Jesus was not for families

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miknik5

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Forgive me for not reading your post.
But what again is "pure religion" before GOD for those who were purchased at a dear and costly price?
 

miknik5

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And if you can't make a right judgement between what pleases and does not please GOD do not attribute it to anything but a fault in yourself
 
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1LonelyKnight

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The SDA has lots of good things to share. Going past 1844 we are still in a judgment and cleansing era / age. We are two generations til a new era. What 'day' are we in, in this 1,000 year day schema? Let our rest be in and from the Lord Jesus' call to repent and be born from above. There is so much to share that the explanation of Sabbath cannot become a fixation. Neither the focus on the prophetic at the expense of the gospel. The gospel is still to be preached on the Sabbath - being constant, in season and out.
 

miknik5

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The SDA has lots of good things to share. Going past 1844 we are still in a judgment and cleansing era / age. We are two generations til a new era. What 'day' are we in, in this 1,000 year day schema? Let our rest be in and from the Lord Jesus' call to repent and be born from above. There is so much to share that the explanation of Sabbath cannot become a fixation. Neither the focus on the prophetic at the expense of the gospel. The gospel is still to be preached on the Sabbath - being constant, in season and out.
Well....I'll be!
 

posthuman

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Why would He do away with it at the cross, only to reinstate it again in the new earth? (Isaiah 66:23).
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Isaiah 66:23 is not in any way at all showing that ritual sabbath and new moon celebration observance will take place in the everafter.

From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD.​

if anything this is signifying exactly the opposite:
all men will come and bow before the Almighty - in opposition to the times of the temple and the sacrifices and the law of the old covenant with the ethnic Jew, when only Jews, and only ceremonially clean ones, could come to Him and bow before Him. in fact: only the high priest could actually come before Him into His presence, and only once per year after very strict ceremonially purification.
and all men will come before Him every day - not as it was under the old covenant of shadows, just on certain days, during certain feasts and for certain times. for all times: from one new moon to another, from the first of the month to the first of the next month. sunday through saturday and the next week too, forever around the throne.

this scripture says almost exactly the opposite of what you are trying to teach that it says.

there will be no night there - so just how do you think you are going to reckon days, to count to a seventh one, after forever?
if there is no more Jew nor Greek nor male nor female in Christ, do you really think there is going to be a Jewish quarter in the holy city that comes down from heaven?? we are that holy city!!
 

miknik5

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Is to fulfill justice, to destroy the law?
Jesus’ mission was to fulfill the requirement of God’s eternal government’s justice,
albeit tempered with mercy; by paying the wages of sin- the penalty of death for sinners.
When the wage is paid, the law remains.
Then, in glorified bodies, in more perfect knowledge, in the absence of corruption,
having saved those tried and tested, God’s plan succeeds in destroying sin for all
eternity. Destroying not the law, nor the mission to destroy the prophets, nor destroy justice,
just to fulfill the law and save.
To fulfill justice is not to destroy the law.
+conclusive
Would you say GOD's WILL/WORK and PLAN are clearly revealed in JESUS?
Would you say that GOD required all men to look to and believe in HIS SON and that HE will raise us up on the last day
 
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1LonelyKnight

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Familial love is not a part of the scripture because in all things we want to avoid a familiar spirit. Jesus tells us our enemies will be of our houseold. He tells us ...

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake,Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.
Jesus said to let the dead ( in spirit) bury the (physically) dead.

The idea, principle or precept is that our first love is to be to the gospel. In this way our attention and sometimes fixation with the familiar and worldly will be shifted from a few persons or things, to all persons and things. This is Holistic in the call to be Holy.

Why get caught up with a mother in law, when there are so many women to minister to that they have all sold out to a preacher or TV or Media or ffootbaal or some other worldly head. As has been said here, there are many, many women on this site who take their advice and guidance from at least five other men on this site ...
 

posthuman

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Familial love is not a part of the scripture

is that what SDA teaches?

what about:

Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
(1 Timothy 5:8)

?
 

miknik5

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Familial love is not a part of the scripture because in all things we want to avoid a familiar spirit. Jesus tells us our enemies will be of our houseold. He tells us ...







Jesus said to let the dead ( in spirit) bury the (physically) dead.

The idea, principle or precept is that our first love is to be to the gospel. In this way our attention and sometimes fixation with the familiar and worldly will be shifted from a few persons or things, to all persons and things. This is Holistic in the call to be Holy.

Why get caught up with a mother in law, when there are so many women to minister to that they have all sold out to a preacher or TV or Media or ffootbaal or some other worldly head. As has been said here, there are many, many women on this site who take their advice and guidance from at least five other men on this site ...
You are still responsible to pray for your family and trust that what you have entrusted to HIM HE is keeping for the day

be like Job and pray for your family
 

miknik5

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Yes see what Posthuman said
if you know the good you should do and you do not do it you sin
abd if you claim yourself to be so spiritual but do not do naturally what you are capable and responsible to do how can you say you are so spiritual
 

miknik5

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Do not hate anyone. Do not uproot anything. Do not harbor bitterness. Do not avenge. Do not rain fire or condemn antone

love one another and leave all men to GOD who justifies
Do not rise above the seat of GOD's judgement and take matters into your own hands if it goes against the TRUTH and is a misrepresentation of THE SPRIT who we claim to belong to
 

posthuman

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whoever finds a wife finds a good thing?

children are an heritage from the Lord
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whoever curses his father and mother must be put to death
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y'all do know those things are in the scripture, right?

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it is one thing to put the the Lord above ones own flesh and blood - but another to forsake them altogether and refuse to love and honor them. when Christ said whoever does not hate his father and mother is not worthy to follow Him, did He mean we should detest our kin and treat them with contempt? or did He mean that we must love God first, before all else?

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in fact - we must love Him with our whole heart and mind and strength.
the man who says "
i will give my wife all my love" loves her less than the man who gives all his love to God.
wait what how? why?
because submitting ourselves fully to God does not drain us, but instead fills us with a love that overflows from us and pours out, being expressed to all others. a love that is not of ourselves, but from God - a greater love than any human can show alone.




 
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1LonelyKnight

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is that what SDA teaches?

what about:

Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
(1 Timothy 5:8)

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I'm not SDA but was replying to an earlier SDA post. As to familial love, the essence of the post is about our first love - the gospel. The keywords about FOCUS and FIXATION distinguish between a proper attending to the physical family and the larger duty to the church family. The business of manipulating and controlling families via the woman is left to the head shrinks like James Dobson, the evangelicals like Tony Perkins, the preachers and the five guys on the internet whom wives seek to get guidance from. The gospel first as a larger family of man, the gospel again - applied to one aspect of the church - the individual family. So it is a matter of context and priority, not the exclusion of one teaching over another.
 
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Good

I'm good
Everything's good
It's good to go
It's a good day to die
The weather's good
Have a good day
He's a good man
He's a good dad
She's no good
He's no good
You better be good or else
You're a good boy
You're a good girl
She's a good wife
That look's good
That's a good look
You look good
Good going
That ain't no good
You good for nothing (lol)
You ain't no good
Good, now
G'day
Good morning
Goodnight
Goodness me
Oh my goodness
God is good
It feels so good
Nah, I'm good
Good, now die
I was out on good behavior
You think your so good
I'd like to get him good
I'd like to get her good
Good god!
Thats was a good movie
Ahhh, it's no good
The Jefferson's are not good people
How do I be good
Was that a good thing
I'm not good enough
If you're saying that Jesus was against families, I don't agree with you. I think he was telling us that our bond with fellow believers should be stronger than our bond with our families.
 
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No no, that's just title.

I tried to make it interesting, and thought provoking.

I'm not trying to troll you.
Title, or no, it was part of your statement. But then, I didn't suggest that you were trying to troll us.
 
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I cannot tell if you simply are not the best at explaining what trying to say or just messing around but I would have to disagree he very much was and is for family he taught to respect our mothers and fathers he taught us to be respectful and to care for each other and he also taught that blood doesn't always make a family.

He reveres his father very highly he always spoke of father always gave the honor and glory and credit to him so I think he is very for family
Families only exist due to the fall.
 
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This leaves room for outliers, or others who are not "over protective of their families."
If people are lonely, or think they will benefit from joining another person or group, then some, at the very least, will try.
This is how communities are formed: find a common goal to fulfill a need (or want).

The community as God intends it includes Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Goodness, Kindness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-Control. Of course, these are born of the Spirit of God. If people are mocking God and continue to sin, then God allows the consequence of sin to reign in a community. For whatever reason, He allows good to the wicked and harm to the faithful.
But a righteous community is grown by God, not the mere effort of humans.
No it's getting worse, I had to leave my family. Two whole families, there is something wrong with the family unit, that's become obvious.

It's easier to relate to the outcasts and streetys, for some reason they crave a relationship that they couldn't get from home.

It's why they are in their situation, this concept of family love they grow up with is false.
 
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If I have in any way been too presumptuous in somehow implying or assuming that this is your first time reading the WORD OF GOD , I am sorry

I realize that you might just be returning to HIS WORD anew

In either case I pray that GOD may open the "eyes and ears of your heart" that you may hear HIS VOICE and feel the comfort of HIS PRESENCE
It's not how well you know the bible, it's "Did you receive the message."