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rdbseekingafterhim

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I am the victim if domestic abuse. My wife is relentless, but I am torn. I want the abuse to end. The only way for that to happen is to leave her or divorce her. The only issue is if I do I can never remarry. Which means I must forever remain single. That would be very hard for me to do. I don't want to commit a sin by divorcing her or remarrying again if I do divorce her. It seems like to me certain exceptions should be made. However, God despises divorce. Yet He allows suffering to happen in marriages. I don't get it.
 

breno785au

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I'm sorry to hear that mate, I'm not one to give advice on such issues except separation and marriage and individual personal councelling.
 
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Amazing-Grace

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Don't be embarrassed but insist you go to Christian counselling together. If your wife does not know Christ she needs to find Him who will change her heart.
 
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Sorry to hear about your marriage problems. Try to not be embarrassed there are many cases unfortunately where the wife is the abuser in the relationship. I hope your wife repents and seeks the lord.
 
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Sadly DV against men is on the increase, so your not alone. Here in the UK I am seeing more and more help groups, programmes and awareness to support men who are victims of DV. Firstly, let me say that God is just and our justice system will prosecute both male and female perpetrators. It is illegal and your wife is breaking the law. I know when I was married to a violent man he stopped the moment I told him if he ever laid a finger on me again I was going straight to the police. He knew I meant it and never hit me again. Interesting that after my marraige ended he started beating up his next partner. That told me he has control, he just didnt want to reap the consequences of his actions.As long as he could get away with it he would. So do not be afraid to speak out and challenge this head on. There are hundreds of scriptures that says do not fear. You will be amazed at just how quickly people will change their behaviour towards you the moment you do not walk in fear. Also, Jesus speaking about dicorvce said " a woman must not leave her husband BUT IF SHE DOES......" clearly given an option to leave when things get too bad. In todays society that would apply to both genders as back then he was speaking to their culture. It then says that after seperation you come back together but that can ONLY happen when your wife addresses her behaviour. What you may find is she gets even more angry that you have stepped up and address the issue that she doesnt want it restored. "if the unbelieving husband or wife wants to go let them go, they are not bound by such circumstances".......it doesnt matter if she SAYS shes a Christian, a life not submitted to Christ, allowing Christ to work through her issues in my understanding is just paying lip service. By their fruits you will know them. I pray God will strengthen you and give you the wisdom and direction you need in this. God bless.
 
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rdbseekingafterhim

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It seems as though I am an abuse magnet. Every relationship I ever had has had abuse in it. Plus my parents were abusive. I want to have a normal relationship. However, I feel because I have the desperate need to feel loved, accepted, and appreciated I tend to fall for any woman who shows me any affection. It's possible that in my haste to be with someone because I fear and dread the thought of being alone I attract women who love to abuse their men. Women who would treat their men right are most likely turned off because my desire to not be alone screams of desperation. I often wonder what is wrong with me. Sometimes I feel I am so ugly and unlovable. My self esteem is dangerously low and I feel I am not the least bit attractive looks wise or personality either. I am 6 foot 6 inches tall, super skinny practically skeletal, teeth messed up because of an accident, and a face only a mother could love. Plus I tend to suffer from pity parties, have bouts with extreme negative emotions to the point of feeling worthless and wondering why I should even go on, and thinking to myself no one in their right mind would want to date me. I mean look at me. I'm hideous and unlovable.

I know that God loves me and the negative mentality is the devil trying to destroy me. I am a severe broken mess. My thoughts are maybe I need to fix myself and if love is supposed to be in my future it will come if not learn to accept it and move on.
 
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It seems as though I am an abuse magnet. Every relationship I ever had has had abuse in it. Plus my parents were abusive. I want to have a normal relationship. However, I feel because I have the desperate need to feel loved, accepted, and appreciated I tend to fall for any woman who shows me any affection. It's possible that in my haste to be with someone because I fear and dread the thought of being alone I attract women who love to abuse their men. Women who would treat their men right are most likely turned off because my desire to not be alone screams of desperation. I often wonder what is wrong with me. Sometimes I feel I am so ugly and unlovable. My self esteem is dangerously low and I feel I am not the least bit attractive looks wise or personality either. I am 6 foot 6 inches tall, super skinny practically skeletal, teeth messed up because of an accident, and a face only a mother could love. Plus I tend to suffer from pity parties, have bouts with extreme negative emotions to the point of feeling worthless and wondering why I should even go on, and thinking to myself no one in their right mind would want to date me. I mean look at me. I'm hideous and unlovable.

I know that God loves me and the negative mentality is the devil trying to destroy me. I am a severe broken mess. My thoughts are maybe I need to fix myself and if love is supposed to be in my future it will come if not learn to accept it and move on.
Your last paragraph was the only one that rings truth to me, you are right it IS the enemy who tells us we are worthless and unworthy to be a child of God. The way I read it is simple, because of the abuse you think there is a problem with the way you look - a woman who loves God will not give a damn what you look like only what is in your heart.

You are a good height, my son is 6' 4'' and super-skinny also, he is also extremely handsome (even if I do say so myself lol) so that issue is only in your mind, God doesn't make mistakes and to Him you are perfect and exactly as He intended - it's those who abuse you who have the problem. If your teeth are making you self-conscious then get them fixed. You are not unlovable, your wife married you so presumably she once found you attractive - God loves you unconditionally, the problem as I see it is all in your mind, brought about by the abuse.

Counselling is the answer but make sure it is Christian counselling you seek.
 
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I am the victim if domestic abuse. My wife is relentless, but I am torn. I want the abuse to end. The only way for that to happen is to leave her or divorce her. The only issue is if I do I can never remarry. Which means I must forever remain single. That would be very hard for me to do. I don't want to commit a sin by divorcing her or remarrying again if I do divorce her. It seems like to me certain exceptions should be made. However, God despises divorce. Yet He allows suffering to happen in marriages. I don't get it.
Why do you pick and choose which "Laws" you want to live under? You want it to be a sin to divorce and remarry, but you seem to ignore a "command" that came much earlier.... that you are to lead and rule your household.

You probably do that with all sorts of other "Laws" too, so don't get too upset. Just try to answer that first question for yourself. (And then do something about it.)
 
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HisHolly

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God is spirit not emotions.. cherry picking our parts to obey and neglect the rest will always leave us open to attack of any kind. When we sear ourselves to the truth we forget why we are where we are.. We are instructed to give no place to the devil.. repent, close his access and obey everything. Start quoting the Bible and stop speaking defeat. You have free will. You say it's over and what do you think will get better? Power is in you tongue, you confess and declare, decree with it.. what you say will be what is.. The enemy will come and sweet talk you into feeling sorry for yourself, but all you really have to do is stand up and say No we are children of the Most High, beloved of God, never forsaken, ect.. Faith is built by feeding on the truth.. Stop speaking negative, please.. build your spirit up to be stronger
 
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HisHolly

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Nothing to be embarrassed about bc the enemy will use whatever yields to him to get to us.. Rev says we overcome by the blood and the word of our testimony. Get under the blood by speaking it over your life..
 
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HisHolly

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Also ask God to send someone to labor over your wife. For many reasons we aren't always who they'll listen to.. You do have spiritual authority over the activities the enemy may try.. I suggest you get into learning your position in Christ. God does care but He won't do what you're to do..He gave you keys, use them
 
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HisHolly

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Please don't the "I suggest" to be an attitude, it's not. I really suggest it.
 

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I don't believe that God wants you to be subjective to continued domestic abuse. What God has joined together no one is to put asunder. The question is did God join the two of you together. Based on all your posts about your marriage I would not feel guilty by wanting to be free from physical and mental abuse and anguish by seeking divorce. Whether or not you would be permitted to be remarried one day is between you and God. I do know that God wants us to have life and to have it more abundantly. I pray that God provides clarity of thought for you and guide you on this depressing situation.
 

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Don't be embarrassed but insist you go to Christian counselling together. If your wife does not know Christ she needs to find Him who will change her heart.
If the man was abusing the woman, I don't think women would be telling the wife to suggest counseling to the abusive husband. Just saying.
 

Dan_473

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It seems as though I am an abuse magnet. Every relationship I ever had has had abuse in it. Plus my parents were abusive. I want to have a normal relationship. However, I feel because I have the desperate need to feel loved, accepted, and appreciated I tend to fall for any woman who shows me any affection. It's possible that in my haste to be with someone because I fear and dread the thought of being alone I attract women who love to abuse their men. Women who would treat their men right are most likely turned off because my desire to not be alone screams of desperation. I often wonder what is wrong with me. Sometimes I feel I am so ugly and unlovable. My self esteem is dangerously low and I feel I am not the least bit attractive looks wise or personality either. I am 6 foot 6 inches tall, super skinny practically skeletal, teeth messed up because of an accident, and a face only a mother could love. Plus I tend to suffer from pity parties, have bouts with extreme negative emotions to the point of feeling worthless and wondering why I should even go on, and thinking to myself no one in their right mind would want to date me. I mean look at me. I'm hideous and unlovable.

I know that God loves me and the negative mentality is the devil trying to destroy me. I am a severe broken mess. My thoughts are maybe I need to fix myself and if love is supposed to be in my future it will come if not learn to accept it and move on.
when I have negative feelings about myself, I try to say this

GENESIS 1:27 God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
 
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I liked Willie's response.

obviously your 'mock-marriage' is not one of God's Holy marriages, but pagan...
been there, done that!!!

seek Christian counseling and try and find fellowship with those who truly Love Jesus...
 

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Hey Roger long time no see:) It seems as if you misunderstanding the whole divorce thing and it being a sin or not. If your wife does nothing but lash out and verbally abuse you and has no love for you at all and isn't going to change that is a reasonable reason for divorce because she is being unfaithful by treating you like garbage and God doesn't want you to suffer in an abusive relationship in fear of sinning trust me I have personally seen un needed pain and suffering from abusive relationships specifically because they thought it was a sin to divorce.
 
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Well, where to start? How about at the root of the problem? Even if you do divorce her there is a very real chance that you will find somebody just like her, maybe worse and then you will be no further along, possibly further back. You say you are extremely skinny and depressed. Believe it or not part of your problem can be nutrition which is easily rectified. I'm not going to go to great lengths explaining it but if you are interested message me and we can get started. Other than that, apparently there is the likelihood that your parents have programmed your mind to think that you are no good and probably don't deserve any better than you have. Just like a computer our brains are programmable and also reprogrammable. "Be transformed by the renewing of your mind!" As a non-Christian we were shackled to the outer man, the body that is corruptible and condemned to death. Unless we are reborn to spiritual birth that is our understanding of what life is, to serve our flesh, all it desires. Once we are born anew we are released from this meaningless existence. Our eyes are opened and realize the flesh will never be satisfied, and to serve God because He, through Christ will raise us from death. Some people who are Christians are still living in the flesh unsatisfied because they have one foot on earth and the other in Heaven. They want to serve God but still hinder themselves because they want to live like the heathens. They desire sex and belongings and to be esteemed, and accepted by the world. Here is my point, finally. If you have accepted Christ as Lord and Saviour, then you have been set free. You don't have to stay in that relationship, in fact you don't need any relationship. No woman is going to make you feel whole, and valued and desired. As far as I have seen, most women have their own agenda and use men to fulfill their desires, like pawns. I'm not even kidding, I wish I was. In trade, they provide comfort and "love" but that's not really the proper design. Men and women were supposed to be teammates fulfilling God's mission for the man's life. They share the work and in the success of their mission. I know I'm going to get blasted for this but most women are more interested in the successes of their children and use their husbands to serve that purpose. As long as the man has his occasional sex, a hot meal and the remote control he's happy. Yes, this is a rant, and I hope all see it is righteous indignation, that men need to stand up and be men. We need to be the leaders and have a freaking plan, to serve God and not let women walk all over us. Don't be needy, be productive and confident and if a woman isn't interested in you, move on (unless she's super hot! I'm kidding). Disclaimer* I'm sure some women aren't as I've described....I just haven't met you yet.
 
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Anyone who thinks that God wants you to stay in a violent marriage is imho not correct. I know what the Bible says about divorce and I also know what it says about violence.
I firmly believe that God wants His children to be as safe as possible, never endangered.
Having a violent partner is worse than having a cheating husband, and I know for a fact that God will never judge anyone fleeing from an abusive relationship.

God is Love. Love does not abuse.