What Do You Have to Lose?

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Political events give "critical" clues concerning Biblical end time events and today's events surely gives big clues. Donald Trump recently said to African Americans, who are the lost Jews of the Bible, "What do you have to lose?" If one was not spiritual then one must have to agree with him. They have been so down trodden for so many years one would think their hopeless, but this is when God will show his greatness. Obama promised to save them from their problems but never did.... Bill Clinton etc etc and now Hillary and Donald Trump is promising to do so.

[video=youtube;t-jasg-_E5M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jasg-_E5M[/video]

These politicians promise the children of lies, but only use them for spoil(votes, wealth, etc), the scriptures state in Isaiah 42:22"But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses ( America's prison system is filled with the men of Israel, highest rate in the world) : they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore." But what people must realize is that Donald nor Hillary will save God's people but the Most High and Christ alone. For he will send his angels across the four corners to gather his people before the dreadful day of WW3 so they may be spared and not suffer the judgement of the nations. But this is a message to all my fellow Christians, pay attention to these events for they all tell the coming of Christ.
 
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Clues schmooze. Keep your eyes focused on God.
 
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That is true, but when people begin to involve God in many everyday activities, such as even watching TV. Many things can be revealed and plus the person's mind is still on God. Also the fact that politicians see African Americans (Jews) with nothing to loose, it just reminds me of Egypt when Israel seemed at a place of no hope. Chariots behind them and no place of protection ahead of them, one could only think "this is a doomed people there is no hope, the chariots will trample them where they stand". But no, God stepped in one it almost seemed like no hope was left, then delivered his people. I feel the "2nd" deliverance of his people is very near for an similar scenario is taking place.
 
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Can you explain a bit more clearly why you think Blacks are today's Jews?
 

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African Americans, who are the lost Jews of the Bible
No they are not the lost Jews of the Bible..
 
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I'm so confused!!!!!! How the heck?....
 

tanakh

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The only Black Jews I know about that could have been considered ''lost'' were those in Ethiopia that Israel made citizens.
The notion that all Black people are Jews stems from Rastafarianism which is not Christian.
 
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Interesting quote from Gamal Abdel Nasser, the 2nd President of Egypt

George Friedmann in his book, The End of the Jewish People, pointedly states that the Europeans claiming to be Jews, are nothing more then "Hebrew speaking Gentiles." The late president of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, stated on television, "you (the Jews) will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black but came back white. We cannot except you!
 
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Hi Willie thanks for actually asking why I think this is so instead of just shouting, "you're a liar!". First off Willie, the scriptures states at the coming of Christ and regathering of Israel, that this will be an end time event which is to come. When you hear the powerful of "this world" speak such as Donald Trump, concerning these people, they speak of them as seeming hopeless, which the Bible said will be so. When God delivered Israel the "1st" time from the land of captivity of Egypt, God gave "strict" warnings to be aware of in Deuteronomy 28. He said if you obey Me these are the blessings that will follow, if you disobey these are the curses and sadly, Israel disobeyed. So now I will show you who the curses fell upon, to identify Israel. In Deuteronomy 28 I will show just a few, Deuteronomy 28:32"Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand." This curse was prominent in the land of America, which is Great Babylon, where the slaves of Israel had the child snatched from the mother's arm and was sold separately thus bringing much sorrow. 28:43"The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low." The Bible said the stranger that is within thee meaning foreigners or gentiles shall ascend very high above Israel and that Israel its self will be very low, and the politicians are admitting to the world that they are a people so low and broken, they ask "what do you have to lose?" but again, this is all for God's glory. When you see the "Mighty" saying such things, the Mightiest of Mighty which is the Most High and Christ shall then come and say "It is I which will save and not man". Just read the whole Deuteronomy 28 to truly know who Israel, the whole Bible lets you know. The world which is ruled by Satan has lied to you and me, so its no wonder many people do not know these things, so I do not blame you. But the main chapter I suggest for you to read Deuteronomy 28, the whole Bible reveals this but that is a great place to start. Again man will not be the savior of Israel which Donald promises and Hillary, though much power is in their hand, but God is allowing all of this. To show that both of them are nothing before God's powers, a piece a cloth from the garment of Christ alone holds more weight than both of them combined. God will gather and save Israel, not man. Hope this helped a bit, but again I will answer any more questions if needed. Also Israel is not only in America but the four corners such as Caribbean Islands, but a remnant even lies in the far East Isaiah 24:15"Then it will happen on that day that the Lord Will again recover the second time with His hand The remnant of His people, who will remain, From Assyria, Egypt, Pathros, Cush, Elam, Shinar, Hamath, And from the islands of the sea (Caribbeans)."
 
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Hello Tanakh and God bless, let me just make it clear that the Ethiopians are "NOT" Jews but converts and also the people who brought them there. Just because the Ethiopians are dark in color does not make them Jews, not all black people are the same. Black is a color not nationality. Ethiopians are Ethiopians, Jews are Jews, Egyptians are Egyptians, Persians are Persians all dark nations of people but of different nationalities. The people in Israel today are not Jews, im a just be honest. They are part of the people of Joel 3:2 who will feel the wrath and indignation of God's which is the day of Armageddon,for dividing God's land, and they are also the people of Ezekiel 35 which is Edom. But if you need answers on anything else I will gladly answer.
 
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Why would someone think the lost tribes of Israel would be African Americans,or Europeans,and I do not understand down trodden,when before America a lot of people had it way worse in the way they were treated by other people.

I look at it as arrogance,and worldly,for that is the way the world operates,and people trying to exalt their race,or ethnic group,or is it a misinterpretation of scriptures,but some misinterpret scripture,because that is the way they want to see it.

The truth is all nations,races,and ethnic groups push for power,but if they do not have the power,they say the ones that do are cruel,or unjust,but if they had the power they would push it too,so I do not look at anybody as more cruel than anybody else,for they all push for power.

The Roman Empire has the dominion until Jesus puts down the beast kingdom,which is probably because they were the last ones to get the power in that area,so they could hold unto it longer,because once the others got knocked down,they could not rise again,but they were all pushing for power in that area.

But people want to point the finger at other nations,or races,as if they are cruel,and unjust,above other people,but their people push for power the same,but if they do not have it,then the ones that do are the bad guy,but they all push for power.

So who are the true Jews,or the lost tribes,which I do not believe they are African Americans,or Europeans,but those that are in Israel at this time.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

God said He is going to bring back the captivity of Jacob,the whole house of Israel,that means all twelve tribes,and bring them out of the nations,and bring them back to the land of Israel,and eventually they will come to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,by way of 2 witnesses God sends them,and then they will know God from that day,and forward.

So the people that are in Israel would be the true Jews,which I do not see Europeans,or African Americans,packing their bags,and going to Israel,which only the true Jews would go back there,for it is decreed by God.

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Joe 3:3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.
Joe 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

Joe 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Joe 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Joe 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
Joe 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
Joe 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

Also God said it is the Palestinians that are bothering His people,so He will put it back on their own head,and God says gather the world together,and lets go to war,in which what decision will people make in that day,which side will they choose,Israel,or the world.

But I do not see the Palestinians bothering the Europeans,or the African Americans.

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

The whole earth will be gathered together against Israel,but is the world concerned with the Europeans,or African Americans,for it seems like they are more concerned with peace in the Middle East,and they attack Israel because God turned them to Jesus,and the world went to the belief of no personal God.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Here we see that Israel is blinded in part,which means as a nation they do not accept Jesus as their Messiah,until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,when they take the mark.

But Europeans,and African Americans,accept Jesus,they are not blinded in part,but the people in Israel,the true Jews,are blinded in part,because they do not as a nation accept Jesus as their Messiah,which the Europeans,and African Americans,are Gentiles,and shed that arrogance to think that you are something you are not,which arrogance can blind us,which Paul was given a thorn in the flesh,so he would not get arrogant.

Jer 33:19 And the word of the LORD came unto Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 33:20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
Jer 33:21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
Jer 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
Jer 33:23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 33:24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
Jer 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Jer 33:26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

Jer 33:23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,
Jer 33:24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
Jer 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Jer 33:26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.

God's covenant is still with Israel,and He has not cast away His people.

If people think they are not the true Jews,that are in Israel,for whatever reason,disobedience does not mean they are not the true Jews,for that does not break God's covenant with them,and they are blinded in part,until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,which is when the world takes the mark at the beast kingdom.

The Europeans,and the African Americans,do not fit the mold of the people that are called Jew,and the nation of Israel,in the Bible,and there is more that can attest to this,but this will do.

I will not be convinced that Europeans,or African Americans,are the true Jews,for the true Jews would be heading for Israel,and the ones that are there,for it is decreed by God,and cannot be thwarted.
 
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Before Christ died Israel denied Christ and had Christ put to death, so you think the Most High gone put Israel back in the land, with the same mindset? God forbid, that is blasphemy. Just think about what you are actually saying here Christ came for Israel as a savior and also the world, Israel denied him in their folly. Israel was then cast out and God said until they learn from their errors and turn to Christ then will he will again bring back his people. The people in Israel deny Christ so what are you getting at? Are you saying there is an error in scriptures? God forbid, your confusion leads you astray.Rome is not gone, it is still here but its empire is just more wide spread it is the deadly wound which healed. Ever heard of the Treaty of Rome in 1957?If we know the Romans are still here and in full power, what in the world would make you think they again wont search for and destroy Israel? What people were enslaved not a few years before the treaty of Rome and inhumanely treated by them? African Americans. Your confusion is partly not your fault for Satan deceived the whole world with lies, so people like me are here to help clean it up. The people in Israel today are being funded by Rome/America, does that make sense to you? When has Rome been merciful to their enemies ESPECIALLY Israel? No offense just common sense thinking can reveal the truth sometimes.
 
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Yes I also found this interesting, it seems a lot of leaders actually know who the Jews are. The general public has been duped and so is deceived as to who they are.
 
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Hi Willie thanks for actually asking why I think this is so instead of just shouting, "you're a liar!". First off Willie, the scriptures states at the coming of Christ and regathering of Israel, that this will be an end time event which is to come. When you hear the powerful of "this world" speak such as Donald Trump, concerning these people, they speak of them as seeming hopeless, which the Bible said will be so. When God delivered Israel the "1st" time from the land of captivity of Egypt, God gave "strict" warnings to be aware of in Deuteronomy 28. He said if you obey Me these are the blessings that will follow, if you disobey these are the curses and sadly, Israel disobeyed. So now I will show you who the curses fell upon, to identify Israel. In Deuteronomy 28 I will show just a few, Deuteronomy 28:32"Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand." This curse was prominent in the land of America, which is Great Babylon, where the slaves of Israel had the child snatched from the mother's arm and was sold separately thus bringing much sorrow. 28:43"The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low." The Bible said the stranger that is within thee meaning foreigners or gentiles shall ascend very high above Israel and that Israel its self will be very low, and the politicians are admitting to the world that they are a people so low and broken, they ask "what do you have to lose?" but again, this is all for God's glory. When you see the "Mighty" saying such things, the Mightiest of Mighty which is the Most High and Christ shall then come and say "It is I which will save and not man". Just read the whole Deuteronomy 28 to truly know who Israel, the whole Bible lets you know. The world which is ruled by Satan has lied to you and me, so its no wonder many people do not know these things, so I do not blame you. But the main chapter I suggest for you to read Deuteronomy 28, the whole Bible reveals this but that is a great place to start. Again man will not be the savior of Israel which Donald promises and Hillary, though much power is in their hand, but God is allowing all of this. To show that both of them are nothing before God's powers, a piece a cloth from the garment of Christ alone holds more weight than both of them combined. God will gather and save Israel, not man. Hope this helped a bit, but again I will answer any more questions if needed. Also Israel is not only in America but the four corners such as Caribbean Islands, but a remnant even lies in the far East Isaiah 24:15"Then it will happen on that day that the Lord Will again recover the second time with His hand The remnant of His people, who will remain, From Assyria, Egypt, Pathros, Cush, Elam, Shinar, Hamath, And from the islands of the sea (Caribbeans)."
This is very interesting. And I see a lot of what you are saying. I don't know as I see them as the remnant, but I have long believed that there has been a special spirit assigned to the entire Negroid race that has somehow repressed the majority of them at almost every turn, all down through history.
 
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ResistLies had another thread,but it is gone.Can we delete a thread after it is up for more than a day,or did the moderators get rid of it.

If ResistLies got rid of it there must have been something said that was damaging to his beliefs.