The VP Debate - anyone watch it?

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LaurenTM

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there is no antacid strong enough for me to endure the lies of the dems
 
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KimPetras

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Um,you compare a pervert with what all Americans do.


All American's aren't running for president of the United States. Every candidate has released them prior to the election. I don't care what the average American is doing, I care about the candidate asking for my vote.

Under your example,I as a small business owner,am a pervert for keeping as much money as the law allows.


I didn't compare "paying the least amount of taxes" to "taking pictures of preteens." I compared that two things can be legal in accordance to the law but not necessarily acceptable in the court of opinion. You created a straw man. :(


I am doing my taxes now,and have had 2 meetings with professionals,and 4 meetings with semi professionals to do what trump and All AMERICANS do. Pay as little as the law allows.

My return for a mom and pop small business is 6 pages long.

What is trump's? 6 inches thick?

I'm all for Trump paying what he is obligated to pay in taxes. If he paid 1 dollar or 100 million dollars, that is irrelevant. Ignore the straw man you created and focus on the fact he isn't releasing his taxes.

It's like when Hillary's henchmen took the 5th amendment... sure, they are exercising their rights as Americans, but it doesn't make me think they are innocent when considering the facts we do know. There is no transparency with Hillary or with Trump.


Btw,he is audited every year.
I know, it's because he is such a strong Christian.
 
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KimPetras

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I doubt anyone here would be defending Hillary Clinton if she refused to disclose her taxes but Donald released them. Why would you?
 
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LaurenTM

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I doubt anyone here would be defending Hillary Clinton if she refused to disclose her taxes but Donald released them. Why would you?

about that Clinton foundation.....

money from foreign countries

pay for play

yeah

emails

men who suddenly become the target of unknown assassins at inappropriate times

Benghazi

lies, lies, lies and double standards

broke when they left the White House...I mean what's millions to a gal like Hillary, right?

I don't see people defending Trump as much as I see you trying to get them to bite your baiting LOL!
 
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KimPetras

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about that Clinton foundation.....

money from foreign countries

pay for play

yeah

emails

men who suddenly become the target of unknown assassins at inappropriate times

Benghazi

lies, lies, lies and double standards

broke when they left the White House...I mean what's millions to a gal like Hillary, right?

I don't see people defending Trump as much as I see you trying to get them to bite your baiting LOL!
It's baiting to discuss politics and personal beliefs/opinions in a Christian forum? :confused:

By your own standard you just "baited" Hillary Clinton... I don't see it as baiting, I see it as you speaking the truth about Hillary, but when using the same formula for Trump, it's somehow "baiting"... lol
 
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about that Clinton foundation.....

money from foreign countries

pay for play

yeah

emails

men who suddenly become the target of unknown assassins at inappropriate times

Benghazi

lies, lies, lies and double standards

broke when they left the White House...I mean what's millions to a gal like Hillary, right?

I don't see people defending Trump as much as I see you trying to get them to bite your baiting LOL!
Is that the definition of deflection.
 
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KimPetras

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Is that the definition of deflection.
Yeah, she didn't even do a decent job at deflection though.

We went from talking about Trump not releasing taxes to how it's baiting to state facts and opinions when it's about Trump, but it's just truth telling when it's Hillary. At least Popeye tried to make a straw man (making it about paying as least as possible when I never had one criticism about how much he pays or doesn't pay).
 
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Ultimatum77

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I watched the whole debate and it was very good....I thought Pence kept his cool a lot more than Kaine and seemed more professional in his speech delivery then Kaine who seemed to get angry and visibly flushed especially when talking about the Clinton Foundations actual "charity" percentages...lol he bold face lied saying 90% go to those in need when the stats show that 10% go to the people who need it and the other 90% goes to the clinton tax evasion fund.....
 
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KimPetras

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I watched the whole debate and it was very good....I thought Pence kept his cool a lot more than Kaine and seemed more professional in his speech delivery then Kaine who seemed to get angry and visibly flushed especially when talking about the Clinton Foundations actual "charity" percentages...lol he bold face lied saying 90% go to those in need when the stats show that 10% go to the people who need it and the other 90% goes to the clinton tax evasion fund.....
There was one moment where I thought Kaine was going to bust a vein in his forehead because Pence was able to shake off the Trump attacks. I think after he calmed down from that point, he did a decent job.

I don't know how some people think Pence did terrible... He was the clear cut winner.
 
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LaurenTM

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It's baiting to discuss politics and personal beliefs/opinions in a Christian forum? :confused:

By your own standard you just "baited" Hillary Clinton... I don't see it as baiting, I see it as you speaking the truth about Hillary, but when using the same formula for Trump, it's somehow "baiting"... lol

well, I see what you did here...that's all :)

is Hillary standing beside you reading what I wrote? LOL!

you sound a bit like her VP in the way you seem to want to deflect to Trump
 
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Um,you compare a pervert with what all Americans do.

Under your example,I as a small business owner,am a pervert for keeping as much money as the law allows.


I am doing my taxes now,and have had 2 meetings with professionals,and 4 meetings with semi professionals to do what trump and All AMERICANS do. Pay as little as the law allows.

My return for a mom and pop small business is 6 pages long.

What is trump's? 6 inches thick?

Btw,he is audited every year.
How do we know that Donald Trump Is eveing being audited?

Would It be too much for him to show the letter that says"your tax returns are being audited"?
 
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KimPetras

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well, I see what you did here...that's all :)

is Hillary standing beside you reading what I wrote? LOL!

you sound a bit like her VP in the way you seem to want to deflect to Trump
Hahaha, I don't think you really know what deflecting means...

I don't deflected any legitimate criticism on Hillary by pointing out something Trump has done/said. In fact, I join in on the Hillary truth-telling... the only difference is I don't have blinders on when it comes to Trump. I can freely criticize Trump in one breath, and Hillary in another.

So please do explain how I'm deflecting to Trump when you entered a discussion I was having with Seed_Time_Harvest about Trump's taxes... You responded to me about Trump's taxes by calling out random (although legitimate) issues with Hillary. THAT is deflection, and a terrible job at that. lol
 
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There was one moment where I thought Kaine was going to bust a vein in his forehead because Pence was able to shake off the Trump attacks. I think after he calmed down from that point, he did a decent job.

I don't know how some people think Pence did terrible... He was the clear cut winner.
I thought he was the clear cut winner on style,not the clear cut winner on the Issues.

He knew not to try and defend the Indefensible,so IMO he chunked Donald Trump under the bus.

Donald did the right thing by praising Mike Pence in public.
 
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LaurenTM

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Hahaha, I don't think you really know what deflecting means...

I don't deflected any legitimate criticism on Hillary by pointing out something Trump has done/said. In fact, I join in on the Hillary truth-telling... the only difference is I don't have blinders on when it comes to Trump. I can freely criticize Trump in one breath, and Hillary in another.

So please do explain how I'm deflecting to Trump when you entered a discussion I was having with Seed_Time_Harvest about Trump's taxes... You responded to me about Trump's taxes by calling out random (although legitimate) issues with Hillary. THAT is deflection, and a terrible job at that. lol

yeah that must be it

I don't know

:rolleyes:

you made this thread about Trump...it was supposed to be about the debate last night

yeah

you would be the expert on deflection for sure

I'm aware of your style of posting

so no worries, I will leave you to it...:eek:
 
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KimPetras

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How do we know that Donald Trump Is eveing being audited?

Would It be too much for him to show the letter that says"your tax returns are being audited"?
The fanatics will argue that Trump is well within his rights to not disclose any information. They are correct in that he's not obligated. They are incorrect in pretending it doesn't mean anything if he does/doesn't.
 

hornetguy

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How do we know that Donald Trump Is eveing being audited?

Would It be too much for him to show the letter that says"your tax returns are being audited"?
Yes, it would be.

If he took the time to "prove" every allegation against him, there would be no time for discussion of important things....

Then he would be criticized for NOT discussing the important things...

Of course, he could just plead the Hillary.... I mean, the fifth.... or do like Hillary.... "I have no recollection of that...."
 
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KimPetras

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The VP Debate - anyone watch it?

I saw most of it. Kaine wouldn't shut up for more than 2 seconds the whole time.. and Pence's mic wasn't as loud as Kaine's... was that just an innocent little oversight by the sound department?? :rolleyes:

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yeah that must be it

I don't know

:rolleyes:

you made this thread about Trump...it was supposed to be about the debate last night

yeah

you would be the expert on deflection for sure

I'm aware of your style of posting

so no worries, I will leave you to it...:eek:
1.) I didn't make this thread, zeroturbulence did. Your awareness of this thread is just as inaccurate as your definition of the term "deflection".

2.) Threads evolve from one topic and branch out to other subtopics. This is just as much news as water being wet or Hillary and Trump disliking transparency.

3.) You say I'm the expert at deflection but have yet to articulate one instance where I was deflecting anything... You respond to a comment I was having with Seed_Time_Harvest about Trump's taxes and say I'm deflecting to Trump... no, we were talking about his (Trump's) taxes... You were the one that brought up Hillary.

4.) You're aware of my style of posting? Okay... then you would know I call it like I see it with both candidates. You would know I don't bring up Trump's misconduct to excuse Hillary's misconduct (or vice versa like you do).
 
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yeah that must be it

I don't know

:rolleyes:

you made this thread about Trump...it was supposed to be about the debate last night

yeah

you would be the expert on deflection for sure

I'm aware of your style of posting

so no worries, I will leave you to it...:eek:
Don't go away mad......