Freemasons

[pinkcandy]

some christians claim that they dont know about fremasonry. M relatives are freemasons AND no wonder wev had problems in my family for years and years. Thank God i got cut off from it. Many of the rituals they perform on each other rare horriffic and scary. Jesus definatly would warn anyone wanting to join them DONT DO IT

 

[Abing]

ive read about masonry .. and well i dont know if its true. but according to those books lol, masonry has something to do with catholics.

 

[MahogonySnail]

freemasonry is very much satanic, best not to get involved yes.

 

[pinkcandy]

amen amen many men get lured into these cofee mornings here in england. SADLY MY RELATIVE IS THE HEAD OF THE LODGES HERE IN ENGLAND. sad

 

[DansChance]

I agree with Mahogony Snail, its very much satanic. If you search thru the web using the words "freemasonry" and "occult" you find plenty of material. The sad part is it brings on generational curses so even if you were never involved, freemasonry cud still have a negative impact on your life. Never get involved with freemasonry or any of it's other organizations.

 

[Abing]

amen amen many men get lured into these cofee mornings here in england. SADLY MY RELATIVE IS THE HEAD OF THE LODGES HERE IN ENGLAND. sad

oh my gosh. thats terrible.

 

[A_Daily_Struggle]

Well first of all, since when do you believe everything that you read online? Personally I do not know a lot about Freemasons but I do have a friend who is one and is a christian. I think we as Christians like to judge others even though we know nothing about them, and because we know nothing, we usually make those things out to be horrible. Until you have personally been involved, I think that you have no right to judge. My friend has told me that all of this is false. They do not worship the devil or any or that but believe what you want. Just don't go around judging before you know all of your facts firsthand. But know this, Shriners are a part of Masonry and look at what they do. They are all about helping disabled children get better or to improve their circumstances especially for family's that cannot afford it. You cannot say that helping children is of the devil...

 

[NazariteNation]

Well first of all, since when do you believe everything that you read online? Personally I do not know a lot about Freemasons but I do have a friend who is one and is a christian. I think we as Christians like to judge others even though we know nothing about them, and because we know nothing, we usually make those things out to be horrible. Until you have personally been involved, I think that you have no right to judge. My friend has told me that all of this is false. They do not worship the devil or any or that but believe what you want. Just don't go around judging before you know all of your facts firsthand. But know this, Shriners are a part of Masonry and look at what they do. They are all about helping disabled children get better or to improve their circumstances especially for family's that cannot afford it. You cannot say that helping children is of the devil...

Your friend must be low on the totem pole. My brother married into a family of former Freemasons who have some strange stories to tell.

 

[NightShadow]

This arguement is as old as the hills. Freemasons have been getting accused of satanic worship since Léo Taxil wrote a series of pamphlets againest freemasonry. Freemasonry is nothing more then a bunch of old men who get together once a week and put on some really cheesy skits, an raise millions of dollars for charity. These claims of masonry being a satanic or evil organization have no merit to them. Yes if you are to do a search on freemasonry you will find thousands of websites claming that they are an occult, and the higher degree lie to the lower degrees. If this true why is there 6.6million members world wide who will tell you its rubbish?

 

[miktre]

This arguement is as old as the hills. Freemasons have been getting accused of satanic worship since Léo Taxil wrote a series of pamphlets againest freemasonry. Freemasonry is nothing more then a bunch of old men who get together once a week and put on some really cheesy skits, an raise millions of dollars for charity. These claims of masonry being a satanic or evil organization have no merit to them. Yes if you are to do a search on freemasonry you will find thousands of websites claming that they are an occult, and the higher degree lie to the lower degrees. If this true why is there 6.6million members world wide who will tell you its rubbish?

Thats far from the Truth, Its luciferian worship. Its a secret society, the higher up you go, the more secretive. 6.6 million to oaths not to divulge the secrets or else. Don't join its not of Christ.

 

[NightShadow]

Thats far from the Truth, Its luciferian worship. Its a secret society, the higher up you go, the more secretive. 6.6 million to oaths not to divulge the secrets or else. Don't join its not of Christ.

If its a secret society why are they very visible in the public eye with fund raisers, hospitals, childrens care clinics, and having bummer stickers on their cars? If its luciferian worship why is it that its members are Pastors, Presidents, the Founding Fathers of the US? You can't honestly tell me that out of 6.6 milloin oaths not to divulge a secrets is a reason why haven't more people come public with this? I have done a great deal of research in to freemasonry I haven't yet found anything as to what has been claimed. I have copies of everything too froma very trusted source. It seems to be that only people who think masonry is a religion and satanic are the ones who are againest it. If this is not for Christians neither is your local PTA since prayer isn't allowed or the lions club.

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[miktre]

read morals and dogma by albert pike and educate yourself

 

[NightShadow]

read morals and dogma by albert pike and educate yourself

I have read morals and dogma, and I have yet found anyone that can make sense of it. Albert Pike is just one mason who has no writing ablities what so ever. Again I fail to see what you claim it to be.

 

[miktre]

Your friend must be low on the totem pole. My brother married into a family of former Freemasons who have some strange stories to tell.

People can only tell so many stories and it not to have truth to it. Hundreds of Christian websites spanning all denominations warning of the ritualistic oddities concerning freemasonry cant be because they have nothing better to do. As for the PTA hmmm, it doesnt surprise me the way the schools have problems these days. I would advise if it were possibly to put your children in a Christian school or home school.

 

[NightShadow]

You right so many can tell stories and have no truth to it. Thats what I like to do. Take something and find the truth. Debunk it, or find evidence to support it. I have all 33rd degree of Scottish Rite freemasonry 12 degree of the York Rite, given to be by someone who is a 33 degree freemason. I have talk to both freemasons and anti-freemasons alike. I have found that anti-freemason claims are usually taken from morals and dogma which is just one masonic writer. That is like judgeing Christianity from one book written by some preacher. Not to mention no one understands Morals and Dogma. I have taken denominations warning againest masonry why they warn againest it and haven't found anything but pushing what they believe, not what is factual true. All they state is its evil, its not Christ like. These are also the same arguements to be made of anything but that doctrine. By the way I'm Southern Baptist and the SBC is againest masonry. I used SBC as one of my denominations againest freemasonry to base research off of. I found that one of the founders of an anti-masonic group was kick out of the masons, and nother one not allowed to join both because they had criminal backgrounds which is againest masonic bylaws.

I have also found that freemason gives each member a Bible and at the Knight Templar degree (highest degree in york rite) swear an oath to defend the Christian faith. What masons will tell me and what I have match up, and I never tell them what I have. I ask question from anti-masonic statements. They have no secrets. That is their best secret. I know serveral local clergy who are freemasons and I have spoke to them about it. I had one who was a Methodist Pastor answer my question "How do you answer people who ask you about your membership in the lodge." He answers "I don't see how you can be a pastor and not be a mason." another was a Baptist Preacher told me that only people who make freemasonry a religion are the ones who are againest it. I have done this for a long time try to find some type of proof to these claims that you have made. I have books like you wouldn't believe and copies of all rituals. Its nothing more then a bunch of old men getting out of the house. I went in to this a long time ago thinking that I'll find what has been posted here, I have everything but what is stated here. I have a copy of a 32nd Degree events schedule for a weekend reunion from 1972. The event was for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. On Sunday morning they had schdule in 8 - 1 for church and worship services in the . It does say information reguarding local churches will be at the information desk. This goes on and on. Do you honestly think a church of satanic worship would alot time for its members for church services especially for a 32nd degree?

You won't see any of that on the God Channel. The reason why I went to such great length and took so much time to look in to it. Its because I kept hearing Christians claim how evil it was but yet nothing match up.

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[miktre]

Wow to hear you tell it I'm surprised Christ wasnt a freemason. I think not. Seek Truth, only the higher up more shall be revealed. I've watched acual filmed ceromonies and its alittle more than old men drinkin coffee. The freemason initiation ritual alone should be setting the alarms off for a well versed Christian. They mix and twist the Word. Why would you call a lodge leader "worshipful master"? What you are doing is constituting a lie straight from satan.

 

[shovelmaster]

I think after we Free the Masons. We should focus on Freeing Tibet.

 

[NightShadow]

Thats breathing something in to nothing. The Worshipful Master is just a name for the President of the lodge. Masonry has its own vocab. Do you believe that someone who holds a title of a nation as King or Lord Namealot is also under the spell of satan?

"What you are doing is constituting a lie straight from satan."
WOW! I have done nothing but state facts that I have found since my freshman year of school. If you have nothing more to say then a personal insult me then we have reach the end of this debate.

 

[imoss]

I agree with Mahogony Snail, its very much satanic. If you search thru the web using the words "freemasonry" and "occult" you find plenty of material. The sad part is it brings on generational curses so even if you were never involved, freemasonry cud still have a negative impact on your life. Never get involved with freemasonry or any of it's other organizations.

how do u break a generational curse? Is it possible?

 

[SweetiefromPA]

OK here goes. If you look at the symbol that the freemasons use, its the pentagram. Its the start satanists wear. If you look at the other symbol and ocnnect the lines, you will notice that it also forms a pentagram. Many men who are in the freemasons are "christians" but they are blind to see what is really going on. I have 2 friends who fathers were masons, both men have shot and killed themselves. One man shot himself outside his home when his family was home because the lodge he belonged to wouldn't let him out of the masons. There was stuff that he was finally starting to realize but they woulodn't let him out. He got suicidal and finally took his own life. The second man did the same. But instead of just killing himself he shot another man as well because he thought the man and his wife were having an affair which was not true. Leter we found out he was also trying to get out of his lodge. Do a search on the net. I never had anything against the freemasons. It used to be a society for men to join if they were masons by occupation. But over the years, it's turned into something thats probably not as good as some think it is. Ya they can raise money for hospitals and do good for others, but when you look deep into what goes on and watch documentaries and stuff, there is stuff there that is NOT RIGHT! But men are blinded by the world.