuscripts (TR, Nestlé Aland, Byzantine, LXX...) are the work of (godly) men, so it will always have some minor errors here or there.
That does not cancel the Bible as such, we know in 99% of NT what was the original reading.
Its worse with OT, but we are not under OT anymore, so we can live with that.
KJV is a very good translation of NT from good source (TR), very good translation of OT, but from not very good source (MSS).
LXX and majority text of NT are for me the best available texts, but they are compilation of various different copies, we must know that.
This is my position and opinion, just responding your question, not saying you must read LXX. Stick to your KJV, its a good Bible. But if you will tell me its without any error, I will stand against it and show you many.
Did David writing the Psalm have all KJV books? No. He had the Law and nothing else. Maybe some historical books like Judges, not sure.
Did the generation after David have all the KJV books? No.
Did the generation during prophets like Isaiah or Nehemiah have all the KJV books? No.
Etc, etc.
So my position about this is, that every generation has the word it needs. We dont have any manuscript or NT copy without any error, so apparently we dont need it.
We have very good and well preserved Word, suitable for our needs. Every compilation of manuscripts (TR, Nestlé Aland, Byzantine, LXX...) are the work of (godly) men, so it will always have some minor errors here or there.
That does not cancel the Bible as such, we know in 99% of NT what was the original reading.
Its worse with OT, but we are not under OT anymore, so we can live with that.
KJV is a very good translation of NT from good source (TR), very good translation of OT, but from not very good source (MSS).
LXX and majority text of NT are for me the best available texts, but they are compilation of various different copies, we must know that.
This is my position and opinion, just responding your question, not saying you must read LXX. Stick to your KJV, its a good Bible. But if you will tell me its without any error, I will stand against it and show you many.
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I understand what you're saying and I'm not attacking you, just defending what I believe to be the pure words of God as preserved in the English language.
We, as Christians, need absolute truth to stand before a lost, doubting world. If what we've got is not 100% truth, then what would make them want to follow it? I want to follow 100% truth as a believer. I call myself a Bible Believer because I believe every word and cast no doubt on any book, chapter, verse, or word. I believe we have a perfect word we can take to the world.
I've put my entire trust in my eternity in the Savior of the Scriptures. If I doubt the Scriptures, shouldn't that raise doubt to the Savior of the Scriptures?
We, as Christians, need absolute truth to stand before a lost, doubting world. If what we've got is not 100% truth, then what would make them want to follow it? I want to follow 100% truth as a believer. I call myself a Bible Believer because I believe every word and cast no doubt on any book, chapter, verse, or word. I believe we have a perfect word we can take to the world.
I've put my entire trust in my eternity in the Savior of the Scriptures. If I doubt the Scriptures, shouldn't that raise doubt to the Savior of the Scriptures?
I understand your desire to have a "perfect book, where every letter is right and every translated word is perfectly chosen".
But only God is perfect, no other creation is. No other thing is.
You dont need, for a godly life and knowing God, to know exactly the position of every letter in all 1500 pages of the Bible.
You need mainly NT and with NT we have almost 100% certainity in Greek. The small percentage we do not know the original wording is not changing any of our beliefs, because all we believe is repeated on various places.
The situation with OT is a little worse, but we dont need it as much as NT. Thats why God preserved NT in a much more better shape for us.
But when talking about translation, its another layer upon Greek texts, translator must choose one of various meanings and it cant be always perfect. But we have many online tools where you can check the original, look at lexicon etc. Again, God has provided us with what we need.
And if you would get to some isolated island without internet and any Bible, God would provide you with His Spirit so you would again have all what you need. He will never leave you. Its not dependent on a perfect translation.
But only God is perfect, no other creation is. No other thing is.
You dont need, for a godly life and knowing God, to know exactly the position of every letter in all 1500 pages of the Bible.
You need mainly NT and with NT we have almost 100% certainity in Greek. The small percentage we do not know the original wording is not changing any of our beliefs, because all we believe is repeated on various places.
The situation with OT is a little worse, but we dont need it as much as NT. Thats why God preserved NT in a much more better shape for us.
But when talking about translation, its another layer upon Greek texts, translator must choose one of various meanings and it cant be always perfect. But we have many online tools where you can check the original, look at lexicon etc. Again, God has provided us with what we need.
And if you would get to some isolated island without internet and any Bible, God would provide you with His Spirit so you would again have all what you need. He will never leave you. Its not dependent on a perfect translation.
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I see a difference between the Word of God spoken by His Spirit to be without error and the printed material version of compiled texts thousand years old translated to a very different languages than original is to be without any error.
You are thinking these two are the same.
And Willie-T is talking about the second one only, I think. That you are making the material thing in your hand to be in a perfect form (idol) like it would fell from heaven to your room.
You are thinking these two are the same.
And Willie-T is talking about the second one only, I think. That you are making the material thing in your hand to be in a perfect form (idol) like it would fell from heaven to your room.
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I'm banking on the promise that God made to preserve His pure words, plural, without any mixture or error. I believe God has fulfilled His promise in the English language in the KJV. Words are important to God, not just thoughts. He didn't promise to preserve His thoughts for us, but His words, plural.
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Careful, you're going to be attacked for posting such idolatry.