Happy Yom Kippur!

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KohenMatt

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Whether you're celebrating the day or not, I pray you all have a blessed Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement!)

This is a day to remember and celebrate the atoning work of our Savior and to acknowledge how absolutely unworthy we are to come into His presence on our own.

We're only able to do so because of His grace and mercy.
 
Amen, thank you brother Matt.

We sounded the shofar last night at dawn and will do so again tonight (if I remember :) )
 
KohenMatt said:
Whether you're celebrating the day or not, I pray you all have a blessed Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement!)

This is a day to remember and celebrate the atoning work of our Savior and to acknowledge how absolutely unworthy we are to come into His presence on our own.

We're only able to do so because of His grace and mercy.
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Happy Yom Kippur to you and to all.
 
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Yom Kippur is not a day to be happy. It's a day to afflict oneself; which
Webster's defines as causing distress so severely as to cause persistent
suffering and/or anguish. (Lev 16:29, 16;31, 23;27, and 23:32)

The penalty for failure to cause oneself persistent suffering and/or anguish is
cutting off. (Lev 23:29)

Why is Yom Kippur such a depressing day? Well; that's not too hard to figure
out.

There's a goat involved in Yom Kippur commonly called a scapegoat.
However, it's not really a scapegoat, in reality it's an escaping goat; viz: a
fugitive.

Every sin the people ever committed is ceremoniously placed on the goat
and it's then turned loose. Well; that right there is a very bad thing for Jews
because in order for their sins to be pardoned, it's necessary for the
sin-bearing goat to be put to death and burned on the Altar. So what? Well;
I'll tell you so what. It means that the people's sins go unpunished; viz; the
sins placed on the goat are still on the books hanging over the people's
heads like a sword of Damocles and one day will be brought to justice. Now
if that isn't reason enough to be depressed, then I give up.

Q: Why every sin the people ever committed?

A: Because there is not even one offering in the entire Levitical catalogue
that suffices to delete the people's sins. The only thing that those sacrifices
obtain for them is a reprieve; which is a temporary delay, not a permanent
fix. In other words: forgiveness in the Old Testament acquits no one; Old
Testament forgiveness merely puts justice on hold. (Ex 34:7, Rom 3:25-26,
Heb 10:1-4)

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Utah said:
Happy Easter!
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I was thinking of communion day, The day we eat and drink in remembrance of the death or Christ. or the atoning sacrifice.

ps, easter would be ressurection day, not atonement day or am I confused some more?? lol
 
WebersHome said:
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Yom Kippur is not a day to be happy. It's a day to afflict oneself; which
Webster's defines as causing distress so severely as to cause persistent
suffering and/or anguish. (Lev 16:29, 16;31, 23;27, and 23:32)
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It might start out as a solemn day, but for those of us who know where our atonement comes from and that we have been atoned for, it becomes a joyous celebration!
 
eternally-gratefull said:
I was thinking of communion day, The day we eat and drink in remembrance of the death or Christ. or the atoning sacrifice.

ps, easter would be ressurection day, not atonement day or am I confused some more?? lol
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Resurrection day is awesome. I encourage people to celebrate Easter (Resurrection Day) every day because Jesus IS risen, not WAS risen. :cool:
 
Utah said:
Resurrection day is awesome. I encourage people to celebrate Easter (Resurrection Day) every day because Jesus IS risen, not WAS risen. :cool:
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Amen,

Take eat, this is my body which was broken for you.

We should celebrate it as God commanded, Often.. Once a year is not enough.. We forget to easy (see Israel)
 
WebersHome said:
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Yom Kippur is not a day to be happy. It's a day to afflict oneself; which
Webster's defines as causing distress so severely as to cause persistent
suffering and/or anguish. (Lev 16:29, 16;31, 23;27, and 23:32)

The penalty for failure to cause oneself persistent suffering and/or anguish is
cutting off. (Lev 23:29)

Why is Yom Kippur such a depressing day? Well; that's not too hard to figure
out.

There's a goat involved in Yom Kippur commonly called a scapegoat.
However, it's not really a scapegoat, in reality it's an escaping goat; viz: a
fugitive.

Every sin the people ever committed is ceremoniously placed on the goat
and it's then turned loose. Well; that right there is a very bad thing for Jews
because in order for their sins to be pardoned, it's necessary for the
sin-bearing goat to be put to death and burned on the Altar. So what? Well;
I'll tell you so what. It means that the people's sins go unpunished; viz; the
sins placed on the goat are still on the books hanging over the people's
heads like a sword of Damocles and one day will be brought to justice. Now
if that isn't reason enough to be depressed, then I give up.

Q: Why every sin the people ever committed?

A: Because there is not even one offering in the entire Levitical catalogue
that suffices to delete the people's sins. The only thing that those sacrifices
obtain for them is a reprieve; which is a temporary delay, not a permanent
fix. In other words: forgiveness in the Old Testament acquits no one; Old
Testament forgiveness merely puts justice on hold. (Ex 34:7, Rom 3:25-26,
Heb 10:1-4)

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This just goes to prove what paul meant when he said the law was a tutor to lead us to Christ. The jews saw the sacrifice but missed the point of the scapegoat. So they did not see their need for a savior.

That was the purpose of the tradition laid out in the law. Christ came, the purpose of that teaching tool has been fulfilled for those who have found Christ.

now. we are no longer under a tutor.
 
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KohenMatt said:
It might start out as a solemn day, but for those of us who know where our
atonement comes from and that we have been atoned for, it becomes a
joyous celebration!
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It is both illegal and curse-worthy for Jews to be joyous at any time during
Yom Kippur.

● Lev 23:29 . . For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that
same day, he shall be cut off from among his people

● Deut 4:2 …You shall not add anything to what I command you or take
anything away from it, but keep the commandments of the Lord your God
that I enjoin upon you.

● Deut 5:29-30 …Be careful, then, to do as the Lord your God has
commanded you. Do not turn aside to the right or to the left: follow only the
path that the Lord your God has enjoined upon you

● Deut 27:26 . . Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of this
law by carrying them out.

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how cruel some can be...

to even infer that the thousands who are loving and doing what they feel is the right
thing to do to Honor their Lord and Saviour, yes, we all only have The One, to try and
make their heart-felt gestures and rituals of no consequence, we have to wonder,
what kind of a spirit would desire to do such a thing?
 
I heard the testimony of a real Messianic Jew when I was first saved. It was very profound, and what Weber's home is saying is absolutely true.


This woman grew up Jewish, and Yom Kippur was "the day I always dreaded." I have a Jewish friend and she always asked for luck that God would accept her offering on Yom Kippur. She was always terrified she wouldn't be accepted by God for another year, and of course if she died, she thought that would be curtains for her.

Yom Kippur was never a day to be "happy" as the title suggests! It was the DAY OF ATONEMENT! The day when the sacrifice for sin was made. In the Old Testament that was in the temple, and since 70 AD, in the synagogue. If the sacrifice was not accepted, it was a long year for the people and individuals.

Praise God, we have the perfect sacrifice for sin!

"For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified." Hebrews 10:14

"Therefore, brothers,since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus,20 by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh,21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God," Hebrews 10:19

Wow! I should just copy and paste all of Hebrews 10 - it really sums up the case against keeping Yom Kippur. Why keep a celebration which is not longer valid?
 
Angela53510 said:
Why keep a celebration which is not longer valid?
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It's a reminder of what an amazing work God has done. Similar motivation with those who celebrate christmas and easter. Yom Kippur isn't about doing or obtaining something. It's about remembering what has already been done for us.
 
I find the thought of not being able to celebrate on Yom Kippur funny.


  • When we realize how sinful we are in the flesh, we recognize how much we need atonement. Sad thought.
  • Then we realize that an atonement was already made! Happy thought! No, no. we can't be happy. We have to afflict.
  • Jesus is our atoning sacrifice! Happy thought! No, no. we can't be happy. We have to afflict.
  • Jesus, you've saved me and shown me mercy and grace and love! Happy thought! No, no. we can't be happy. We have to afflict.

24 hours and 1 second after Yom Kippur we're allowed to be happy about all of this. But not 23 hours and 55 seconds in Yom Kippur. We have to afflict.:confused:
 
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