So what about the fourth commandment?

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it would be better if you took time to study the text you quoted ... in the Hebrew language it does not say to kill a sorceress but rather that they not be permitted to make a living...
Thank you for this insight!
 

Dan_473

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it's there if you want to look.
hang gliding isn't in the scriptures...

any rule about it would be man-made, or an interpretation.

I'm sure you know that, and I believe you're being evasive.
 
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hang gliding isn't in the scriptures...
I can't believe this is even under discussion in a Christian forum. Christians believe that God made man in his image, including man's mind, and man's mind has contrived a way to safely emulate the flight of birds. They jump off Poo Poo Point here in King County, Washington, and if there is a God, then he's gotta be smiling.

 

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The problem I see is many who argue against the Sabbath do so like a pharisee. Imposing rules that are not there. They take the scripture and interpret it making it legalistic. while they themselves do not lift a finger in that direction they impose harsh rules that they think are bible based on those who suggest it should be kept.

Its weird to say the least that people who think themselves free would impose legalism on those who honour Jesus.

Agree, this feels very ''religious'' in nature when people do this.
 

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it would be better if you took time to study the text you quoted ... in the Hebrew language it does not say to kill a sorceress but rather that they not be permitted to make a living... sometimes study into the original language can shed light on a given verse. and also it needs to be noted that in those days and times they were living under a theocracy (God was king) however it is not so now, we must live peaceably among all men where it be possible , even in our
Saviors time the jewish leaders were limited by the roman authority so this claim and the logic behind it is flawed in its nature and content
It appears to be ambiguous

"allow to live not a sorceress"

Exodus 22:18 Interlinear: 'A witch thou dost not keep alive.

Jewish people have their Talmud and Traditions... for us today, we just figure out for ourselves what God meant.
 

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I can't believe this is even under discussion in a Christian forum. Christians believe that God made man in his image, including man's mind, and man's mind has contrived a way to safely emulate the flight of birds. They jump off Poo Poo Point here in King County, Washington, and if there is a God, then he's gotta be smiling.

Looks great! and if God is smiling, then it's an acceptable activity any day of the week.
 
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hang gliding isn't in the scriptures...

any rule about it would be man-made, or an interpretation.

I'm sure you know that, and I believe you're being evasive.
Ok, hypothetical question.
If you went hang-gliding on the Sabbath and everything went well,
What else would you do that day, to honor that day above the other 6?
 

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Ok, hypothetical question.
If you went hang-gliding on the Sabbath and everything went well,
What else would you do that day, to honor that day above the other 6?

I'd say Thank you Lord for this Sabbath day!
 
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That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:15 (KJV, MBM)
 

Dan_473

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'cuz 17 God didn't send the Son into the world to be critical of the world, but so that He could save the world.
 
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Some good teachings at this ministry...

[video=youtube;C2oCoFAzOqQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oCoFAzOqQ[/video]
 
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Some good teachings at this ministry...

[video=youtube;C2oCoFAzOqQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oCoFAzOqQ[/video]

Put out by a non-Christian cult, the United Church of God. An offshoot of Herbert W Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of God.

https://carm.org/ucog
 
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prove-all

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Put out by a non-Christian cult
so what makes them non christian? for following Gods Sabbath?

and what about the biggest and oldest cult there is, the cathlic church?
 
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only God can decide. we know this.
I am not here to debate hang gliding, but you can't let it be up to each person.

each one will do what is right in his own eyes. historically, this doesn't end well.

How does the historical refomation end up? Did the shadow that represented Christ our eternal rest come,as that will come to fruitation in our new incorruptible bodies that will be neither Jew nor Gentile.Are we still waiting for him to appear the first time, like the unconverted Jew. The veil was rent signifying he did come. Why would you want to judge someone in respect to ceremonial Sabbath days when the scriptures inform us of the opposite? Whats your hope in doing so?Are you hoping it will make your conscience perfect?

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure "for the time then present", in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.Heb 9:9
 

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Then that says much about yourself and your understanding of Christianity.
I understand the bible quite well,
the n.t. warns of the church being decieved from within back then.

Jesus himself said many would come in his name, allready in the world,
and then Rome makes Christ- ianity doctrine.

so lets look at the first thing this church does wrong by your understanding.
Practices: Worship on Saturday[Gods Sabbath]

you can search from the first book, to the last book of the bible,
and find not one verse that changes the Sabbath day to sunday worship.

Roman cathlic church admits they had no bible authority to change the day
 
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so what makes them non christian? for following Gods Sabbath?

and what about the biggest and oldest cult there is, the cathlic church?
[video]https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=26uln0y8#/watch?v=O27_v__2NBA[/video]